trust me, it's no contest, HID wins hands down. i've grown with both. you might get nice buds but they are gonna be light and airy.Quote:
Originally Posted by psychodelic
-shake
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trust me, it's no contest, HID wins hands down. i've grown with both. you might get nice buds but they are gonna be light and airy.Quote:
Originally Posted by psychodelic
-shake
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Originally Posted by headshake
hate to disagree with you shake.. but idk about running 400w of cfl on ONE plant! that is a lot of light on one lil gurl. i doubt if it will be TOO airy.. ya know?
and that is not based in fact so if you have ever put that kinda of light density to the gurls with cfl's tell we what is true..
and HID does rock.. even a n00b can get results under a HPS.. :D
~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé
Big and smooth, not as dense as HPS, but still, not as airy as outside grow!
Electrical bill? No difference, maybe 5$ a month? It's not something i'll call my mom for.
I've waited too much last year for harvesting the girls. So this year will be more aware of the ready-ness of my plant?! Anyway, not near achievement now, so..
Today i've watered it w/nutes. Full load. We'll see if she likes it.
Day 89 (30 flower) Plant is 34" tall from soil, no change in about, 1 week. So for you out there calling "start 12/12 now if not she will triple her size!" hum..she grown about, 10% her size...And she's a month in flower.. I think she's putting all her energy in growing buds!!!
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Monkey I want to add a bit of advice for your next growing. During the very early stages and up to about a month into flower you can take lower branches and gentally bend them. You can even go as far and "gently" bending as much as to break the branch. Doing this to the side bud sites that grow early enough into flower will cause the plant to product insane amounts of resin while still alowing the plant to heal. I have gently bent and broken the main stem of all 3 of my big girls about 5 inches from the tops and they all have healed with a nice FAT scar you could say where it was bent and the rezz is makin me drool. You dont want to snap it so it opens a wound just bending a little. Iv read alot about this but in my first grow i had a fan fall and break 3 branchs, they healed and this bud was dripping thc haha. Food for thought. give it a try on ur next grow and or read up on it. Looking great.
home depot
We'll see next year, but i like having a healthy plant, without modifications to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhAnceD
Day 90 (31 flower)
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Small, but plenty of 'em!
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Yo MonkeyBone. I'm a noob and have yet to attempt my frist grow although im currently gathering materials in order to do so.
Just wanted to say thanks for the awesome grow log and that i'm learning a lot from your thread. :thumbsup: It's really helpful since your only growing one plant and helps me understand how to care for a single plant rather than 10 plants like many grow logs are doing on here. Thanks again man!
PS: how do I add pos rep for someone?
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Dang....soon you will have to switch to D batteries to compare!
We pay ~$.13/kWhr for our electric. A that rate, 400W of CFLs for 12 hours per day costs $.57 per day.
(x*y*r)/1000 = cost per day
x = combined total watts
y = hours per day they are on
r = cost $ per kWhr
Hope that helps
Patience is the key for growing plants, and knowing what your doin!Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenGopher
Clic on the balance sign top right of one of the post of the person you wanna rep and wright something!
I'd love to compare them to 12v batteries!Quote:
Originally Posted by frostedwonder
I got 449w total.Quote:
Originally Posted by psychodelic
12 hours per day
first 30 kWh per day = 0.0545$
rest of it 0.0746$
+22,35/month "membership"...
Electricity is cheap here, and some of us fin a way to complaint about it!
If i'm correct, it cost me less than 5$ a month of electricity.. I think it's right. Our 6-7 1200w heaters or more energyvore!! Anyway, energy bill is not something to worry about, not for another 1 and a half month :P Winter bill!!! minus 15° celcius for 2-3 months in a row = $$$
thanks a lot for all your support, very appreciated to open the forum and see all the views and replys!!!
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Day 91, 32 flower
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MG, don't worry about the watts so much. watts are merely the consumption of power. 400W of HPS compared to 400W of CFL is not the same. true it's both 400W of power being consumed, but the difference is that one is more efficient than the other. the CFL produces 46-72 lm/W (or is 8-11% efficient). a HPS is in the 85-100 lm/W range (or is 12-22% efficient). granted lumens are a measurement used for the human eye.Quote:
Originally Posted by mainegrown
not to mention, the lumens, ~1600 for a 23-26W CFL are not added together. they do increase in areas where the light overlaps, but it's not like you (and most others) are thinking.
lets say you had 50 CFL bulbs (all 1600 lumens).
1600*50= 80,000 lumens (IF they added up, which they don't).
now a 400W HPS ranges from 50,000-80,000 lumens....all from a single light source. therefore you know that you are in fact getting said lumens.
did that make any sense?
not to mention, that's ONE plant. under how many CFLs? that one plant's meds aren't gonna last you very long (although this is relative) as a tent full of bigger, more dense buds that more than likely have better trich production. not to mention you will spend less on a HPS setup in the log run as opposed to adding more and more CFLs. trust me, not getting an HID off the bad is the single biggest mistake most people (including me!) make.
MB, i was in no way knocking your plant or anything. she is a real beaut! i've worked under CFLs for several grows and just outputting my opinion from my knowledge gained.
keep up the amazing work!
-shake
headshake, I know all that, but last year when I first started growing, I didn't knew that. Over. Now I'm stuck with a bunch of cfls, let's use 'em!
And i don't smoke the medecine, I, hum, make everyone else use it. $taxes$
Day 92, 33 flower
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Join Date: Oct-28-2008
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hehe!
Hey Happy 420!
i know it MB! i wasn't talking about your grow specifically. i was speaking in generalities. the statement was posed and i merely interjected with my facts, 'tis all.Quote:
Originally Posted by MonkeyBone
and i remember you saying you don't smoke....now. you are doing an amazing job my friend. can't wait to see how a HID treats you!
happy 420!
Can't imagine an HPS in that closet! But if i getan HPS, I will grow some known strain, not some bagseed!¸Quote:
Originally Posted by headshake
Pics later today
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Banana like formation on the very top of some buds, top bud included. Don't see anything on the sides of buds. Better pics of that tomorrow.
Day 93, 34 flower.
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Mmmmm I want to grow some Super Purple chronic someday. Just b.c I think it looks amazing.
you know sometimes when Im driving I look at big trees and bushes, some shrubs and they remind me of Cannabis. LOL. How much longer. Oh take a pic with them next to a AA Batery will help us gauge sizes. Looks so nice.
Day 94, 35 flower, watered with water only.
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getting to be near the size of them bulbs brah..
wanna take a pic next to a bulb lol better size comparison for that cola..
and people say you cant get results from CFL's?? man you disprove them wicked good.
~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé
OOO niceeee.
This is my favorite time of the flower stage. Now the buds swell up and get fat. I remember my very first plant. Was an afgani strain. Grew a 16 inch dick. I have a comparison pic of days 30 and day 55 and u see how FAT they get. ended up being a 30 G nug. I cant wait.
Maybe a size "D" battery, not a bulb!:P Buds are big but a bit fluffy. I sqeezed one yesterday and man, they're pretty dense. Sure Peachez last year has had dense buds, but leafy buds.Quote:
Originally Posted by mainegrown
Starting to smell a lot more too!
Pics later today
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Edit: Hard like banana things on top of some buds, it's confirmed. Male balls things.I cracked open some, no pollen, only bananas. Anyway there is not much, like maybe 7 or 8 buds have 1 on their top...Not 487564387 like Anetta last year! 99.999% Female!
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Yup, she's eating cake!! Morbid Obesity!Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhAnceD
Day 95, 36 flower. comparison with a "D" battery
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First pic is a random nugget on the side
Second pic is one of the 2 largest secondary shoot
Third pic is top bud
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Getting fatttttt.
Yupyupyup!Quote:
Originally Posted by EnhAnceD
Removed all male balls, there was like, 8-10 of 'em on the top of some buds, even top bud had one, before they spread their nasty yellow dust!
So she's safe!
I've get her out of her closet for some pr0n shots!
Day 96, 37 flower!!!
Always the "D" battery, and the bottle is a 2L
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must be quite the chore to move her all ovah the place man..
please dont break anything while on the move!
looking dank
hope it has the stank,
~MG
Freakin' resin..Sticky stuff!Quote:
Originally Posted by mainegrown
She weights 12,5 pounds, DRY. She will be watered tomorrow with ~3 liters of pure water. So weight all WET is around 15 pounds. The pot is around 2 pounds, soil is aroung 6-7 pounds. So plant is ~3 pounds I suppose. About 4 feet high bottom up. 35" from soil.
So yes it's a big plant, but I got enough space to move her, even if she barely fits in between a door frame!
Here is day 97, 38 flower!!
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Glad to see she still going MB ! Best of luck bro :thumbsup:
Stronger than ever!Quote:
Originally Posted by deleafer2220
Day 98, 39 flower!
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u gona send me some of that in a fedex box?? ill pay for shipping lol plzplzplz
all my plants died
Died? Why did you let them die?Quote:
Originally Posted by skrengf
Day 99, 40 flower!
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100th day!!! 41 days of flower!!
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This grow is looking fine, Bub!
It will be great to see the Z11 (sativa dom) x Neville's Haze grow in your set up. The bloom cycle will be the interesting part. The fmale Z11 went 10 weeks, nice. And she looked 100% sativa. Now the male can give genes that may take a long time to finish. If you grow them all out (18) hopefully you'll find a short bloom cycle female in there. Also, I'd not throw out all the males. Neville's Haze from Mr Nice Seeds are not cheap and like I did, cross them with a wicked female and hope for something great.
Shov
Looking sweet Monkey, So what are you thinking comparing her to the other 2 last grow.? Is that 4oz looking good ya think.?
~One~:rastasmoke:
~BudG~:rastasmoke::rastasmoke:
Yeah. I will definitely do something that is worth the try! really don't have the place for 18, but got some of my friends who are willing to try them out!Quote:
Originally Posted by Shovelhandle
This one is going strong, like the one who gave me 3oz. I wish it can give me 4!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by KillerBudG
Day 101, 42 flower
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yum yum yum batteries.....coughcough i mean.....herbs haha. them will be chubby nuggs my friend. I will wait along side with you my friend as our cannabis grows together.
Looking real fat. Looking like you will get over your goal of 4 ounces to me bro.
Next time I will take a baseball bat to compare! No just kiddin'. She's taking a sun bath in my dining room! Watered her, with water only. I don't like her "chemical" smell. So until it dissipates, I will only feed her pure water.
Day 102, 43 flower. Did a photoshoot! Click again on the super macro ones for sooper dooper ooper trichs shots!! Cloudy trichs? Whatcha think?
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It's fantastic to see how she grown in a month!!!!
Day 103, 44 flower
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