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All right guys tonights the night its going down but i have a quick question. This may seem dumb but i have two thermometers one readying the temp in the crock pot and one for reading the temp of the oil in the glass I'm keeping it in but my problem is that i cant keep my candy thermometer in the crock pot at the same time because it wont fit so i have to open the lid take the glass out and tilt it to measure the temp of the oil which causes the temp of the oil to drop and the temp inside the crock pot which i would like to avoid.

Now my question is should the temp of the crock pot and the oil be the same because if so then i could just use the thermometer that i have sitting in the crock pot.

whew sorry for the long post

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Now my question is should the temp of the crock pot and the oil be the same because if so then i could just use the thermometer that i have sitting in the crock pot.

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The temps will be close enough to work for you. Make sure the temp does not go above 250 F or you will be burning your herb. What I do with my crock pot is to fire it up on high for the first 30-40 minutes (it get up to 250 F), then take the lid off to cool it slightly back it down to the low setting. Temps remained about 225 F last time, slightly higher that the 200-210 F I wanted, but low enough to deliver the quality...

Obviously there are temperatures too hot and too cold to get what's wanted. Heating time can be too short or past the point of diminishing returns. I propose we conduct a massive funded study to determine optimum yields based on these variables! How does temperature in range and time affect the results? :D

Hey guys, two questions. When using the pan and mixing bowl method, how long do you simmer the hashish into the oil? I know you specified 1 hour with hash for the crockpot method, but no mention of how long with the PnMB method.

Also, just like when using bud, should the hash be pretty well broken up before I add it?

Hi guys and thanks for the updates, Q's and field reports. Great info!

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I propose we conduct a massive funded study to determine optimum yields based on these variables! How does temperature in range and time affect the results? :D

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Lol, Count me in. I've been experimenting with some different Sativa and Indica based strains to see which are better for pain relief/meditation/space exploration etc. I'll let you know how it goes.
Currently, my personal fav is a 60/40 indica dominated mix which I get by making two separate batches, with slightly more weed in the indica batch. So, couch-locked but flying 'high' in blissful contentment. 'Turn the volume up a bit will ya'

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Hey guys, two questions. When using the pan and mixing bowl method, how long do you simmer the hashish into the oil? I know you specified 1 hour with hash for the crockpot method, but no mention of how long with the PnMB method.

Also, just like when using bud, should the hash be pretty well broken up before I add it?

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Don't worry about breaking the hash up too much, after about an hour it'll dissolve into a kind of sludge/mud anyhow (depending on its construction method).

I'm cautious about recommending the PnMB method unless people are aware how important it is to keep the temp as close to boiling point as they can (too low and the THC won't break down and dissolve into the oil.

Also, watch the hash to oil ratio's, I almost screwed up a batch last week trying a new hash variety that turned very 'fluffy' in the heat and expanded so much that in the end was about 70 percent hash 'mud' to about 30 percent oil.
It needs to be half and half at least to allow all the THC to dissolve out (think trying to dissolve a tablespoon of sugar in a teaspoon of water, you reach saturation point quickly and the rest just stays as undissolved sugar grains).
I ended up having to add more oil and re-heat it. Not the best way to get the most out of it.

Keep the heat around the boiling point mark and watch you don't overcook it (the THC in hash dissolves much easier than in weed, so an hour/hour and a half is fine - but anything more can start to degrade potency), and you'll be good to go.
Just out of curiosity, what sort of hash are using?

Anyhow, keep up the good work and let us know how you get on.
Cheers
Flame :thumbsup:

Thanks for the great post, this seem like a very convinient way to get stoned.
Today I am going to pick up an eighth, to make 24 capsule, and smoke the remaining.
With the finished product, can I store them in room temperature? How long are they good for before i can notice decrease in potency?

Thanks

Thank you to Flameon and all the others who've helped refine this process. I haven't tried it yet but read the whole post. the potency factor makes it worth it not to mention the savings$$$

Hey admin we got this :jointsmile: and this :vap_smiley:
any chance we could get a capsule..
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(:D) or (:eat:)
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First, I would like to thank Flameon (and others..can't forget the 'hound') for their work.

Second, I have been checking out a few things. The people that are having a hard time, when using crock pots, started me thinking. So, I took out my crock pot and started checking temps. Anyone using a crock pot might want to add water to the pot. I am currently running three inches of water, in mine. This will help with making the temps more even and will not burn up your unit (some crock pots will cut off due to safety constraints). Once I added the water I was able to reach the higher temps necessary to simmer the mixture. Also, allow a proper amount of time for the unit to heat. After adding the water I had to wait two hours before a good temp was reached (190F). The temps were checked using a meat, digital and mecury thermometer. Once this temp was reached, I then started my two hour countdown.

The item I am using to cook my batch is a glass condiment holder. This conducts heat very well and is easy to extract the mixture. My crock pot is a "Rival Select Crock Pot".
I am also lucky enough to have a digital stove. So, I can also use the stove-top method, with great results.

My first batch was with some standard cheap brown weed. I felt a slight buzz from the pills. But, the best part was it allowed me to sleep like a log (a tough thing for my condition). So when using cheap weed do not expect the same results that would result from hydro.

My second batch was with Apollo 11 Genius. This batch was cooked using the above crock pot method (added water). The Apollo was grown by me and is very potent (covered in crystals). The same bud would sell on the street for $400+ an ounce. This batch turned out to be what everyone here was looking for. One pill and you are quite ripped! Two pills and you are literally tripping. I wouldn't even consider three pills.....unless I met Flameon, Weedhound or MVP at a pub and we decided on ritual suicide :D

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I wanted to make a batch last night but my crockpot died, so instead I used the oven. I cooked it at 250 for about 3 hours. The finished product is ready to go I just have to wait till it cools.

Today is my day off so I decided to eat a little more then usual :stoned: (about 1 gram). I will try and post my results later but if the oven method is successful I might not be able to :D.

Alter, how long did you cook your stuff for......the GOOD stuff? And what were your temps?

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Alter, how long did you cook your stuff for......the GOOD stuff? And what were your temps?

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I cooked the Apollo for two hours and fifteen minutes. Temps stayed steady at 190F. But, like I said, I think the most important thing was the addition of the water. Adding the water and waiting two hours for the temps to rise really made the difference.

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Well the oven method works. Holly shit am I loaded! Iâ??m so blazed I cant go buy munches. Itâ??s only been two hours and I am high. :stoned:

Ha ha I love stuff like that Ozo. :thumbsup:

Been working with my crockpot and pretty sure I have the method down to what works for me. Toggling between low and high, using a ceramic bowl to heat instead of the cup, cooking things long enough and making sure the mix is cool enough to put into the capsules and I think I've got it down pretty well

Yesterday I cooked up a batch that ended up cooking for 4 hours in my crockpot at approx 225 (between 200 and 250 the entire time.) Without a doubt.....my BEST batch yet. The physicians assistant I spoke to mentioned to me that in most ways of cooking with ganja the longer you cook it the better...IF you stay within temp range.

Three pills was just a TOUCH too much.....:eek:......next go I'll try two. ;)

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Ha ha I love stuff like that Ozo. :thumbsup:

Been working with my crockpot and pretty sure I have the method down to what works for me. Toggling between low and high, using a ceramic bowl to heat instead of the cup, cooking things long enough and making sure the mix is cool enough to put into the capsules and I think I've got it down pretty well

Yesterday I cooked up a batch that ended up cooking for 4 hours in my crockpot at approx 225 (between 200 and 250 the entire time.) Without a doubt.....my BEST batch yet. The physicians assistant I spoke to mentioned to me that in most ways of cooking with ganja the longer you cook it the better...IF you stay within temp range.

Three pills was just a TOUCH too much.....:eek:......next go I'll try two. ;)

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Hound, great post, luv that you got it all dialed in... :)

Next we'll get ya to make cannabutter and then your cookies will seriously kick yer butts!! ;) :thumbsup: :D

Flameon

Kudos to you! I have done some experimenting and have found another cooking method that has worked for me. I place my oil and bud mixture into a mason jar seal it and put it in a regular oven set between 225-250. Even if your oven gets too hot any THC that gets vaporized it stays in the jar. No smell.

Careful heating up mason jars. They aren't tempered so they could possibly explode or crack leaving you with a mess and possible blood loss.

I agree with Mr O....that doesn't sound safe; especially sealed.

O,

They are made with heat tempered glass in canning you typically use a process called pressure canning where you use a pressure cooker which heats the sealed filled jars to 240 degrees F under 10lbs of pressure. The only real danger of the glass breaking is if when you remove the jar straight from the oven and place it on a cold wet surface. I have done it this way a half dozen times now.
Sharon

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O,

They are made with heat tempered glass in canning you typically use a process called pressure canning where you use a pressure cooker which heats the sealed filled jars to 240 degrees F under 10lbs of pressure. The only real danger of the glass breaking is if when you remove the jar straight from the oven and place it on a cold wet surface. I have done it this way a half dozen times now.
Sharon

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Sharon (lunarose) is right. My mom uses them for canning and they are put into a pressure cooker full of boiling water as part of the canning process. Rarely does one ever break, and when it does it is user error not a canning jar issue...

Well that's more than I know about it......:confused:

I could ask my mom about it just to be positive. Last time she came to visit I showed her my MMJ card and then showed off my garden as well :jointsmile:

I tried this real quick. i ground up bout a g and threw it in with reg butter in my slow cooker, didn’t watch it much just played halo and stirred it every once and a while. Left it in for a good 2 1/2 hrs. I just used old pills I had for something along time ago and emptied them out. This worked great. 1 teaspoon of butter and 1 g made 10 pills. i took 3 the first time and felt a good buzz. I took 4 at work the next day and was good and messed up for about 4-6 hrs made work and class go by fast......they took about 2-3 hrs to kick in. gave the last 3 to my boss because he thought it was all in my head. In about 3 hrs he changed his mind. The whole thing was a great experience.

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thanks Flameon

How do I start my own thread thing? I dont have alot of money so I am trying to go with the cheapest setup that will still be successful. i just started 2 plants, they are about 3 days in and have sprouted but i dont know if i have enough light. I have a 75 watt fluorescent tube that im using but im not sure this is enough. any suggestions on what to use that isnt very expensive that will still be good? i was thinking about buying two CFLs (one for each plant) would that be enough light or would i still need more?

OK OK...WH, MVP you guys and doughboy over here in my head all day have convinced me.. Im gonna try this, Ive cooked fresh bud for cannabutter every harvest for years, but never in a crockpot with dry nug and butter.....just to get it straight... tblsp of butter per gram of dry ground bud. 2 1/2 hrs at around 210 deg? is this right?
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whiskeytango

this should be fun, cause after as many years as Ive been smokin, i got bonglung...lol and the vape is too time consuming.

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OK OK...WH, MVP you guys and doughboy over here in my head all day have convinced me.. Im gonna try this, Ive cooked fresh bud for cannabutter every harvest for years, but never in a crockpot with dry nug and butter.....just to get it straight... tblsp of butter per gram of dry ground bud. 2 1/2 hrs at around 210 deg? is this right?
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whiskeytango

this should be fun, cause after as many years as Ive been smokin, i got bonglung...lol and the vape is too time consuming.

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Pretty close, but 1 gram of bud to 1 TEASPOON (not tablespoon) of butter, or preferably coconut oil. Heating the oil first, and then adding the herb is a good idea. Here is the link to my post showing how to make 2 dozen capsules with an 1/8 and 1 Tablespoon.

Making Two Dozen Caps w/ 1/8 herb + 1 TBSP Oil

Have fun and post back your results!

MVP :jointsmile:

ty MVP....will post results as soon as we do em. Actually me and doughboy will post 3-4 hrs after taking em...lol gonna use your eighth recipe.....
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whiskeytango

ok, I'm trying this for my first time.

I've measured the temperature on the crockpot, and it's stayed at about 250 degrees f

it's been about an hour, but the mixture isn't super dark green (I used .5g's of dank to 1 teaspoon of ghee)

it's light to medium green, and the herb doesn't cover the whole surface of the container I'm cooking it in (a small bowl, 3 inches in diameter, 2 inches high).

should everything work fine?

2 hours of cooking, let it cool, freeze the substance, and put into capsules correct?

hey all, just checking back in.

the last few experiments i did were not big success stories with trying to add duff to the mixture and whatnot... inspired by flame's oven thermometer and whoever (i think it was weedhound) said to cook for 4 hours, i bought myself a oven thermometer (thanks martha stewart! =P) and found out that my crockpot stays between 200-225F on low, but takes FOREVER to heat up. armed with this new knowledge, i let it fully heat up before throwing in my mixture, and then baked for 3 and a half hours.

1 pill was a nice buzz, 2 got me pretty stoned, and im going to give 3 a try tonite when im done working out. All in all, I'd say i've finally achieved success, so thanks for all the pointers guys.

I'm currently making a batch with 4.5 teaspoons of oil and 4.5 grams of headies (funny how the teaspoons and grams are equal when you use bud for this method... makes it very easy to figure out how to scale it lol)... i have a ski trip up in vermont with 9 of my friends this weekend so i figure bringing 36 pills should make for a very fun and interesting trip =)

thanks again for all the help guys, and ill let you know if i ever try the duff method again (i may just save my duff for more traditional baking... =P)
-tspot

First I'd like to thank Flame for his continued support of this thread.

I have some questions for you Flame, that I'm dying to know.

In the original instructions, and throughout the thread, your advice has been to keep the temperature in the 180F to 230F range. However, in post 269, you had bought a thermometer and found out exactly what temperatures your crockpot was giving for each setting.

Ok, so here's my questions.

1) At what setting had you been using before measuring the temperature?

Whatever it was, you were getting outstanding results. Your original post suggests setting the crockpot on low, which turned out to be 250F when you measured it.

2) After measuring the temp, did you change the setting you were using?

3) If so, why? If it's not broken, don't fix it right?

It would make more sense to change your opinion on the temperature than it would to change the setting if the results you were getting at that temperature were outstanding.

4) If you did change it, how did that affect the final product?

Did you get better results when you moderated the temperature down to what you THOUGHT it should be?

5) Why use a crockpot?

It seems clear that a lot of people who have tried this have had wildly different results with crockpots and, in some cases, uneven distribution of heat within the pot.

6) Why not use an oven?

This question is really just 5) continued. I have used a thermometer to see if the temperature reported by my oven is accurate and it was spot on. Intuition tells me that the temperature distribution in an oven would probably be more stable due to the larger size. In other words, you have less chance for temperature variances based on localized heating (being closer or farther away from the heat source).

7) Assuming that you are working with very dry bud, approximately how much bud is in one tablespoon? Would you say that is about one gram?

I don't have a digital scale, and even if I did, the weight varies with the water content of the bud. Either way, how much oil would you suggest using for one tablespoon of bud? (based on the previous posts I would guess 1 tablespoon or maybe 1.2 tablespoons max)

Ok, enough questions for now. As for my experiences so far, I will admit that I haven't tried much. I have made firecrackers twice. The first time, I ate only one cracker with extremely mild effects...almost nothing really, just pleasant. The second time I ate two and felt great, but not the overpowering high everyone talks about.

Here is my main problem with firecrackers. I put about as much weed on one cracker as you can fit without spilling over. I'm guessing that it amounts to at least .5g if not more like .75. I felt good eating a total of 1g to 1.5g, but if I had vaped that same amount, I would be hurled into the next dimension.

I can fill my vaporizer approximately 25-30 times with a 1/4 ounce and get annihilated EVERY TIME. So, that would mean that .25g contains enough THC for this effect.

So, you can imagine that I am extremely UNHAPPY using 4 to 6 times the weed and not getting the same results! This is why I'm hoping that I can make your method work and get back to the same results with the same ratio I'm using in the vaporizer. I have one weak lung and even the vaporizer irritates it.

I had much better results with the second batch than the first and I achieved this by increasing the temps and time. The first batch was 320F for 22 minutes. The second was 325F for 30 minutes.

I believe that if I went down to 230F, in the range that you suggest, absolutely nothing would have happened. Perhaps that is because of the short time frame. However, the things that still confuses me is the opinion that temps above 300 will kill off the THC. In my case, I don't think 300 would have been enough. It could be that, in the short time frame, some is vaped off and the rest is retained. I'm curious on your thoughts about this.

So, I will be trying your method in the next week or so. Here are the parameters I'm using.

1) 1 tablespoon of bud, ground to a fine powder with an electric coffee grinder.
2) 1.2 tablespoons of ghee or coconut oil, whichever I can get. (Hopefully ghee)
3) Pre-heat oven to 250F, verified with a thermometer.
4) Add oil to a small ceramic cup with a ceramic lid and wait for it to reach 250F.
5) Add weed to cup and mix.
7) Cook 1 hour and stir.
8) Cook another 1 hour and stir.
9) Cook another 30 minutes and remove.

If the results match the results of my vaporizer, this should be enough to get 4 people high as a kite for hours. I will report back the results, though I am curious to hear any opinions on my plans.

Thanks,

Moby

I can tell you from my own personal experience cooking with a thermometer that 300 degrees is too high.....I've done it several different ways. Keep your temps between 200-250 imo and the longer you can cook it the better.

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I can tell you from my own personal experience cooking with a thermometer that 300 degrees is too high.....I've done it several different ways. Keep your temps between 200-250 imo and the longer you can cook it the better.

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I've seen people say 4 hours is too long and seen others say the longer the better. I'm assuming that you've found a method that works for you, so how long do you cook it? If it didn't matter to you how long it took, how long would you let it cook? I would assume that there is a limit. Obviously cooking for 10 days isn't going to do you any good. :D

i'm wondering why not use a double boiler, stovetop style?
seems to me, if u use a thermometer in the water of the outer boiler, get it to the exact temp u want with the flame regulated, it would stay that temp until the water evaporates. in which case, i would have another pot of water, preheated to replace whats evaporating

given the apparent fluctuations that exist in different crock pots and ovens in general, this is the method i plan on employing as soon as i have the nugs/keef to work with.

there's my nickel.;)

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This worked great. 1 teaspoon of butter and 1 g made 10 pills. i took 3 the first time and felt a good buzz. I took 4 at work the next day and was good and messed up for about 4-6 hrs made work and class go by fast......they took about 2-3 hrs to kick in. gave the last 3 to my boss because he thought it was all in my head. In about 3 hrs he changed his mind. The whole thing was a great experience.

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Nice job spector, glad to hear they worked out for you! :thumbsup:

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WT-

Pretty close, but 1 gram of bud to 1 TEASPOON (not tablespoon) of butter, or preferably coconut oil. Heating the oil first, and then adding the herb is a good idea. Here is the link to my post showing how to make 2 dozen capsules with an 1/8 and 1 Tablespoon.

Making Two Dozen Caps w/ 1/8 herb + 1 TBSP Oil

Have fun and post back your results!

MVP :jointsmile:

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Hi MVP, as always, you are my ambassador of 'Quon'! Thanks.

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Originally Posted by mbizzle

ok, I'm trying this for my first time.

I've measured the temperature on the crockpot, and it's stayed at about 250 degrees f

it's been about an hour, but the mixture isn't super dark green (I used .5g's of dank to 1 teaspoon of ghee)

it's light to medium green, and the herb doesn't cover the whole surface of the container I'm cooking it in (a small bowl, 3 inches in diameter, 2 inches high).

should everything work fine?

2 hours of cooking, let it cool, freeze the substance, and put into capsules correct?

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Hi mbizzle

The temps sound fine, although 0.5 of a gram is not going to fill too many capsules. How many were you planning on making?
Also, I'm not sure why you're going to freeze the mix before putting it into the capsules.
You'll find them easier to fill while the oil/butter is still in liquid form (room temperature).
You can freeze or keep them in the fridge afterwards. :jointsmile:

Hi mobyone, and wecome to the Forums :thumbsup:

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I have some questions for you Flame, that I'm dying to know.

1) At what setting had you been using before measuring the temperature?

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I'd been experimenting with two different 'crock pots' (and the double broiler method), to see what different strengths could be achieved using similar amounts of bud and hash, and what (if any) differences I saw in their effects, but mostly it was on 'low'.

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2) After measuring the temp, did you change the setting you were using?

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No. I tried a couple of batches on 'high' in the second 'crock pot' (the larger one in the pictures with the black bowl), but found that the strength was less than I was getting on low.
I suspected as much, due to both the smell, and of course the potency of the capsules. This was confirmed later when I checked using a thermometer.

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3) If so, why? If it's not broken, don't fix it right?

It would make more sense to change your opinion on the temperature than it would to change the setting if the results you were getting at that temperature were outstanding.

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True. I was just 'tinkering' to see what (if any) improvements I could find.

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4) If you did change it, how did that affect the final product?

Did you get better results when you moderated the temperature down to what you THOUGHT it should be?

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Yes. In my experience the three critical factors are: the quality and consistency of the bud used, the amount of cooking time, and the temperature. Bearing in mind that the process isn't quick, if your 'over-cooking' the bud at too high a temperature (even if it's only 10 or 20 degrees) its going to have a detrimental effect on the overall potency.
For example, if you cooked a pizza at 190 degrees instead of 180 for 12 minutes its not going to make too much difference to the end product, but extend that to three hours... well you see what I mean.

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5) Why use a crockpot?

It seems clear that a lot of people who have tried this have had wildly different results with crockpots and, in some cases, uneven distribution of heat within the pot.

6) Why not use an oven?

This question is really just 5) continued. I have used a thermometer to see if the temperature reported by my oven is accurate and it was spot on. Intuition tells me that the temperature distribution in an oven would probably be more stable due to the larger size. In other words, you have less chance for temperature variances based on localized heating (being closer or farther away from the heat source).

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In theory I would tend to agree, however, the chances of inconsistent temperature ranges is as great (perhaps even greater) using conventional ovens.
The differences between Make and Model, age, whether they are Gas or Electric, fan assisted, etc all mean that they too are subject to unpredictability. The reason behind the choice of 'crock pot' was based on the typical operating ranges they are supposed to run at.

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Originally Posted by mobyone

7) Assuming that you are working with very dry bud, approximately how much bud is in one tablespoon? Would you say that is about one gram?

I don't have a digital scale, and even if I did, the weight varies with the water content of the bud. Either way, how much oil would you suggest using for one tablespoon of bud? (based on the previous posts I would guess 1 tablespoon or maybe 1.2 tablespoons max)

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I'm hoping Weedhound will help me out on this one, as I use digital scales and a small tray, however it sounds about right.

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Originally Posted by mobyone

So, I will be trying your method in the next week or so. Here are the parameters I'm using.

1) 1 tablespoon of bud, ground to a fine powder with an electric coffee grinder.
2) 1.2 tablespoons of ghee or coconut oil, whichever I can get. (Hopefully ghee)
3) Pre-heat oven to 250F, verified with a thermometer.
4) Add oil to a small ceramic cup with a ceramic lid and wait for it to reach 250F.
5) Add weed to cup and mix.
7) Cook 1 hour and stir.
8) Cook another 1 hour and stir.
9) Cook another 30 minutes and remove.

If the results match the results of my vaporizer, this should be enough to get 4 people high as a kite for hours. I will report back the results, though I am curious to hear any opinions on my plans.

Thanks,

Moby

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Sounds good to me, will you be using capsules or 'setting' the oil/ghee and dividing it up into portions?
Good luck and let us know how you get on.

Cheers
Flame :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Rock.Steady

i'm wondering why not use a double boiler, stovetop style?
seems to me, if u use a thermometer in the water of the outer boiler, get it to the exact temp u want with the flame regulated, it would stay that temp until the water evaporates. in which case, i would have another pot of water, preheated to replace whats evaporating

given the apparent fluctuations that exist in different crock pots and ovens in general, this is the method i plan on employing as soon as i have the nugs/keef to work with.

there's my nickel.;)

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The beauty of the double boiler method is you cant 'overcook' the weed (the boiling point of water prevents you getting over 100 C), however, it also means it is possible to 'under' cook it (as some people have experienced).

You need the temperature to be as close to boiling as you can consistently keep it (it also requires a bit more work, you need to watch it, regulate the flame up and down, and make sure it doesn't boil dry), otherwise the THC won't dissolve into the oli/ghee.

Its a technique that some people have struggled with, but as long as you're aware of the 'do's and don't's, you should be rocking and rolling.

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Originally Posted by Flameon

The beauty of the double boiler method is you cant 'overcook' the weed (the boiling point of water prevents you getting over 100 C), however, it also means it is possible to 'under' cook it (as some people have experienced).

You need the temperature to be as close to boiling as you can consistently keep it (it also requires a bit more work, you need to watch it, regulate the flame up and down, and make sure it doesn't boil dry), otherwise the THC won't dissolve into the oli/ghee.

Its a technique that some people have struggled with, but as long as you're aware of the 'do's and don't's, you should be rocking and rolling.

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Flameon-
excellent point i failed to consider regarding temp required and water boiling/evap points.

my solution would then be to use vegetable oil in the boiler.

the smoke points of various cooking oils are much higher than required for this project.
just be careful no to burn yourself:thumbsup:

Smoke Points
Safflower 265 degrees C
Sunflower 246 degrees C
Soybean 241 degrees C
Canola 238 degrees C
Corn 236 degrees C
Peanut 231 degrees C
Sesame 215 degrees C
Olive 190 degrees C
Lards 183 to 205 degrees C

also consider it will take longer for oil to evaporate.
i believe this may be a winner.

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Originally Posted by Flameon

Sounds good to me, will you be using capsules or 'setting' the oil/ghee and dividing it up into portions?
Good luck and let us know how you get on.
Cheers
Flame :thumbsup:

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I'll be using capsules.

Anybody got the number of this cop that made brownies?

YouTube - Cop Eats Pot Brownies, Calls 911

Apparently they'll make you feel like your dead. I think he's got the method down to a science. LOL :D

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Originally Posted by Rock.Steady

Flameon-
excellent point i failed to consider regarding temp required and water boiling/evap points.

my solution would then be to use vegetable oil in the boiler.

the smoke points of various cooking oils are much higher than required for this project.
just be careful no to burn yourself:thumbsup:

Smoke Points
Safflower 265 degrees C
Sunflower 246 degrees C
Soybean 241 degrees C
Canola 238 degrees C
Corn 236 degrees C
Peanut 231 degrees C
Sesame 215 degrees C
Olive 190 degrees C
Lards 183 to 205 degrees C

also consider it will take longer for oil to evaporate.
i believe this may be a winner.

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Hi again Rock Steady

I think we may have misunderstood each other, when I spoke about evaporation I was referring to the water boiling off in the Pan and bowl 'double boiler' method.

Regarding the temps: the recipe specifically calls for temperatures below 140 C (285 F), therefore the 'smoke points' of the oils aren't really important as we shouldn't be getting anywhere near them.

Also, without confusing the issue too much, you could use some of the oils you suggest, however, there is a very important reason behind choosing clarified butter (Ghee) or Coconut oil over them. Namely, the fact that they are both higher in saturated fat, which is generally more effective in releasing the THC into the blood stream (due to the way the stomach acids digest, break down, and absorb that type of fat). Out of the ones you mention lard is probably the best, though not quite as tasty, or as efficient.

The capsules will still work if you use other oils, though you'll probably need to 'up' the amount of weed used in order to compensate for any loss of absorption.

Hope this makes sense, there's more info on the types of oils/fats that work best nearer the start of the thread.

Anyhow, cheers and good cooking! :jointsmile:
Flame

p.s. mobyone
Getting so wasted that I call for an ambulance has never been an issue. After taking three of these bad boys I'm not capable of using the phone! lol

M-one,

My doctor gave me a crockpot recipe for cooking and she spoke about cooking for 6- 8 hours which I haven't tried yet myself. My last batch I cooked for 4 hours between 200-250...and they are SUPERB! :thumbsup: