Legalize it with the same restrictions, laws, and regulations as alcohol
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Legalize it with the same restrictions, laws, and regulations as alcohol
legalize....psshhhh...it should have NEVER been illegal to begin with. Why would the gov't legalize a product that would put so MANY political sponsors out of business..(pharmaceuticals, paper companies, renewable fuels etc. etc.) ......Legalize, then what, tax baby cakes...they'd be be taxing that shiii* so much it prolly make our heads spin. They'd prolly obtain all rights to grow it, then spray it with all their bud boosting chemicals, b/c then they'd be making $$ off it, so THEN it will be ok, pshhhh
lol, rant rant rant
but, yes i think it should be legal if we can still obtain the right to grow it ourselves.
could you imagine all the additives if the gov't grew all the cannabis
Who on this site would vote for it to be illegal. Of course it should be legal, there is nothing wrong with it and as another poster said before this one, It should have never been made illegal in the first place. This is a no brainer.
Just because you've never known anyone who has, doesn't mean nobody has. And for the record, a lot of the people on this website are already growing cannabis... illegally. Imagine how much more a lot of the people here would grow if it was legal to grow, and legal to use for any reason?Quote:
Originally Posted by ice#1
I actually thought about growing my own tobacco at one point. I probably should have, but I didn't.
I just want to know who are thoes 73 people who said NO. I know every one has ther own views on everything. That is cool so let me experss mine. Thoes 73 people suck and they need to role one up and just chill the hell out.
Cannabis should definatley be legalized, if there going to lower the drinking age (america)
Who is to tell you what you can and can't do?
Answer:Nobody.
If there were no restrictions you would have less youngsters smoking 'cause they wouldn't get as excited about it.:jointsmile:
Legalize it, yes! If it were legal then it would make it more acceptable to grow your own. Take big corporations out of the picture. It's really not a hard plant to cultivate.
I'm not as think as you stoned I am!
They couldn't tax it to above black market value, if they did the black market would flourish. More grey money floating around.Quote:
Originally Posted by thoughtwriter
Enjoy
FlyByNite
Legalize it with the same laws, restrictions, taxes, and regulations as alcohol.
Figure that the tobacco companies already have the fields, packaging, marketing all wrapped up. It might cost them a buck and a quarter to make a pack of joints, and with the same taxes on them as alcohol, figure on $20 per pack.
It will not effect growing for personal use.... consider that you can make your own beer, wine, booze, etc for *PERSONAL USE*, but not for sale. Moon shiners only get busted because they sell the stuff and it doesn't have a tax stamp on it.
Either way, as soon as its legalized, the black market will be out of business. Do a little homework on prohibition.....just as soon as alcohol was legalized again, the speakeasies and mob control of alcohol went out the window...... Remember that Al Capone went to prison for tax evasion, not alcohol distribution or anything else.
Does this vote really count for anything?
I vote for it to be legalized.
:thumbsup:
Hehe, you are correct on that. Taxing it like crazy would be counter-productive for the companies selling it. People would just end up growing it to evade the tax. It would be taxed, yes, everyone knows this. But like FlyByNite said, they couldn't tax it to or above the black market value... the legitimate market just doesn't work that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyByNite
SOMEBODY PLEASE CREATE THIS POLL (cos i cant):
(THIS IS FOR GUYS MOSTLY)Your sitting in your bedroom and your parents burst in the door with your granny. Would u rather be caught
(a) Masturbating in full view of them and your just about to.....
(b) Having a syringe in your arm
(c) Kissing a guy
ye but u have to understand that some people develop psychosis, schizophrenia, depression etc. and lets be honest when ur baked all u want to do is the stuff u enjoy, so if ur a kid and your going through school your obviously going to learn less cos your too busy enjoyin yourself: skippin school with your buds is obviously more fun than sitting in math class baked off your face daydreaming about random stuff. in otherwards it affects your motivation towards the shitty stuff that u have to do in life . What im tryin to say is for a lot of people in certainn lifestyles its AOK and there's no harm in it but for others, they should just smoke when their lifestyle is less hectic.
Since this is a very Debatable Topic, I'll make it short and sweet.
IMHO. I think if I were given the chance to smoke weed I probably wouldn't have done it. Just like cigarettes and Alcohol. They have always been there to buy and use, except for not being 21...MY question is, how many people In Canada are addicted to Marijuana compared to the people Addicted to Cigarettes, alcohol, and Hard core drugs, i.e. meth, cocaine, heroine,etc...
I think if anything should be illegal it should be alcohol. Its the most abused substance known to man, has the most deadly withdrawals, very addicting, and has more recorded deaths and OD's then any other drug. Marijuana on the other hand has no recorded OD's and zero deaths from withdrawals(lol weed withdrawals..). Anyways I am very high and my point was lost...Rant over.
~ CC
Well, alcohol was illegal at one point, at least in the US. No substance should be illegal, not alcohol or tobacco, or even meth! If meth was legalized, at least it wouldn't be as tainted with household chemicals. It would most likely be produced in a professional scientific lab, not using a bunch of household cleaning supplies and lame shit like that. Not that meth or any amphetamine is good for you, they're pretty bad. Then again, the pharmaceutical companies have no problem giving kids amphetamines for their ADD (ritalin, adderall).Quote:
Originally Posted by CannabisCarl2134
Okay.....Hell No on " Even Meth should be Legal." Are you kidding? I think nothing above Marijuana should be Legal. What I am trying to say is. There are numerous ways that you can "Class" drugs or "Rate/Scale" Drugs, and what is a Drug?
[Drug],-Noun, Verb, Drugged/Drug-ging
noun
1. Pharmacology. a chemical substance used in the treatment, cure, prevention, or diagnosis of disease or used to otherwise enhance physical or mental well-being.
A Substanced used in Treatment, Cure, Prevention, Or Diagnosis of Disease...
So How does Meth do this? Thats how I look at drugs, or doing drugs.
Marijuana on the other is used, and proven to Haven Cured, Prevented, maybe not diagnosed, but is alot less hardcore as meth and Doesn't kill you and or Turn you into
"Skeletor!"
So ya Maybe Just have like Cigarettes, Alcohol, Marijuana be legal and call it good??
~ Super highhhhhh
The only information I have ever found as to why marijuana is illegal dates back to the mid-1930s and involves the possible loss of profit from softwood sales by William Hearst, as cannibis was found to produce more paper pulp per acre than his forest lands. I also found comments that a congressional committee lied to Congress about a report submitted by the AMA. Hearst 'demonized' the drug by blaming its presence on Mexicans, whom he hated, and making comments like, "when coloreds smoke Marijuana, it makes them think they are as good as white people." Dupont played a part in this as hemp ropes would outsell their new nylon ropes (as hemp was a superior rope), so they had to get rid of it to increase their sales and profits. Names such as Anslinger and Mellon come to mind. Please do your own research.
As far as age limits, I think the age of adulthood should be 19, as this gets just about everyone out of high school. At this point, they become full adults. I have always thought it strange that I could die for my country at 18, but could not buy a drink.
I do not smoke now, but did in the early 1970s. If it were legal, I doubt I would smoke it, and in countries where it is legal, the average user quits in his mid-30s. This is documented. In spite of this, I think our country spends way to much of the taxpayers money fighting this innocuous drug.
who in there right mind would say no to this *toke*
of course it should be legalized..
Right, but that's your opinion. Why shouldn't most, if not all drugs, be legal to possess? Why should the government have the power to uphold this "war on drugs" which have had many unintended and unforseen consequences on society as a whole.Quote:
Originally Posted by CannabisCarl2134
Why should the government have the power to tell you what you can and cannot put into your body? You can pump your body full of legal, addictive toxins, but not drugs, because they're illegal. That's the logic behind it nowadays: because they're illegal.
Methamphetamine and any drug in the amphetamine family does have medical benefits, which can include abolishing the symptoms of attention deficit disorder for a short period of time. I am not condoning the use of these drugs, as I know that they are physiologically and psychologically damaging if used incorrectly. Amphetamines are sold to kids for ADD... the pharmaceutical industry has been experimenting with amphetamines for years. But I guess you want to liberate one group of people, and leave the others oppressed, right? Marijuana users should be able to use it, but other people shouldn't be able to enjoy their drug of choice, for whatever reason it may be? Of course meth is harmful if used incorrectly, as most, if not all, drugs are in some way.
The drawback of freedom is that people are responsible for their own decisions. And I guess I would not say that is a drawback - perhaps it could allow people to learn from their mistakes better.
Legalizing drugs could only do good, I don't see why you think it wouldn't. For instance, if crack was legalized tomorrow, would you ever do it? I know I wouldn't, and I know that most people I know wouldn't. If somebody wants to smoke crack in the safety of their own home without worrying about some drug dealer messing with it, then why shouldn't they be able to? Does it affect you directly, or even indirectly? My point is, I think it's pretty obvious that people who don't do hard drugs wouldn't start doing them if they were legalized. Heck, they're easy enough to get as it is. Here it's easier to get crack and heroin than to get good weed - yet, most of our city is full of potheads. You see, keeping these illegal means there's still no regulation. Don't you think it would be safer for drugs to be regulated than not to be?
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All drugs should be legal. Its a breach of basic human rights not to. So long as you are not harming anyone else you should have the freedom to consume anything within the privacy of your own home.
If you take harmful drugs and are damaged or die from it then too bad, we lost an idiot, more air for the rest of us. Its not illegal to jump off a cliff. Also if drugs are legal then at least the drugs will be clean, and we will have more money to educate people about the dangers of harder, deadly drugs like alcohol and tobacco.
I'm sure this has been said before, but no it should not be legalized. If weed became legal, the government would definitely get there hands on that shit and make as much money as they could by puttin taxes on it. It'd be like $10.65 for a dime...:wtf:
That's just retarted. I'll take my chances gettin caught.
why not! if everyone toked up hostility would go down, and relaxation would set in america...alcohol is way more harmfull:thumbsup:
I totaly agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
Cannabis should be equal to Alcohol. I also believe if cannabis was legal, it would drastically lower the "gateway drug" theory since we could legally grow marijuana and not have to buy from drug dealers. That's just the jist of my opinion.
I have long believed that is why it is not legal now. The government cant figure out how to tax it enough to make as much as they are making off of it now!!Quote:
Originally Posted by tha_kidd 9097
Think about it , what happens when someone gets busted XSP a big bust, they take your money then, you pay fines and such, and I am also convinced that over half of with we smoke is grown by the government!!
Here is the scenario
Johnny buys 1lb of weed for $800
Johnny gets busted with said LB of weed
Fine and court cost of no less than $2000
Johnny goes to prison
The police take this very same LB of weed and resale it
For another $800
The police bust Joe Bob with this same LB of weed
Joe bob Pays fines and court cost. $2000
Joe Bob has a really good Lawyer so he doesnâ??t go to prison instead he pays more fine plus he pays his Lawyer some big bucks which the lawyers pays taxes on which the state and local government collect
It is a never-ending circle.
ok im gonna say NO, personally for me.
but YES for the sake of everyone gettin shafted.
the reason why i dont give 2 shits if its legal is bc right now im in a perfect loophole.
ive got a perscription to blaze. if it were completely legal prices would go way down which is good for everyone but the guy who gets the best of both worlds like me. AND if i get my care providers liscense i sell all my excess back to the clubs...top dollar for top bud. shit the best kept secret in california is the fact that regular guys like a friend of mine are becoming millionaires, selling the peoples chronic to uncle sam. walk out with a briefcase full of money......california dreamin'
although this isnt all clubs and theres plenty of this thats hows and whys.
it would be nice if it were legal so joe blow in BFE isnt smoking dogshit right now going 'damn i wish i could'
It should just be decriminalized... don't wanna pay 100$ for 5 grams after legalisation and taxation >.>...
Neither do i want to scare the shit out of me every time i see a cop pass by...
I know the majority are just messing around, but I'm surprised 81 people said no.
no, i believe that large tobacco companies would start selling it in stores with a lot of synthetic addictives.
I know this might seem a little F*ck Up but i think marijuana should be legal in just a few states because if marijuana is legal all over the country then taxes go str8 up...
Dude, you can't have it both ways....Quote:
Originally Posted by Subjekt
Yes if its legalized with the same age restrictions, laws, rules, regulations, and taxes that alcohol has. Here's a news flash for you. Even with alcohol you can legaly brew/ferment/distill your own in limited quantities for personal use. You can still buy the stuff off the counter, and FWIW, the stuff off the shelf is purer and safer than home brew. The pre-tax cost of a quart of Jack Daniels is around $2.00, Quervo Gold is around $1.75, etc. The pre-tax cost of a pack of cigs is around twenty five cents.
Would you pay $20 for an OZ of legal, high grade MJ "cigs" in the local liquer store?? I would.
Weed will have to be legalized on a FEDERAL level to keep the DEA and other agencies from busting the state run stores and coops.
Based on the harm principal, Liberty and Freedom. Cannabis should 100% be legalized. Eliminate the oppression, erase the arbitrary laws, emancipate yourselves from mental slavery. Alcohol and tobacco are legal, which kill hundreds of thousands of people every year and have no medicinal value. It's completely hypocritic to censor cannabis. When you censor something, you are implying your belief is infallible. Human beings are not infallible, thus cannabis should be legalized. For those reasons and many many more. LEgalize it, don't criticize it, i will advertise it.
Good point but im not talkin bout taxes on the product im talkin bout taxes all over will rise, i dont give a shit if some good ass bud came with taxes, ok fine, i can take that L i would buy some high grade...But you missed my point, not tax on the product, tax all over....Quote:
Originally Posted by Mississippi Steve
In my opinion, every drugs should be legal. From pot to heroin, the government does not have the right to outlaw any of it. Proper education should also be given. None of this bullshit DARE shit that they fuck up kids head with. Every single recreational drug known to man can be used safely if you know what you're doing. Including cocaine, heroin, meth and all those other drugs everyone likes to hate. The key is moderation, with anything. You always hear about cokeheads, meth and heroine addicts, but you never hear about casual users. Not everyone gets addicted, and chances are you wont get addicted from your first use. I know people(through a forum, not in person) that use the harder drugs and aren't junkies.
legilize it and tax the hell outta it!
legilize it and tax the hell outta it!
if this doesent make sense sorry i just had a dub of chronic
Why don't people realize the concept competition. When there are many companies producing the same product the price goes DOWN. SO if weed were legalized and big corporations started competing, the price of weed will go DOWN from where it is now. The government will not tax it enough to make you STOP BUYING.....that would be BAD FOR THEM if the tax was huge.
IF the government choose to do this, what logical person would keep buying it? THEY WOULD GROW IT and not have the risk of being sent to jail for intent to sell. Not to mention the government would have scared everyone away from weed thus they get no money off the tax. The government is continuously adjusting the tax rate to slowly get as much out of you without pissing you off to the point of picking up your gun and over throwing the president.
Not everyone lives in Cali or out west where the prices of weed are cheap. 4 grams here is $30+. So maybe in some places the price might piss you off but I would bet for 90% of us the price would be much less than it is now EVEN with the governments tax.
ABSOLUTELY!