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The first pic is the ''family'' 3 plant that made its way out of a major bug attack. I gotta look up at it now and really need to bend it over. I dont need it getting too tall and it will do just as well tied down. If you look at the one that was planted sideways now you can see how fast the branches start growing straight up. And this one is the tallest and was the last planted, must like the soil there, but gets a ton of light direct.

The bud development looks so nice on the NL so i had to show this one. Looks like this all around the plant:jointsmile:. Its also getting really tall and i couldn't tie this one down. The branches have hardened off so much if i tried they would brake. Its a 7 or 8 month old plant so its as mature as you can get, it being re vegged.

Then i took a pic of a branch on the ''upways'' plant thats and man its very dark green. Of all my plants this one is such a dark color it looks so differnt then the others. And in and around where the pistils are it has a redish color. The smell is more of a earthy smell and not like that skunky smell some of my other plants seem to have.

Well here is the Wit and Maxine. The Wit plant i didnt have a hole for and maxine, so i thought this would be the place where my pollen will go. I might use a bit outside, but want the Wit pollonated for sure. Its really growing fast and can take a beating with good genetics to boot.

Here is a few small buds working on getting bigger. I wanted to get as close as i could with this pic so i did my best to crop it for your viewing pleasure, lol. They still have awhile to go yet but thought id show where my pollon is going. BTW Wit's on the left and Maxine to the right:wtf:



Thanks everyone:rasta:

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A nice quiet location, some decent soil and nutrients, proper care...and all these things shall be added unto you. Sorry guess the bible reference is over the top, but it fits. (Matthew 6:33)

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Well Rusty not in a month or so when im saying to myself ''please God dont let someone steal them''. Not that any person would ever be there, but with all the work i put into the grow its always in the back of your mind.

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Can't wait to see the final product. I wonder how much they'll stretch?

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Thats a good question Rusty. The Edna will grow taller for sure along with the NL. But i really have no idea as the were about 4' on there first harvest as of now im just hoping the weeds around them keep up as i said i cant bend them over. But the plants by seed are getting really big and will bend 2 of the 3 over this week. Its just safer, with same or more yield id think. And the other is more bushy then tall, not in this post, just didn't get a good pic of her. But this thing, plant 2 has so many branches, but short like a bush 2 feet off the ground.

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Gonna re-veg 'em over the winter? Have heard of folks putting the LED rope lights around delicate palms and ferns for some heat during the winter, but I wonder if you could use 'em for winter warmth and to extend daylight...? Likely limited to a greenhouse unless weather is temperate enough. Oh well...just thinking out loud. Definately not a stealthy technique, lol.

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Well i haven't thought about it till now, but if i could keep it warm enough id sure try it. But im not sure the lights would be warm enough. But i gives me an idea. The ground will freeze when winter gets here, but next year if i bury the rope lights when i put my re vegged plants out next year, they may help keep the roots just warm enough, it might just work. Id have to put a bunch down there though, but il sure give er a try.

If I made a small green house and put enough lights in ground and then a few around in the small homemade green house, it might just work and its worth it for sure. I would know just how to trim it for the next years growth too. Good idea Rusty, thanks:thumbsup:

Thanks for stopping in Rusty, its always nice to have the more experienced grower to have your back.


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Good idea Rusty, thanks:thumbsup:

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Remember... I've never tried, nor heard of the rope light re-veg technique ouside of my own twisted mind. Would be pretty cool if it worked though. :thumbsup:

LSY lookin good man cant wait to see them once they are all budded up

Looking good man.....:thumbsup:

NL x Skunk = Very Nice.... :D :stoned:

Well here are a few updated pics. The Edna is getting taller, not so bushy any more. The Skunk x NL is a good size bush now and about 5'.

But my NL plant is getting all yellow leaves. Not sure what it might be, but guessing id say Nitrogen and Magnesium issues. But iv given both and trying to pull all the yellow leaves off for protection. Any one but this one plant, im sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooo pissed. I have it in the plant problem section, but hasn't been seen yet. SUCKS MAN, I LUV THIS PLANTS HELP.:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

But the others look great. Last pic is was the sideways plant now up and very green.

Just hope i can put a fix on the NL, MAN

If anyone has a clue i dont know any help would be great. please


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Not really sure, since I can't see the pictures full size, but my hunch is that your plant isn't sick, it's just DONE. Well, not totally done, but it's finishing, and that involves taking the energy that was in the fan leaves, and putting it into the buds. Nothing to get all bummed out about... Go look again at irydyum's logs. I think that's where I remember seeing pictures of a plant with all the yellow fan leaves. Some plants do that more dramatically than others.

How long has this one been flowering?

Sorry i forgot the Edna and a lot of people like it, so here she is:thumbsup:




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Not really sure, since I can't see the pictures full size, but my hunch is that your plant isn't sick, it's just DONE. Well, not totally done, but it's finishing, and that involves taking the energy that was in the fan leaves, and putting it into the buds. Nothing to get all bummed out about... Go look again at irydyum's logs. I think that's where I remember seeing pictures of a plant with all the yellow fan leaves. Some plants do that more dramatically than others.

How long has this one been flowering?

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Well its a re vegged plant as the other first two. So its been re vegged since around Jan, Feb. And it cant finish with out budding first. I know how a plant will use up the leaves, but this isn't it bro, but thanks man:hippy:



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Well its a re vegged plant as the other first two. So its been re vegged since around Jan, Feb. And it cant finish with out budding first. I know how a plant will use up the leaves, but this isn't it bro, but thanks man:hippy:

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Sorry..... I thought from the picture that it had buds on it. :(

I'm yo sista, not yo bro, k?

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Plants are starting to really look the part LSY... looking nice. Me, well I had 28 plants until this afternoon, but the nice detective man insisted on taking them away and locking them up in the evidence room.

That about wraps up what's happening here on the green scene, first court date is a month away. I think that should give me enough time to gather the documentation I want to put before the court.

Ouch. Any idea who invited the detective?

No idea Rusty, I live pretty quietly. They seemed to be looking for a big stash and evidence of active dealing, but all they found was me with my knackered joints, some small vegging plants and a around a zip of bud.

Losing my plants and lighting is hard, but the worst of it is that I will have to go back to pharmaceuticals to replace the mood, anti inflammatory, muscle relaxant and sedative effects of cannabis.

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Losing my plants and lighting is hard, but the worst of it is that I will have to go back to pharmaceuticals to replace the mood, anti inflammatory, muscle relaxant and sedative effects of cannabis.

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Iv thought about ya all day Sara, trying to think of something to say, but sorry is all i could come up with. But sure doesnt sound like enough. I use it to sleep but muscle spasms as well. 4 ten mil Valium just doesnt work anymore, not to mention the 2 other narcs i gotta use to just sit up in bed. Any thoughts of moving? If cannabis took the place of the pills i gotta take, id be outta there.

Il be thinking of ya:hippy:



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Thanks mate, apart from what you have already said.... I don't think there really is anything anyone can say.

I use a raft of pharmecuticals to keep going from day to day, but cannabis meant no valium, no regular anti inflammatory, lower doses of antidepressant and antipsychotic meds as well as lower strength narcotic pain meds. All of which means naught to the courts because this country does not recognise cannabis as medicine and unfortunately, "the law is an ass" is not a valid defence to bring before a judge.

I filled the trouble shooting form out and took a few close up pics today. Not sure if iv done something to help it or its just that iv tried to remove the dead crap, but looks better. Still looks like hell tho. It rained, but now the sun is out with the humidity at about 22,467, lol. Very hot an sticky, but my other plants look like a pic in High Times. Not all yellow, but looks as healthy as can be. I really would like to figure this out, but in my goggles, all iv found was it could be a fungi or rot?

I pull everything that looks bad and thought about a anti fungal product. I have the 7 dust, but dont think it would help this issue. And thought about using baking soda in a spray bottle, but not sure this would help. The really dark crap on the plant is whats got me worried, because if it was only the leaf i would think there is a cure, not if its rotting under ground. But has been with less water and nutes all July and not a thing since the pic above on July 20th or 22nd. But looking at this pic closer, i can see it started at this time with lime color fingers and a few leaves yellow with the brown spots on them.



Any advise is very, very appreciated, like ya never know. Man am i glad i have a clone from it, no effects from its mom.

Hello, i have posted this info in the plant problem section, but seems no one can figure it out. I am putting this here to try and get any info i can. If any one has questions, just post them in the other section as im only trying to catch the eye of outdoor growers and or people that might have seen this issue. And its in bold only because im trying to keep all info so as iv not posted it more then once. So i guess this is new stuff. The pics posted are in other section as well. Sorry if i seem a bit freaked, but its the NL plant and if you have read this thread its the most important plant i have. But if it can spread, i dont want my others to get this, i seems like a virus from all of my goggles, but cant nail it down to just one of them, its almost like its got every issue from a to z. Please, please help thanks so much:(



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Only person to reply to me, lookin at pics,question,if i want to keep plant after harvest do i cut em back a lill or really far???

Check the Bonsai thread in my signature. It has all the info you need to give it a go. :thumbsup:

Tying yellow plastic flowers to your plant is just as fucking funny as it comes...Im rolling..lol..What the fuck:thumbsup:

I cant get over that..

Girls look fucked up LSY, what the hell did you do? Too many ferts? Im playing with that too but am affraid Ill burn mine also. Im scared.

Take it easy on them and you willl get what you want, I know it takes forever but its a fuckin plant:D

Sorry about that but maybe its in the dirt you planted them in. If thats the case, I doubt you can get rid of it. Just an idea, but look around and see if any other plants have the same problem. This sucks to see such a great grow go south... Best of luck brother, Im praying for yea;);)

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Tying yellow plastic flowers to your plant is just as fucking funny as it comes...Im rolling..lol..What the fuck:thumbsup:
I cant get over that..

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Well i will help hide plants better then you think, if you stop and think. As no plants we grow on this site would have a big flower on it. So its perfect to hide something you dont want seen by others, ya get it?

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Girls look fucked up LSY, what the hell did you do? Too many ferts? Im playing with that too but am affraid Ill burn mine also. Im scared.

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One of them has an issue, but did you even take a sec to look at the others, i dont think so:wtf:. Its messed up for someone to grow out some nice ladies, but you look only at a problem plant and say "girls look fucked up up". And dont even notice the other monsters that are as healthy as any plant in here and is bigger and better then most. But i get one bad one and the hole grow is shit? Come on man?:wtf: Try looking at the good once or twice, ya might learn something about it.

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Take it easy on them and you willl get what you want, I know it takes forever but its a fuckin plant:D

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Man i posted in your thread a choice to use ferts and burn your plants after using a pre loaded soil, while not adding any and have a fine yield. So you should be afraid, because i know you will burn them when adding ferts, iv seen too many that did. But like i said its your choice, burn em up. Dont say i didn't tell ya so:thumbsup:



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Only person to reply to me, lookin at pics,question,if i want to keep plant after harvest do i cut em back a lill or really far???

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Man the person ya want to follow is Rusty, i got everything from his older thread and if i can help just ask. But Rusty's got this down well bro,


Good luck, best method ever tho:rasta:



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Tying yellow plastic flowers to your plant is just as fucking funny as it comes...Im rolling..lol..What the fuck:thumbsup:
I cant get over that..

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And...? What other methods do you employ that work?

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Girls look fucked up LSY, what the hell did you do? Too many ferts? Im playing with that too but am affraid Ill burn mine also. Im scared.

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Ahhh...sarcastic, inexperienced and scared. Looks to me like either you are simply craving attention, or you want help but have a shitty way of asking for it. Which is it?

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Take it easy on them and you willl get what you want, I know it takes forever but its a fuckin plant:D

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Seriously...it's a fuckin' plant that performs better with proper care and a strong knowledge base.

Ok i gave each girl 1 gallon of some ferts today as its been awhile. The NL was only given water to see how she reacts. Id like to say she looks better, but most leaves including the green ones have a dead spot is all i can think to describe it. My friend has grown 20 years and told me he's never seen a plant do this before, but insisted that he put 7 dust on it. I guess it cant hurt her as bad as she looks now. My big worry is that there will not be enough leaves to supply my buds to finish. Sucks, because i would rather all but this plant go bad.

But i got a clone from her right before this happen and for the first time to try to clone, she looks very healthy and even gave her a very weak dose of ferts the other day. I gave plan water today and just let her sit in the window, but after dark i put her under a cfl by my bed to make sure she gets back into veg.

I l try an get a few pics tonight, Se Ya:hippy:


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Well i have a few pics taken around 7;30 or so and you can tell they are still getting good sun and iv never posted anything at this time. The pics iv posted before were all taken in the afternoon. I posted the Skunk x NL twice, because i can, lol:thumbsup:In my opinion they look pretty good so far, but i still have over a couple months to go.

The ''upways'' plant has so many pistils up and down every branch, which i think i helped it when i took it from the 5 gal and put her in the ground sideways. It could be 3 different strains as a few seeds was mixed up. White Rhino, Wrecked Homicide or a Wit, which is in previous posts. If anyone has any ideas, chime in and give your 2 cents. I have a Wit budding il post in the morning as it took an hour for just these pics. Stay:cool:


Edna, cross, cross, ''upways'':thumbsup:


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looking good.

Those things are going to monsterous in a month and a half.

man lsy those plants look great keep it up sorry to hear about your plant probs have you figured out whats wrong with them

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looking good.

Those things are going to monsterous in a month and a half.

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Well i sure hope so dd. Thanks for stopping by :hippy:

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man lsy those plants look great keep it up sorry to hear about your plant probs have you figured out whats wrong with them

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Hey Sticky i havent seen ya for a bit, been smoking on them plants bro:S5:. Thanks a lot man, yeah i have a sick one for sure. Its my best one too, i like the stuff it helps my pain and helps me to sleep. Plus it lasts a long time.

I gave her 5 gal's of straight water trying to flush out any old nutes and such hoping she will perk up. And if she does then il really take it easy feeding her. I have gotten a bunch of help and lots of ideas to help her and they al seem right so im starting with what i think might not stress her aymore then she is. I got this clone before she went sick on me and so far it seems to be still kicking. Itsin one of my fav pots to start a seed, works everytime to build a nice bowl of roots in. Then il put it in a bigger pot to make er my mom and hopfully il get a little all NL show going to harvest for Christmas, i hope. Never tried to clone one before, but looks healthy taken on 7 20.

Hey man how bout ya steal that cam from your siter, cusion, brother or who ever and show us your grow man. Just a thought.

So this plant with the bud shot might be the same strain as the ''upways'' plant, but not sure. Its the Wit i had outside that went through the bg attack. I am thinking the ''family plants are WW, but a guess right now as iv never grown it. Sorta fun trying to identafy them with only 3-4 strains to choose from i know was in the mix. I am thinking the ''upways'' is the same as this plant, the Wit, which iv have polanated with the WW male. At least im thinking its the right strain WW. They the ''family'' plants look identical, but there was a WR in there sme place that someone messed with which made me loose track. Maybe someone can give me their thoughts if the two look the same or not. But im thing the budding one and the upways are the same, what do you guys/gals think? :weedpoke:

Cool only about a 20min. download

Sorry tryin to kill the double post:confused::rolleyes::error::icon506:
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oh dont worry man soon as my sister comes over i am gonna get some damn pics haha have not had the time to be able to get pics and stuff been busy with work but on a happy note my youngest one is a female so im happy

well i hope you get ya plant issue fixed goodluck oh and yeah i have been smokin on some of the bud i grew haha happy to say it was seedless and it was some fire hell the leaves that grow out of the bud after they were dry smelled more like fire buds then leaves they got me stoned to haha well take care man :jointsmile::thumbsup:

I thought id put up the ''family'' gang i didn't Post the other day. Im thinking they are all the same strain, guessing WW. But could be wrong, but wonderful if im right. I know it takes longer with them iv read and they have really just started showing not long ago. As the ''upways'' plant, which needs a new name btw is showing bunches of pistils forming buds. You can tell on the shot i hope becomes at giant cola, iv never had one before. But i guess what im saying is 3 WW's and either 2 Wit, WR or WH, or i guess im still not sure. But the first 3 look the same to me and the one i have in flower looks sorta like the cola on the ''upways'', il call it ''sparky'' as its got some spark in it man. So anyone think they look similar?


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hey sup bro yeah man the first 3 looks really alike but im really stoned lol and that last pic looks like your gonna have one huge cola haha goodluck and keep it up man :thumbsup::thumbsup::jointsmile:

oh and p.s i posted some pics today go take a look

Well the Wit didn't load last night so here it is and no comments on the plant on the right as when it was re potted to finish a friend cut the roots off on all four sides and bottom. But in their defense they help me do my re veg and thought thats how it was done. Nope, but shes recovering now. I guess ya cant see it in the pic, oh well:thumbsup:

Also i posted a pic of a side branch of sparky, which looks very similar to the Wit plant in first pic. You can see the top in the second to last pic getting bigger:thumbsup:and its got pollen on a bottom branch to start my seed breeding adventure:cool:. But getting back to the pic of the branch, they all look like this and would be so cool to see them all bud up like colas, but iv never had that sorta like so im not counting on it, just hoping:D

Last pic is a NL branch of buds growing. Now its been doing this for a long time, but now im worried that i will not have enough leaves to feed the buds:mad:. The other day it got 5gallons of straight water, in hopes it washes any built up nutes in the ground. I will watch her for a couple days, then give just a bit of molasses. If things go well, then il hit her with nutes, just want the bacteria the molasses gives which is mild to the ferts iv given. If it gets too humid il spray her with some baking soda water at spots on the plant that looks like it could rot. I dont need anymore issues with her for sure.

Is what it is tho, will see later in the week:rasta:

Hmm...Looking at 'em, I'll have to go back to my first question in your Plant Problems post, and ask about the drainage. It looks like possible root rot (overwatering) to me, not a fungus or mold. Ya gotta ask, is something external (mold or fungus) causing the yellowing, or is the yellowing an indication of something else within the plant, and the yellowed/necrotic tissue is decaying? A bad root-zone can mess with leaf structure, color and function, depending on severity and cause. (overwatering, underwatering, ph issues...)
If not drainage, are you altering your watering/feeding schedule to adjust for rainfall?

If it continues much further, I think I'd try and foliar feed 'em a dose, and watch the reaction. If yellowing slows or color returns a tad, then that is a possible indicator of nutrient uptake issues, and can go from there.

If you keep spraying to cure the 'blight' and it's still coming on strong, either it's not blight, or the application/spray is ineffective.

Keeping fingers crossed. :thumbsup:

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Hmm...Looking at 'em, I'll have to go back to my first question in your Plant Problems post, and ask about the drainage. It looks like possible root rot (overwatering)

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Thanks for still trying to help out Rusty, i really appreciate it very much:thumbsup: Ok so i really dont think its over watering at all. My methods were in June was to hit them with the all purpose stuff 15-20-15 when it rained. Now it did rain more so then last year for sure and peoples veggie gardens are suffering bad. Then after a rain i would hit them again, then rain and again, and so on. But never gave plain water in between, because the rain took care of that for me. I never put ferts on without a good rain in between, ever. As far as drainage, thats tough to know as its under ground, but when feeding it goes straight into the ground and no puddles are left. And the 3 other big ones are in the same area, il say the plant thats closest is 10'. And then the others are 10' apart from each other. Now i dig the hole and this NL spot was the most easy to dig. So i guess the soil, at least 2' of it was very easy to dig up and was not dense and i saw no clay. While putting them in, i did run into a rock here and there, but nothing bigger then your fist.

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to me, not a fungus or mold. Ya gotta ask, is something external (mold or fungus) causing the yellowing, or is the yellowing an indication of something else within the plant, and the yellowed/necrotic tissue is decaying? A bad root-zone can mess with leaf structure, color and function, depending on severity and cause. (overwatering, underwatering, ph issues...)

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I believe my watering is on, but PH could be wacko, i have a meter, but just not sure how to get a reading in less i dig 2'-3' away from the plant and give her a few gallons of water. This way it will drain through where i feed the plant and spread out through the plants growing area to get the best reading. This almost makes me want to cut up a garden hose and next year, place one at each stem, this way i could water and attach a PH strip to a stick and put it down the hose to get my reading. Not a bad idea.

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Like i said we had almost a record rain fall year and was over for the month of June. So when i knew the rain was coming, i would hit them with about a half gallon each. Then the rain would come and in my opinion would help the ferts to the ends of all the roots. And there was never a period of time in the month when we didn't get rain at least 2 or 3 times in a week. So i could guess my average fert feedings were at least every 3-4 days. But never without a rain in between and after.

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If it continues much further, I think I'd try and foliar feed 'em a dose, and watch the reaction. If yellowing slows or color returns a tad, then that is a possible indicator of nutrient uptake issues, and can go from there.

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Well i gave them 5 gallons of water to flush anything that was built up. I thought this was the least restrictive method for the plant at this time. When looking at it, its still a nice deep green on the inner parts of each branch, but still im getting the spotting, then goes green, but this was before all the water i gave Sunday. Its going to hit 90 Tues, but how long do you think i should wait before trying foliar feeding. I haven't tried any sorta fungicide, but thought about baking soda. Only because it seems mild as a treatment and was thinking it might dry up the spots that look real bad. But haven't researched it, so its something im not familiar with at all, just read a bit on it helping a mold issue.

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Looked and looked, but cant find a pic of it on a MJ plant, which would be a lot easier to tell if it is blight. Found potato's and tomato's, but not one weed leaf, i even called the University of Massachusetts, but she said that a diagnosis would be impossible without seeing it in person. She was very nice, but did not want to put herself in which she might get it wrong.


So the most mild nute i have is Big Bloom, how much do i mix and should i try just only the bad spots or just hit the whole plant. Iv sprayed my bonsai's with water, but never feed any plant before. And the whole plant is bad so i guess id spray her down.

Like i mentioned before, the plant has nice buds in there but im afraid of losing all my leaves, with nothing left to feed my buds?

Ever heard about pinching the stem to create a bigger uptake on the inside of the stalk? I read it would only create a knot on the outside which then helps make the inside pull up more fluids and food? This guy has an MBA in horticulture and was who made this claim.

Anyway, thanks for hanging in there with me Rusty:thumbsup:



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Pinching (or crimping) the stem is called Supercropping. I use it as a technique to slow-down early flowering stretch on some of my sativa doms, but not too sure of it being a major benefit as far as yield though. Makes the cola a tad swollen, but I believe it's 'robbing from peter to pay paul', and side branching and overall yield suffers a tad. A six of one, half dozen of the other thing.

Never used Big Bloom as a stand-alone nutrient, but I'd spray entire plant at half 'normal' foliar strength on the bottle, and see if it's underfeeding. I have no idea what you put in the soil, or how long it will feed the plants...but ya gotta feed 'em sooner or later.

With the FF trio, Grow Big and Tiger Bloom have the micronutrients. Big Bloom is the catalyst that makes 'em work better, but has no micro's. Might be that you have micronute defeciencies, also.

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Pinching (or crimping) the stem is called Supercropping. I use it as a technique to slow-down early flowering stretch on some of my sativa doms, but not too sure of it being a major benefit as far as yield though. Makes the cola a tad swollen, but I believe it's 'robbing from peter to pay paul', and side branching and overall yield suffers a tad. A six of one, half dozen of the other thing.

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Thanks for the info and yeah that makes sense for the plant to feed up and miss the branches. And thought Supercropping was something al together, i guess thats what i get for not reading the small bit i found in here.

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Never used Big Bloom as a stand-alone nutrient, but I'd spray entire plant at half 'normal' foliar strength on the bottle, and see if it's underfeeding. I have no idea what you put in the soil, or how long it will feed the plants...but ya gotta feed 'em sooner or later.

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I was thinking the same thing Rusty. And 5 gallons of water im sure should have washed out a lot of what i put in here. The soil is very rich and dark looking and year ago was a cattle ranch, plus my spot was cleared of many thickets that had grown for years. Took near a month to clear them out, but all the growth in fall that died im sure helped out the soil as sorta one big compost pile. Well at least its helping the others get really big.

I even have a gallon of half dose mixed iv been giving my clone about twice a week. She luvs it and looks like it grows so fast after a feeding. First time iv tried to clone and got 1 out of 3 to live, but got it from the NL right before signs of the sickness.

But im really new to these nutes and its hard to fallow the directions when the plants are outside. I wanted to use only the solubles to build my buds up and save the other for indoor growing, but like ya said that plant needs some food at some point and 15-20-15 would be way to strong IMO.

I thought of getting the fert sick you put into the ground for a month or so to see if it pulled from them. And if the plant wouldn't, then i would think its a root issue, which i would not even know where to begin with such a problem.

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With the FF trio, Grow Big and Tiger Bloom have the micronutrients. Big Bloom is the catalyst that makes 'em work better, but has no micro's. Might be that you have micronute defeciencies, also.

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I was gifted them, which was a very big gift, just need to learn how to use them and there getting low now. I would like to get more soon, but maybe something organic as im seeing a lot of growers going that way. Just not sure which kind, there are so many these days.


Thanks for hanging in with me Rusty:thumbsup:, she will come around:thumbsup:



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Thanks for hanging in with me Rusty:thumbsup:

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That's why they pay me the big bucks. :jointsmile:
Just kidding...It would be nice were I paid, but then this would be a...ahem...what's the word...JOB. :wtf:

If you have and are going to use the trio, I believe I'd go with the website directions for weekly feeding, and adjust from there. (Fox Farms do answer e-mails ;) ) Unless you added bat guano, worm castings, kelp or any other long-lasting organic...in which case, I would look at what they are releasing, and adjust your Big Bloom/Tiger Bloom to compliment, not hinder your N-P-K totals for flowering. (did that make sense...?) Actually, that should be done for any ammendment and nutrient. Redundancies (needless repetition) can kill.

I'm pretty sure outdoors, the plants need more nutrients anyway, but 15-20-15 does sound like an every two week ratio. (akin to a Miracle Grow schedule, which is every 10-14 days) I'd think you should be able to go 1/2 strength weekly though.

The nutrient spikes work on the same principal as the time-release pelleted nutrients. Here in the desert, I can't use 'em. The heat here in the armpit of hell degrades the coatings and dumps everything after a couple of weeks.
Here's why...

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That's why they pay me the big bucks. :jointsmile:
Just kidding...It would be nice were I paid, but then this would be a...ahem...what's the word...JOB. :wtf:

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Well at this point id do just about any job, its much better then being stuck in the boonies.

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If you have and are going to use the trio, I believe I'd go with the website directions for weekly feeding, and adjust from there. (Fox Farms do answer e-mails ;) ) Unless you added bat guano, worm castings, kelp or any other long-lasting organic...in which case, I would look at what they are releasing, and adjust your Big Bloom/Tiger Bloom to compliment, not hinder your N-P-K totals for flowering. (did that make sense...?) Actually, that should be done for any ammendment and nutrient. Redundancies (needless repetition) can kill.

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Well im going to see what the 5 gallons of water is going to do before i put anything in the ground, but will spray it Wed evening and see if it helps her. Then and hoping it works, il be very slowly feeding it till its healthy, then leave her to nature. If your thinking my ferts i use is a 10-14 day thing, i could have built up so many nutes in the ground its not funny. Feeding at least 3x a week in July:wtf:and looking back the growth was odd. It might of been my warning sign, i thought was just the growth of a re vegged plant. But the others looked nothing like it so i should have stopped hitting the NL as much.damn

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I'm pretty sure outdoors, the plants need more nutrients anyway, but 15-20-15 does sound like an every two week ratio. (akin to a Miracle Grow schedule, which is every 10-14 days) I'd think you should be able to go 1/2 strength weekly though.

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Yep and i hit em hard with all the rain we were getting.

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The nutrient spikes work on the same principal as the time-release pelleted nutrients. Here in the desert, I can't use 'em. The heat here in the armpit of hell degrades the coatings and dumps everything after a couple of weeks.
Here's why...

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That was interesting as i thought it was water that activated the sticks.



So here is my Wit and Maxine plants. The Wit is doing well and the top grew so much, just over night. I have put some pollen on her in hope for my breeding attempt to start here, but no sign of seeds yet. Of course this plant will be re vegged, so il take some of the plant and let the lowers finish up my seeds.

But as you can see the Maxine isn't looking real well, but way better then it did. I had someone re pot it who helped me with my first re vegged plants so they thought they had to cut the roots off or trim them rather, but as you can see it went into that big ass pot.:wtf:. I should have done it myself, i take the fault here. But im thinking Maxine is the same strains as the ''family'' plants, which means im thinking its WW. So by watching the WW grows, i know its will take longer to finish up so getting the Wit out is important. I want to concentrate all my lights on the hopeful WW to get the buds nice and big, like a 12 pak, lmao:wtf:. One of the biggest buds iv ever seen was when irydyum grow out them WW's, incredible. No im not going to get that, but il put my CFL's together and get what i can. So maybe at the end of the month il harvest the bigger Wit buds and trim it down till the seeds are done. Then move the Wit into veg and throw all my lights at the hopeful WW.

Ti's the plan anyway:thumbsup:. I had a small sample of the Wit and 3 tokes later i woke up the next morning fully rested with my TV and light still on:stoned: so i guess a night time med:cool: If ya got time to open the link there are so many smaller buds on the inside of the Wit plant and the top is bigger then a cell phone. I think bigger then my last and first grow.

BTW I tried bending both over for space and broke the stem on the Wit, but thats what masking tape is for as you see no big negative affects to the plant. But i will say that here pot is chuck filled with roots, but she keeps on getting bigger. I think and if im wrong please tell me, but i feed, water then let her dry out as close to bone as i can get her, then feed, water and so on. I think that letting her dry out is helping the roots to breath a bit before feeding so when i do feed, she eats them up and isn't giving me issues for being root bound. Just a thought? If im way off let me know please.

Sorry for double pic, iv got way to many irons in the fire around here:wtf:il post them in the morning.:D


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