American Indians Confront Bikers

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Originally Posted by PigSnout

The 6 million WERE Jews, millions of others were murdered by nazis as well.

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Way off topic.

How does this relate to what is a question of respect towards the spiritual feelings of the Indians ?

They were there first so why should a biker rally take precedence?

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Originally Posted by psychocat

Way off topic.

How does this relate to what is a question of respect towards the spiritual feelings of the Indians ?

They were there first so why should a biker rally take precedence?

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Way off topic? You were the one who first mentioned it. Put the pipe down down for a bit before answering next time. LMAO

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Originally Posted by PigSnout

Way off topic? You were the one who first mentioned it. Put the pipe down down for a bit before answering next time. LMAO

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Wrong !
You have an extremely short and distorted memory.
You mentioned the Nazi attempt to eradicate the Jews not I.
Whole tribes were wiped out in America, the killing of the jews had fuck all to do with that.
I was replying to your off topic remark.

This thread is about something different altogether.

I see it as respect not given by Sturgis and the bikers (PS I am a biker myself) to people who should be left in peace after all the shit they've had to put up with through the years.

Discrimination based on the idea that the European settlers were somehow superior to the "savages".

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Originally Posted by psychocat

Wrong !
You have an extremely short and distorted memory.
You mentioned the Nazi attempt to eradicate the Jews not I.
Whole tribes were wiped out in America, the killing of the jews had fuck all to do with that.
I was replying to your off topic remark.

This thread is about something different altogether.

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You don't get it. paparose first brought the topic up. Then you a few posts down Very well said papa
Agreeing with it, supporting his statements, his thought process.
But not your words? Same thing.

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Originally Posted by psychocat

I see it as respect not given by Sturgis and the bikers (PS I am a biker myself) to people who should be left in peace after all the shit they've had to put up with through the years.

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I agree

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Originally Posted by psychocat

Discrimination based on the idea that the European settlers were somehow superior to the "savages".

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you lost me

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Originally Posted by budsmoker

i gurantee u if the indians ran this country weed would legalized, crime would be down, and america would be a much better place 2 live

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Can you point to anything indians run successfully? The indian casino here has indians parking cars, serving drinks, checking id, doing everything but handling money. Why is that? I once saw a media report on a big ceremony, the government built all these new buildings on the reserve, and it was so great. 6 months later every window was smashed and the place was trashed. No one will convince me that they would do good job of running shit. Sorry if it sounds racist, but i rarely see indians doing anything but drink. Im not calling them savages but to act like they were the eco hippies of the 1400s is revision of history. Some parts of canada, like the praries, are overun with indian gangs and crime. I think alot of people have a very very romanticised idea of indians.
BTW sturgis is an american institution now. It brings millions to the state of whatever dakota that is from all over the world. Ruining some indian prayers, fuck off. That area is giant empty place all those states like montana dakota etc are like no people per square mile, pray somewhere else. Alot of times it only becomes "sacred land" when people want to develop it and the indians think they can get some money out of it. Ive seen it over and over again. How long does sturgis even last? A week? People in daytona put up with it, suck it up.

"the government built all these new buildings on the reserve, and it was so great. 6 months later every window was smashed and the place was trashed."

I guess the Indians didn't think they were so great....LOL

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Originally Posted by PigSnout

You don't get it. paparose first brought the topic up. Then you a few posts down Very well said papa
Agreeing with it, supporting his statements, his thought process.
But not your words? Same thing.

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Wrong again

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Originally Posted by paparose

well the thing is, your people slaughtered them like animals!!!!
They litterally stole their lands with lies. back then there were Indian hunters (Bill Clintons grandfather for example) and those people killed the natives like savage animals. White folks never fought bravely against them, whites had massive firearm power while indians had arrows and bows. just like the situation between israel and lebanon today. They always told lies to Indians, they always gave them promises that they never kept even one. Whites even gave them blankets with chicken pox viruses on, killing thousands, first biological weapon ever used against a human being, Well then you have atomic bombs that killed thousands instantly in Japan... how proud are you?

as the song says I see no bravery....


back then people used to fight in just wars with equivalent military power, those were brave man. Killing thousand with mega bombs, nukes, a-bombs can lead you win the war but does not give you the honor, it only shows how cruel human could be.

Raping and killing civilians in Iraq? It looks loke not much have changed since indian days. You still kill people without even blinking an eye and you can just walk away cause big brothers are protecting you, sweet..
In 200 years from killing indians to killing iraqis....When these killings gonna be ever over? In order to be the super power some people have to give up lives somewhere? Where is the greatness of this? If it is what it takes to be the super power we should start judging our values and ethics...
A civilization that built on unjustice and blood eventually goes downward...look up the world history there are many examples......

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This is the post I said well said to, please indicate where it mentions the Nazi extermination of Jews ?

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Originally Posted by PigSnout

Dear Mel Gibson,
You forget about the 6 million Jews killed during WW2? More Jews killed than the total approximate population of Native Americans. It's easy to overlook I guess, I mean it's only 6 million Jews right. Just a drop in the bucket to guys like you, huh? Oh that's right you think it never happened.

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It would seem that you were in fact the first to mention the Jews plight in Germany.

Do you get called colostomy bag a lot ??

Cause you are really full of shit.

Indians not Jews are the issue now please stop with the BS distraction tactics.

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Originally Posted by psychocat

Wrong again
This is the post I said well said to, please indicate where it mentions the Nazi extermination of Jews ?
It would seem that you were in fact the first to mention the Jews plight in Germany.
Do you get called colostomy bag a lot ??
Cause you are really full of shit.
Indians not Jews are the issue now please stop with the BS distraction tactics.

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Your mouth and racist garbage is where the stink is.
your post
And pray tell what do Pearl Harbour and 9/11 have to do with the original owners of the land you call home?
What about all the Indian women murdered and raped by your own ancestors ?
Ethnic cleansing on a scale never seen since the middle ages and even now they are treat like second rate citizens . Where do you think the KKK recruit , I'll tell you where from the decendants of a bunch of killers and rapists
Never bring a knife to a gun fight ?? WTF! That I'm going to ignore simply because I find it such a retarded thing to say.
Please think before you post and at least make it relevant.
My bad sometimes I think everyone can think outside the box, you cannot.
First off the Pearl Harbor reference was in response to the idiotic "lets everybody fight with the same weapons".
Then you jump right in with "Ethnic cleansing on a scale never seen since the middle ages "
Still with me?
(btw-This is what you do, trying to relate something that happened over 200 years ago to something today.)
Now take it to the next level which is your point about bringing up the Holocaust. The Holocaust=ethnic cleansing. I think most people are in agreement that these are similar. You in fact brought the issue up before I did. My post was in response and related to your post.

Racist ? Resorting to name calling?

Indians massacred long before the Jewish death camps(again I must point out that not everyone who died was Jewish) and therefore at that time were unprecedented (Don't forget the massacres carried out by the conquistadors).

Regardles the comparison is really neither here nor there as I already said , the problem seems to be you wish to adress everything except the issue.

You are wasting my time by harping on about nothing if you are so obsessed with the Holocaust then start a thread about it but otherwise try to stay on topic yeah.

The Indians deserve more respect than is being shown , now if you would like to adress this issue instead of trying to sideline maybe you would be left with nothing to say , maybe thats why you have to keep swerving.

Whats next , are you going to start babbling about anti american or calling me a liberal ? it seems to be the par for those who have nothing constructive to contribute.

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Originally Posted by paparose

well the thing is, your people slaughtered them like animals!!!!
They litterally stole their lands with lies. back then there were Indian hunters (Bill Clintons grandfather for example) and those people killed the natives like savage animals. White folks never fought bravely against them, whites had massive firearm power while indians had arrows and bows. just like the situation between israel and lebanon today. They always told lies to Indians, they always gave them promises that they never kept even one. Whites even gave them blankets with chicken pox viruses on, killing thousands, first biological weapon ever used against a human being, Well then you have atomic bombs that killed thousands instantly in Japan... how proud are you?

as the song says I see no bravery....


back then people used to fight in just wars with equivalent military power, those were brave man. Killing thousand with mega bombs, nukes, a-bombs can lead you win the war but does not give you the honor, it only shows how cruel human could be.

Raping and killing civilians in Iraq? It looks loke not much have changed since indian days. You still kill people without even blinking an eye and you can just walk away cause big brothers are protecting you, sweet..
In 200 years from killing indians to killing iraqis....When these killings gonna be ever over? In order to be the super power some people have to give up lives somewhere? Where is the greatness of this? If it is what it takes to be the super power we should start judging our values and ethics...
A civilization that built on unjustice and blood eventually goes downward...look up the world history there are many examples......

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the white cracker honkey man will not stop lying, decieving, killing, raping and burning until every last brown person on this planet is either dead or subdued to the point of being slavery without the title. DEATH TO WHITEY! ALALALALALALALALALALALALALALAA!!!!!!!!!!%&%$%! im a mutt, i have practically everything in me including whiteness(which i *ahem* secretely despise) and can say without a doubt that the americans will not stop until white people rule the earth!