ASD soaking did seem to help but it did not cure the problem. I'm still having to adjust ph several times a day but at this point in time they are only in Ro water and a drop of superthrive.....(I did it....I managed to get one drop in there.....no more....no less.....twice....:D) and this set of seedlings seems to be doing very well (cross fingers..) The rise in ph is less dramatic and slower to occur i think in the soaked hydroton. Tomorrow I'm going to start them on some baby nutes so we'll see what happens with some nutes in the mix. :)