i agree with you because even though we're waiting longer it'll be just that much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melkane
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i agree with you because even though we're waiting longer it'll be just that much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melkane
link or bs.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeKo
and fuck that.... if xbox people weren't whining for it, yal wouldn't get it late...
until GTAIV, it was a PS EXCLUSIVE (except for pc port)
now i gotta wait another half a year because everyone's to cheap to buy a ps3?
i'm pissed... one way or another... but i want to make sure to direct my anger in the right direction... like i said, if i find out it's true... ti's not the first tiem i've heard it...
btw, "one thing im wondering about is why ps3 is a few weeks behind?" could EASILY mean that they don't need to work on it as much... they haven't failed yet at putting it out on time... it's a bit of acoincidence when xbox gets it suddenly there's a half year delay....
also factoring in 360 is running at near full capacity (look it up yourself, i'm done arguing over it i've seen the facts) while ps3 is using far less then half it's power...
The older 2D GTA games started on the PS but were ported over to other systems, so they weren't exclusive. And Well III, VC and SA were TIMED exclusives and were released on the Xbox later down the road. Hell before Sony dealt with Rockstar on that issue GTAIII was originally planned for the Dreamcast. The reason it was a timed exclusive was because SONY had a contract with Rockstar to keep it exclusive for such a time frame, otherwise it would have went to Xbox and PC sooner than it did, bank on it.
This time before Sony could get their little greedy contract claws into Rockstar again, MS stepped up and made a deal with Rockstar to not only get GTAIV the same time as Sony but to have 2 Exclusive Episodes of their very own.
You get all pissed off because MS made a deal with Rockstar even though Sony did same thing last generation. It's a bit of a double standard.
no actually... unti li'm told otherwise MS is the reason i'm having to wait another half a year when i've been waiting so long already.... and i've got every right to bitch and complain actually... cuz if it was opposite... if it was ready for 360 but ps3 was holding it up there'd be people bitching about us.
and if yal get extra content what's the big fucking deal anyways... we get it first, you get extra shit.... EVEN.
All you have to do is look at his other articles, hes just out to get xbox. He doesn't link any source, hes just spewing it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho
you can't just believe everything you read, this guy doesn't even look like a credible source at all. How would Microsoft even ban the Playstation release? It just doesn't make sense, the reality is that they probably just underestimated the work that needed to be done and it got delayed like more than half of all games released.
do you really have any idea how the legal relationship works between console producers, and game developers? there is always a legal agreement...Quote:
Originally Posted by JeKo
and it's very plausible microsoft got a legal agreement that ps3 woudln't be released when 360 wasn't ready yet...
anyways, i'm pissed overall at the delay... like i said IF i find out it's true... then that anger will be target at xbox.... i've already read take two's offical statement, but it didn't really say ANYTHING.... it wouldn't confirm or deny the rumor one console is holding the other, and they wouldn't even state what 'challenges' (they said specificly there is no problem, only a challenge :wtf: well wtf, sounds like a problem to me.....) they are facing that pushed the release date back..
you should probably ignore alot fo what i say atm... i'm talking through speculation.... whether it's 360's fault or not i can't know as of right now... but reguardless of fault, i'm still highly pissed.... it's just a matter of who that anger needs to be directed at....
its not true....Quote:
Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho
Rockstar Dismisses Talk of GTA IV Delay
[align=center]Rockstar Dismisses Talk of GTA IV Delay
Two of of the biggest games due in 2007 are Halo 3 and Grand Theft Auto IV. As luck would have it, they're coming out within a couple weeks of one another - despite what you may have heard to the contrary.
Rumours prompted by an analyst note had it that Rockstar could delay Grand Theft Auto IV until November, but the company has come out today to deny the claims.
We contacted the company for comment and were told that the game is on track for release in "late October".
Grand Theft Auto fans have had October circled as the date for the arrival of the first Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 instalment since last year. Microsoft surprised many people by revealing in May that Halo 3 would be out in late September. According to one analyst, that could be a problem.
In a note to investors, relayed in part by GameDaily, analyst Michael Pachter speculated that troubled Rockstar parent company Take 2 could push back the release of Grand Theft Auto IV into its next financial year, which begins in November.
"We believe that a two-week delay would provide a reasonable gap between the launch of Halo 3 and the launch of GTA IV, and would actually help sales of both games," he wrote.
Rockstar's comments will come as sweet relief to GTA fans anxious to play the first game in the series for Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3.
According to previously confirmed dates, Grand Theft Auto IV will be out in the US on 16 October and in Europe on 19 October. For more on the game, head to our Grand Theft Auto IV coverage homepage.[/align]
'sides, even if it WAS true, the moron at the game place said you could get your money back
ignore everything in this post :mad: just looked at other sites that confirm the setback...then went back to my "source" and realized it wasn't a recent one...gdit...ok i reaaaaaaaaally think you should go get your money back from 'em. :mad: :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by BabySnookums
Excellence shall arive with patience.
fucking hell, i hope everyone that bought a 360 is happy with the retards who made your console that isnt capable of jackshit.
360 not as good as PS3
How does this have ANYTHING to do with 360 Developers? Zero.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluntblaze
Hell considering how likely fake that UK blog article is, technically we have no clue what the reasons were that caused the delay. Seriously it doesn't make sense. All the articles before have stated that PS3 Version was behind in production by a few weeks over the 360 version. All the trailers shown have been from the 360 version. I find it highly doubtful the 360 version is to blame.
As far as you know it could very well be the PS3 version that's causing the delay. It may not even be any consoles, I find it funny that the delay was moved to a different "fiscal" year which makes me wonder if the delay was on Rockstar for financial reasons. I mean look at all the great games being released this fall anyways. GTAIV will sell MUCH better if it comes out during a dry spell. This could be a Rockstar ploy to increase sales.
I was pissed when I first heard the news as I have a preorder on it and it was the only game I was giddy for this fall. But regardless whos to blame for the delay this will give more time for testing and any additions they may want to add. So all in all it's a bummer now, but potentially great thing in the long run. I'd rather wait a few extra months and have a more polished game than get it October and have some stupid ass glitch like the Xbox Vice City Pedestrian Glitch or something like that.
i looked on the gta forums to try and find a few reasons why its been delayed and found a few possible things.
1: UK Rebellion.com: Xbox 360 problems delay GTA IV. Microsoft bans Playstation 3 release.
2: IGN: Grand Theft Auto IV Delayed
3: this one doesnt really say much. Rockstar Games: Grand Theft Auto IV Delayed To 2008 - Kotaku
i know.. id just found out about the delay and was VERY pissed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melkane
i did read somewhere that it could be the ps3.... two sony guy went to rockstar not too long ago and showed them that differant parts in the console they could use to make the game even better.
which if you ask me sounds like a more logical explanation... because it doesn't take six months to polish a game.
either way and for whatever reason the games not coming almost another year. so if it was because of sony im still pissed even if the game is better.
and another thing.... the game better be FUCKING PERFECT.
oh wait nevermind. well now all we have to look forward to is some more trailers and gameplay video lol.
lol? i already know the delay is true.... what i meant when i said 'if i find out this is true' was "if i find out it's the 360's fault for the delay"Quote:
Originally Posted by BabySnookums
i'm still fucking pissed about it :mad: and i won't get over it... i bought my ps3 majorly to get GTAIV (when SA came out i had to go buy a ps2 as well...) and it was like 2 months away! 2 fucking months! then they go and change the release date now it's like 8 months a-fucking-way! goddamnit... that means i'll of been waiting for this game for over a year by the time i get it... the thing that pisses me off more is the fact that this is the only game i have ever cared about to this extent... any other game i can wait til it comes out and i don't get mad when it gets pushed back....
and melkane... like i said earlier, just becuase the ps3 version is behind doesn't mean (if a console was responsible) that it's the reason for the delay.. it could very well easily mean the 360 is still the reason for the delay, and they're having a hard time working with the 360... so they have to concentrate on it more therefore, putting the ps3 on the back burners for the time being.
i also think rockstar should fucking tell us plainly and clearly what the cause of the delay is.... they're being so evasive and it's causing alot of uproar, especially between 360 and ps3 owners... everyone's blaming the other (for the most part) i believe we have a right to know what's going on in full detail
See no one truly knows...
PlayStation 3 responsible for GTA IV delay, surmises Pachter - Joystiq
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First up to bat is video game analyst extraordinaire, Michael Pachter who told our pals at GameDaily BIZ, "We think it is likely that the Rockstar team had difficulty in building an exceptionally complicated game for the PS3, and failed to recognize how far away from completion the game truly was until recently." Of course, he means really recently, since Take-Two did just reaffirm their plans to ship the game in October as recently as E3 (yeah, the one last month).
We know what you're thinking: Why not release the game for Xbox 360 in ought seven, and ship the PS3 release whenever it's ready (everyone else seems to be taking this course of action)? Pachter further surmises "that Take-Two had a contractual commitment to Sony that it would not favor competitor Microsoft by launching the Xbox 360 version of GTA IV prior to launching the PS3 version," calling it "the only plausible explanation."
that's the exact same (but opposite) thing i read on the playstation forums....Quote:
Originally Posted by Melkane
anyways i feel the need to keep reiterating what i said... regaurdless i'm pissed... i'm only going to 'take it out on 360' so to speak if rockstar or take two flat out say, on their offical site it's 360/microsoft's fault.
last night i was more pissed tho... o.0 so if it seemed i full heartedly believed what i posted, i didn't... infact i did say if i find out this is true ...
Sony: GTA IV Wonâ??t "Make or Break" PS3 : Next Generation - Interactive Entertainment Today, Video Game and Industry News
Actually looking at the fall lineup for PS3, the big game they were relying on was GTAIV. They have no giant release this fall, so this is a huge hit to them, despite their PR. Meanwhile 360 still has a list of big name titles to fall back on.
i wanna know wtf is going on.. i mean come on!! the game was almost finished.
tbh i dont care if any console is responsible.. either way its still gonna be delayed.
2 FUCKING MONTHS AWAY NOW THIS BULLSHIT,,. COME ON ROCKSTAR ... GOD DAMN !!!! .
excuse my french but im soooo fucking pissed off.
next fucking year!?!?! aaaahhhggggrrrrr
i won't even try to deny that.... alot of titles on ps3 this year aren't 'great' (there are a couple good ones tho.... heavenly sword, ninja gaiden sigma is ok... haze will be fucking great tho)Quote:
Originally Posted by Melkane
most the good games that are going to make ps3 will be out by mid 2008... there are alot of great games coming out by then (most coming out in january-march 2008)
damn i think we all need to sit down for a second and smoke a bowl or 2 or 3 or a bunch so we can chill out lol. i'm not happy about it either but there's nothing we can do so we'll all just have to be patient.
i wish i could smoke a bowl rite now. i really do.:(Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterGreen
Yeah, It doesn't really matter why the hell it's delayed the point is,IT'S BEEN DELAYED
It's not a bittersweet situation either, it's not like Rockstar is adding better and/or more features. They just have to finish what they already promised us. This never would have happened if who ever is responsible had their shit together.
yeh... it doesn't take that long to polish a game.. so they mustve encountered a pretty big problem. even if they have i dont care.. it better not have any gliches even in the slightest.
nope! read the articles.... they have no problems.... THEY HAVE CHALLENGES! :wtf: (if you can't tell the sarcasm dripping from this post, slap yourself please)Quote:
Originally Posted by bluntblaze
Word. I don't wanna be running through every fucking wall possible again. This better be top notch.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluntblaze
still dunno how you get that when about 33% of all 360's (including the elite model) fail, and less than 1% of ps3's or wii's have critical failures.... not to mention it's been shown the ps3 holds more power then 360....Quote:
Originally Posted by Billionfold
It's because Sony products and dealings with them also come with a undisclosed broom handle and jar of vasoline. I've been on the end of that shtick before and don't plan on it again. Microsoft has put everything face up on the table and they are fixing their problems, unlike Sonys denial with their high % breakdowns of early model PS2s. New 360s will not have 30% breakdown probability and if yours is an older one and does breaks down you can send it in and get it repaired for free for the next 3 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho
Again nothing the PS3 has shown has been only marginally better than the 360 and of course not even extra disc space can suddenly make the game good. Look at the response Lair is getting, that game is a steaming pile lol.
li ke i said in the other thread i agree with you on lair... it had high hopes but now alot of people are starting to lose faith in it....
but that's not because of ps3, that's because of the devs, just like the 360 didn't make gears of war great, the devs did..
anyone who holds games against a system obviously doesn't belong in the debate (and i'm not refering to you) as the game is only as good as the dev makes it.
and also like i said, i never personaly had any problem with the ps2's and i've owned three now, none from them breaking down tho :p but i don't say that and mean it's impossible....
personally th eonly reason i feel microsoft finally decided to admit to it was because if they kept denying it, it WOULD have been the end of their gaming cut.... i remember watching th enews and hearing the stories when the 360's first released right before christmas... the day they had mass returns microsoft said basicly you're all shit out of luck.... the next day they issued a new statement saying they would take care of the problem...
if you look hard enough you can find it, i garuntee what i say tho, and it did happen, the statement was just retracted pretty quick because of all the negative attention they were getting
i still see it this way tho... if i'm spending hundreds on a system i expect it to work... i don't want to have to send it off to have it fixed, free or not, i want to be able to play it until it's been worn down from years of use or a newer system comes out...
xbox's also have a wide range of errors and shit.. my brother and nearly everyone of my friends had problems with the original ones too...
to me, that's more than enough to make me not go for it... some of the games on xbox are great, but the games aren't great enough to make me go deal with a shotty system.... you have a 1 in 3 chance of getting your system and having to part with it for atleast two weeks for microsoft to fix a problem thta shouldn't have been there in the first place...
it's also true that it's expected of any mass produced item to hav eproblems... but 33% is too high for me.... much too high..
dude wtf... sony let u down by ur ps2 buggering up.. 360s are doing the same and ur happy? fair enough you can get it repaired for free but theyve still let u down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melkane
ps. i know this is out of topic but can 360s browse the internet?
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Originally Posted by bluntblaze
This isn't the topic for this but, it was not one but 3 PS2s that were "buggering up" and it was Sony's attitude about it and it was other broken promises they made last gen. It was more than simply bad hardware.
Microsoft came out fairly quickly (compared to Sony) not only that they are going out of their way to remedy the situation. You can't expect them to recall 10 Million 360s for replacement or fixing. I think their way of handling the situation is very good.
Oh and seeing as how many Sony fanboys have pretended there never was a problem with the PS2 and even so much as called those of us that did liars or console mistreaters just because they themselves never actually experienced an issue with the PS2. You know things like "I've had my PS2 since 1745 BC and it's never given me any problems so you must be doing something" So since my 360 is still running why should I get all bitter at MS?
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Originally Posted by Melkane
i never said you mistreat it just becuase mine didn't break... anything can break, anything can be defective... but me personally i have owned 3 ps2's and never any problem... my brother took the first one after i got locked up, i sold the next one cuz at the time all we were doing was partying and i only had one game for it anyways so it didn't really get messed with, then when gta:sa came out i got the new slim model ps2... still have it sitting up in the attic.
the year is far from over and did you miss the two threads i made... about 360 taking a 61% fall and ps3 climbing 130%?Quote:
Originally Posted by Billionfold
proof right there it's far from over....
jeezo, you still going on about that..:wtf: lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Billionfold
It's gonna be wii, xbox360, ps3. I gotta admit, I didn't see the wii coming.
oh my god, the delay turned this thread into a console war thread :(
that sucks more then the delay does... :S
but the delay really sucks, i was so pissed off about it i lost the will to surf (lol the net i mean :P) but now after a few ounces of some nice weed i have remedied the situation itno bliss,
i dont care, ill play assasins creed and darkness and ninja gaiden and be happy :D :D as happy as gta could have ever made me even happier :D :D
fuck gta! i dont need it....
:microwave:
nah but seriosuly... i reckon e wont have no news about it till like christmas...:S
and if they still stick to the 3 traielr rule then i will topple over from anger (at rockstar) to hate (ing rockstar)
.... anyway now to get back on topic.
PS3 RULES!!! XBOX IS RUBISH!!! WOOT WOOT!!! SONY!!!
lolQuote:
Wii is good.
i feel like wii is the neutaral party in the console war :P
ps:or shoudl that be denial :PQuote:
but now after a few ounces of some nice weed i have remedied the situation itno bliss,
xbox is a legend, i PERSONALLY think it kicks playstation hands down. for a start the sixaxis is shite and a blatent added bonus to try and under cut the wii and has no rumble. blu ray well that is debated technology and could quite easily go the way of beta max.but the main thing that xbox have that works amazingly well is their online features. the whole system and the way it is implemented kicks sonys ass. i just like the way that microsoft implicates things.
but its a debate no side has a winner, sales are an inaccurate representation of a consoles greatness. it just means less people bought it, not that it is inferior.
the fact that there are 3 different consoles is healthy, it keeps prices at a 'ahem' minimum and keeps up competition.
the world would be boring if we all went out and bought a ps3 or an xbox.
but the one thing i really fucking hate is fanboys. damn they are gay as fuck. go out, get laid once in a while
you will realise non of this actually matters
anyway gta rules. i have an interview for rockstar north to beta test gta iv, its in glasglow though !?!
ah the beautiful country that is Scotland.,
whats a beta test?