7 reasons to support George W. Bush

There's a difference between having a different view on something because the facts support an alternate belief (ex: Person A votes for Obama because he supports universal health care while Person B votes against him since Obama supports the patriot act) and having a different view on something because your facts are wrong (ex: "Bush is supported by more than 50% of Americans so he's doing a good job"....when in reality its more around 30-40%...)or peripheral facts are being withheld (ex: "Bush didn't do anything illegal"...when in reality that's only because he changed the law so that none of his actions were illegal).

Supporters of Bush always seem to fall into the last two categories (I must admit there are a few that are in the first category and just don't mind being spied on illegally, don't mind our troops being killed senselessly since they're not the ones dying, don't have a problem with our school system because they aren't in school and neither are their kids, etc).

I've seen a lot of real facts from the Bush haters...The supporters have yet to show any...All they've shown was "Well one thing he did wasn't quite as bad as what another President did before I was born"...That's pathetic. I'm not being a dick. I honestly want to hear some facts of what Bush has done that makes him "not so bad." Considering all the negativity he's brought, he must have done something absolutely fantastic to make him not so bad right? The closest thing I've heard to a fact from a Bush supporter on this thread was "The war is legal"...well...that's not exactly true, and even if it was that wouldn't make it a good thing....

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Originally Posted by the image reaper

most importantly, President Bush has moved the 'Theater of Operations', (war-zone), from downtown New York City, to downtown Baghdad ... war is truly 'hell', and it's best to have 'hell' situated elsewhere, whenever possible ... :smokin:

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I really hope you don't truly think that.

A war-zone..in NYC? not quite. This is the same misunderstanding of war that our entire nation needs to be held accountable for. If every citizen in our country truly understood what it meant for their country to "be at war" then we would never have let this go on for as long as it has with so many lives lost and families destroyed. I won't even get into the more materialistic downfalls such as the billions upon billions of dollars spent that could completelyyy resolve hunger and education in the US. I really wish someone had read my post earlier.. 9/11 was not this malicious attack waged by blood thirsty islamic radicals for no other reason than to see the 'civilized white people society suffer' as the media would like you to believe. It was retalliation!!!! We STARTED this and in my opinion it could have been far worse and 9/11 was just their first virgin trial. Do you honestly think an attack as elaborate as this is the brainfart of Osama bin Laden who just simply had nothing better to do? It is however the culmination and result of terrible foreign policy on part of the US. If maybe we respected the cultures and ideals of others outside our own border we would know that we should just probably maybe at our leisure get our fucking military bases and oil interests the fuck off islamic holy land. Yeah, put a military base in the Vatican and see what happens.. and that is by NO means an exaggeration of the analogy because it is unfair to undermine what is valued by one culture over another.

I seem to remember a far worse act of retalliation..say um maybe dropping two nukes on two innocent cities? Yeah you don't see Japan still in our face about that shit...

Politicians wake up! Respect other nations and cultures in this world and learn from your goddamn fucking mistakes..

and stay high.

Okay heres a few, the second admendment. He's never wavered on that. And to me, thats one of the main reasons I call myself a republican.

He also didnt cave in to all that socialized medicine crap. Which I happen to disagree with greatly.

He also kept taxes low and our dow jones and such is the highest its ever been.

^Oh and Japan was NOT a mistake. Thats the smartest shit the U.S. has ever done when it comes to war. Hell, I think we should have gone Patton on Europes ass and took everything. Then go to China and Russia too. Enough of this U.N. crap. Joining the U.N. was one of the worst mistakes we ever did.

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Originally Posted by rebgirl420

He also kept taxes low and our dow jones and such is the highest its ever been.

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Do you really think those two very vague and pretty much meaningless statements are in any way reasonable indicators of the state of our economy? You'd have to dig deep back into the Clinton years to find out what true success can be measured in.. a BALANCED budget. You won't here talk of one of those probably in our lifetime as a result of what we have done in Iraq under the Bush administration

Stay high.

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Originally Posted by rebgirl420

^Oh and Japan was NOT a mistake. Thats the smartest shit the U.S. has ever done when it comes to war. Hell, I think we should have gone Patton on Europes ass and took everything. Then go to China and Russia too. Enough of this U.N. crap. Joining the U.N. was one of the worst mistakes we ever did.

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Is that what your are goin to teach your students?! My jaw is really on the floor right now. Find me a history teacher on any planet anywhere else to condone an act of war. You would have been better off you use the word "justified" however you would not been able to argue that. To say that the killing of any single person or group of people for any reason is "smart shit" well you're just absolutely outta your mind. I can name you 129uG23.4 treaties that were "smarter" acts when "it comes to war."

Somehow as a history teacher you weren't able to pick up on the concept of warfare. You have no idea what it means to be out in the middle of nowhere with a lethal weapon and thousands of people roaming around trying to kill you... and for what? That post was disgusting and I'm really sorry about how I'm starting to come off but at this point I don't care.

And you're right we should have NEVER joined the UN (originally League of Nations) even though we started it.. you really just don't know what you're talkin about do you?

Stay high.
Stay high.

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Originally Posted by rebgirl420

Hell, I think we should have gone Patton on Europes ass and took everything.

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This explains a lot...

But really, you honestly think Bush is ok because he's never waivered on the second amendment (the right to bear arms was taken away from the people of New Orleans after Katrina, by the way...People refused to admit that until fairly recently for some reason)? He never slapped my mom in the face with his testacles either, but I hate him because of the things he actually did rather than approve of him for all the things he didn't do. I was hoping for too much from you as a supporter...Like I was expecting an epiphany that would make me accept the fact he wiped his ass with the constitution (only a little corn got on the 2nd amendment though, I guess).

So are you saying you fit into the last group (see my last post. 2nd paragraph)?

On another note, we do agree that the right to bear arms is a necessary right and we seem to agree that the UN should be abolished/never been made in the first place (In my opinion, along with the CIA and a whole slew of other government-oriented/run organizations).

Well its not always pretty but its the truth. Sure, no one SHOULD have to die in any act of war. War is a horrible, horrible thing. I know this, my brother is a sergent of infantry in Iraq as we speak and my father and my grandfather were both in the service too.

It's just that the world isnt perfect and nice. Its a dog eat dog world out there and peace doesnt work unless EVERYONE is doing it and our competators would slit our throats the minute we even showed weakness for a second.

And no, im not teaching my future students my views or your views for that matter. They will be taught from the book and the things that go with that. A pretty unbiased view of the world and its history. Let them decide when they have all that info themse;ves when they become older.

durr heehe bu$$h sux

man those kind of anti bush people are almost as stupid as the people who still support him

And hun, dont group me in with a crazy Bush supporter, im not really a "republican". I just have some republican-ish views. I really fall into the libertarian thing.

And yeah I bet we agree on a bunch of shit non Bush related. Like I dunno, religion maybe and gay rights and pro choice matters.