Btw judging from the vid (if you've seen it) do you think 172 CFM will be enough to filter my space?
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Btw judging from the vid (if you've seen it) do you think 172 CFM will be enough to filter my space?
I've thought, thought, and thoght some more. And I am completely out of options/suggestions. I mean when we cant cut, move, modify anything, what can one do ?
As I said before, the only efficent way to move air is you have an intake larger than your exhaust. Thats it, period, no ways around it, I understand thats not an option for you. So depending on how good that door seals is going to determine how much of a suction you create. Which is less than ideal. But, sometimes you got to make lemonade if handed lemons, so go for it.
At minimum I'd put a speed control on that fan so I could at least idle it back to keep from sucking all the lint, dust, and dirt into your grow area. And I dont care how clean your house is, you have dust, dirt, and lint in the air.
I'd also use the panda plastic with the zipper closure I provided you links to. Light leaks will really piss you off when your plants turn hermie. And light leaks is one of the best ways for them to do that. When its dark for 12 hours, it needs to be pitch dark for 12 hours.
If you are going the carbon filter route I'd probably just attach the Vortex to it, let it suck the smelly air in and blow the clean air right back in the room. Thats all that filter contraption thing is going to do you gave me a link for. It doesnt have any kind of an exhaust. I dont know what you would gain by blowing clean air filtered by the carbon scrubber into that space in the wall. And, whithout exhausting that air out of the room you would lessen the suction effect I would think, which is good.
I'd also get at least one, most likely two wall mount oscillating fans (14-16") amd mount to the side walls to save floor space. I'd want to try to keep air moving around in there as much as possible.
And I sure hope your house is AC'd, because with summer not far away, you will need it. If not you are going to have a mutnherfucker of a heat issue on your hands when it gets 90 degrees outside. For one that H.I.D. light makes heat, and the other is you are not at liberty to have ballast outside grow area, so there is more heat.
I wish you success, and I shall now bow out gracefully and let you proceed. Or maybe someone else here is growing the same as you and has some ideas. I guess I am spoiled because I had the good fortune of being able to use a spare room, and do whatever I needed to set my room up properly. This may also cause me to overlook the obvious for someone in your predictament. Maybe I wasnt the right person to be offering ideas to begin with.
Best of luck with your grow.
b0nger:thumbsup:
I dont like being here in these grow forums but for you and the way you sound just like me "I just want some damn bud or ill ...i got something in my eye..."
All i can do though is tell you about mine and yes its identical to what your saying but WORSE. As in what they everyone else says aaplied to me twice as much as it does to you.
So i had the double sliding door closet you know but i hd only 2 plants so used about as much room as you but the extra room im sure helped with dispersing heat and such.
I had this:
my closet...2 seeds bag...one...count it 1 t5 fluro 4 ftbulb. and i said i need to just try.
So they went great i threw em in there as seedlings in little jiffy pots and threw that light on and the whole time light switching was manual as in i wake up at 6 and go to sleep at 11 with my lights..
They suffered cold nights and i had to open my room door close the closet door and turn up the house heater to in turn heat my room close my door then open the closet to heat it.
your ventilation will depend on how much u can take out of the top of ur closetand how fresh the air is in your room...your window has to be open often.
My things went through most of life alright and as crazy as it sounds ijumped out my window with the two babies almost every weekday to babysit them in the sunbathing and jump back in my window anytime the neighbors (who knew i was doing it by the end no prob tho) came by.
One day a friend let me borrow his 400 wt and it was amazing they took off.. But he took it back 2 weeks in flowering.
the damn things went hermy after 5 weeks and i ended up getting one plants eighth and it was decent and the other was a total waste.
Sad
Problems:
Light problems were basically only the take away of the 400 so untimely and a few nights light stayed on too long and i had to make up for it in the morning.
Vent problems were i had no fan at all and window let in lots of cold so it was hard. I know you can do it if u let enough fresh air in the room and "move" it all aroud nicely which u can with a fan or two.
Basically all i wrote was mumbo jumbo but if u only read one line here it is:
Keep the fresh air flowing in...keep that damn light in check and Bugs will kill you.
Dont feel bad at all right now you should be happy youre starting it finally and try your best to attack problems until theyre solved and do it as they come at you which they will. and wear sunglasses i messe up my eyes in there for hours on end staring at every leaf and every new bud going...they were 4 or 5 headed little monsters a great site to look at. smeeled like rotten fruit and pineapple.
thats all i can do just had to say it as i read the whole thing and what most said didnt relate to a really ghetto grow.
So you are suggesting that I buy the carbon filter I wanted, set it up and just have the exhaust fan on so it sucks air through the filter and just have the ducting still in the room? So even if the ducting connected to the fan and the filter is still blowing in the room and no where else it'll still clean the air? I do plan on getting a carbon filter with a vortex fan since they claim it is good for noise or w/e. Hopefully this works because even if some one says this wont work I still just have to find out if it does. So I'm gonna get the filter regardless because I need my bud during the summer and I can't have the house smelling.Quote:
Originally Posted by bongerstonerd00d
Hey Orangeman I.M. me I'll put contact info up for a few .
Peace
Crispi :jointsmile:
Thx Crispi :D I'll add right now. Btw I fixed my light leaks issues and one seed split today. I planted it and it's under 230 watts of light right now for about 3 hours and to my surprise there hasn't been any heat issues :eek:. It hasn't sprouted but I thought I'd just give it light so when it finally does sprout, if I'm not here it'll already have light.
No, I am not suggesting anything. I cannot assure you what/if that carbon scrubber would do in the room when blowing the fresh air back in same space. I have never experienced this before, so before I said I think its a good idea, I will reserve judgement.
You need to listen to these others who are now trying to help. ALl is I know is for it to work correctly you need more fresh air in than smelly/filtered that you take out. Unfortunately, you do not have that option. So I am out of ideas.
I tried, and I failed miserably. Again, I wish you the best of luck with your grow.
b0nger
Actually I don't know if the space in the wall that I showed is blowing air in or out but I think because of it I have no light issues. All 275 (miscalculated watts) has been on since last night up until now and the room is still not hot so obviously that space gives enough ventilation for the heat issues. None of the seeds has come up out of the dirt but the other two seeds cracked today. Now all 3 are planted. Just waiting for proper lights and waiting for seeds to come up. Lights are on 24/7 since I don't have timer :(.
I might not make a grow log or anything like that since I'm not really getting any help that I need so to me a log would be just useless. I haven't even gotten a reply on my other thread asking about my room set up so I'm just like fuck it now. I might just go ahead and do this my self and experiment because obviously this is getting no where asking for help. This thread can be closed now, thanks for all the help but I think the best thing to do now is just to take matters into my own hands. When the plants are done (if they get done) you all will see the results :).
Orangeman, you'll do fine, dude
Thanks Frank! I really needed that encouragement. The two seeds I planted yesterday is still under the dirt but the other seed sprouted today. I think it's gonna be the fastest out of the three. I germinated in paper towel, it cracked in under 24 hours and it sprouted in a day after I planted. Hopefully I can flower them all at the same time :confused:.