national illegal immigrant day!!
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Originally Posted by Gumby
No I want them out... I think they should leave... I'm pretty sure I made that clear, but if not ... yes get the fuck out... lock the border, we need sovernty...
Load up the busses then??? Semi's ???
but all I am saying is instead of getting mad at the mexicans, get mad at the people incharge from them being here...
Their government....are you suggesting that we invade Mexico and cure their political system? If not, how?
and instead of spending the billions and billions it would take to round them up and ship them out... why not spend it on mexico and help them become a better nation... so 1/4 of there population doesn't want to leave... what good does shipping them back do when they don't want to be there... they are just going to want to come back... if we're gonna spend the money why not spend it in a way that will help them longer...
the whole give a man the fish thing...
ship them out they will come back... teach them how to become "what we are" and they will stay and make mexico better...
"yes get the fuck out... lock the border,".....LOL...flip-flop?
just like it does no good to bomb Iraq and not help... just like it was stupid to go through afghanistan and not leave soliders in there to defend it...
why fix a problem if you are only creating another one... why not stop the cause of the problem... <-- cause Bush and Halliburton get paid to fix all the problems they keep creating....
Your all for sending bucks to Mexico to fix their system and therefore keep their citizens and gang bangers home......should have Saddam just gave us all the oil contracts for nothing to keep us out of Iraq...since we didn't belong there?
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ok, now this shit is beyond ridiculous. why the fuck should we pay to fix mexico? why shouldn't they fix their own country? nobody helps the united states fix this country when something bad happens! i don't have anything against mexicans, but i sure as fuck wouldn't go into their country where i would be a guest as a tourist, and start waving my flag, and demanding all kinds of shit. there has to be a point when enough is enough, and this is it! oh, they did not give us the southwest. they lost it in a war, much like the lands they attained in the south of their country. there is no way to fix the immigration problem without someone being pissed. i would much rather the people that are upset are the ones that are here illegally, and not the citizens of this country that die supporting this country!
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Originally Posted by redneck1
ok, now this shit is beyond ridiculous. why the fuck should we pay to fix mexico? why shouldn't they fix their own country? nobody helps the united states fix this country when something bad happens!
Qatar recently (day or two ago) donated 70 million dollars for Hurricane Katrina relief. Around 40 million was donated to universities in the area such as Xavier. ;) ...
national illegal immigrant day!!
how do you idiots purpose on sending them back?
how much will it cost, and where will you get the money from??
what good does spending hundreds of billions of dollars to kick people out do??
and yes, don't you think if we would have given sadam $275,000,000,000 he might not have been so pissy?? Don't you think the people in Iraq and Afghanistan saw us trying to help out thier country by giving them $275,000,000,000 instead of using that money to blow them up they would like us a little more??
if we are going to spend the money why not try to make both sides happy instead of pissing someone off?? We have to pay for it cause it was our government who let them in... it was the US that was attacked on 9/11 right and the US who needs to be safe... we should have the strong borders... but we don't cause the people in charge want money... so they need cheap labor and a war... AHH... oh shit, 20 million illegal workers and one of the most expensive pointless wars ever (which was started by a lie from our government.. well more than one lie)...
why do you people always have to be mad at everone?? this is spose to be a marijuana forum, smoke something, it'll make you happy....
All I'm trying to say is that if we're gonna spend the money, why not spend it on making someone happy instead of pissing someone off again?
quit the patriotic bullshit and how great america is... they don't deserve here we're the best ever... people die for this country.. blah blah blah... they died supporting a country that cared... an idea that this is the best country in the world... and the best country in the world doesn't spend trillions of dollars blowing shit up and kicking people out.... this isn't america, it's a global empire... I am damn sure are forfathers didn't want us running this country into debt blowing shit up and kicking people out.. it will cost billions upon billions to do that, why can you all not get that??
we have to spend the money either way to get them out... and if you all weren't so busy being pissed at everyone you'd see 95% of americans want them out... you're just too busy bitching that they shouldn't be allowed to stay... NO SHIT... I haven't seen anyone even start an argument on why they should stay... So stop bitching that they should leave and instead try to think of a good way to get them out...
stop bitching to other people about stupid shit... it does nothing... if you'd read what people write and listen to what they say, maybe you wouldn't be as pissed off... but we're not trying to disagree with you so stop defending yourself... just stop thinking it's a fucking easy thing to ship them out...that's ignorant, and worse than them thinking they can stay...
I really don't know what is worse... illegals thinking they can just come in and have our rights, or the americans who really think we can just get busses and ship them back. Not once have I seen a plan or even an idea of how this could be done... it's one of the fucking stupidest things I've ever heard and you all are only doing it because you're not thinking... you're getting pissed and thinking with your dick and not your head...
I'm pissed too... I fucking hate them here... but that will do absolutely nothing to get them out of here... maybe when america understands that and you people stop getting pissed at people who agree with you... we can get mad at that people who do have a say and something will change...
just honestly tell me what the fuck saying lets ship them out on busses does?? someone get me the plan on how to do that and I may take you more seriously... but fuck off... you're worse of a problem than they are because you're doing nothing to fix the problem, just standing on the sideline making ignorant remarks...
and psycho, if you're gonna be a mod try reading before your write stuff...
ship them out they will come back... teach them how to become "what we are" and they will stay and make mexico better...
"yes get the fuck out... lock the border,".....LOL...flip-flop?
to me that sound like i still want them in mexico... i just wanna give them a reason to stay there so we don't have to keep kicking them out and costing more money...
Their government....are you suggesting that we invade Mexico and cure their political system? If not, how?
that's what we did to Iraq isn't it... so we can do it to one country but not the other... makes fucking great sense... but no I don't like killing people, not very peaceful in my mind (not sure why killing people isn't peaceful, just something I could never grasp)..... all I'm saying is the money is going somewhere... instead of giving it to Halliburton to ship them out and not do anything... kinda like Iraq... why not - (from my own post just up the page... read next time ok)
"fix it up a bit, stop taking so much money and taxing so much... build some schools... get some medicine, help maybe with water... hell I hated going to cancun and not being able to drink water.. can we not help them out with that... lets trying helping out our neighbors instead of blowing up another country..."
Why not help the kids in that country get an education so hopefully in a generation they can run a peacful prospering educational coutry... why ship them back to a place they are going to leave anyways?? why can't you all get that... stop being pissed at everyone, it's not their fault your life sucks...
national illegal immigrant day!!
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Originally Posted by Gumby
how do you idiots purpose on sending them back?
You make it illegal......to hire them...god your dumb. do you want me to list the 3 strikes for you again? THey will GO HOME
how much will it cost, and where will you get the money from?? Them they go there they can take their ases home.
what good does spending hundreds of billions of dollars to kick people out do?? Man you are smart...
and yes, don't you think if we would have given sadam $275,000,000,000 he might not have been so pissy?? Don't you think the people in Iraq and Afghanistan saw us trying to help out thier country by giving them $275,000,000,000 instead of using that money to blow them up they would like us a little more??
if we are going to spend the money why not try to make both sides happy instead of pissing someone off?? We have to pay for it cause it was our government who let them in... it was the US that was attacked on 9/11 right and the US who needs to be safe... we should have the strong borders... but we don't cause the people in charge want money... so they need cheap labor and a war... AHH... oh shit, 20 million illegal workers and one of the most expensive pointless wars ever (which was started by a lie from our government.. well more than one lie)... (smoke screen) war blahblah
why do you people always have to be mad at everone?? this is spose to be a marijuana forum, smoke something, it'll make you happy....I smoke all day every day and punk commie kids like you piss me off
All I'm trying to say is that if we're gonna spend the money, why not spend it on making someone happy instead of pissing someone off again? I dont give a fuck who we piss of. BORDERS LANGUAGE CULTRE
quit the patriotic bullshit and how great america is... they don't deserve here we're the best ever... people die for this country..(BRING MY DAD BACK ASSHOLE) blah blah blah... they died supporting a country that cared... an idea that this is the best country in the world... and the best country in the world doesn't spend trillions of dollars blowing shit up and kicking people out.... this isn't america, it's a global empire... I am damn sure are forfathers didn't want us running this country into debt blowing shit up and kicking people out..(are you kidding me what did they do to the indians) it will cost billions upon billions to do that, why can you all not get that??
we have to spend the money either way to get them out... and if you all weren't so busy being pissed at everyone you'd see 95% of americans want them out... you're just too busy bitching that they shouldn't be allowed to stay... NO SHIT... I haven't seen anyone even start an argument on why they should stay... So stop bitching that they should leave and instead try to think of a good way to get them out...
stop bitching to other people about stupid shit... it does nothing... if you'd read what people write( you type too much gumby, keep it to about 2 paragraphs and break it up with spaces it is hard to read when you sit here and bitch at commies all day) and listen to what they say, maybe you wouldn't be as pissed off... but we're not trying to disagree with you so stop defending yourself... just stop thinking it's a fucking easy thing to ship them out...that's ignorant, and worse than them thinking they can stay...
I really don't know what is worse... illegals thinking they can just come in and have our rights, or the americans who really think we can just get busses and ship them back. ( read above self deportation) Not once have I seen a plan or even an idea of how this could be done... it's one of the fucking stupidest things I've ever heard and you all are only doing it because you're not thinking... you're getting pissed and thinking with your dick and not your head...
I'm pissed too... I fucking hate them here... but that will do absolutely nothing(story of your life) to get them out of here... maybe when america understands that and you people stop getting pissed at people who agree with you... we can get mad at that people who do have a say and something will change...
just honestly tell me what the fuck saying lets ship them out on busses does?? someone get me the plan on how to do that and I may take you more seriously... but fuck off... you're worse of a problem than they are because you're doing nothing to fix the problem, just standing on the sideline making ignorant remarks...
and psycho, if you're gonna be a mod try reading before your write stuff...
ship them out they will come back... teach them how to become "what we are" and they will stay and make mexico better...
"yes get the fuck out... lock the border,".....LOL...flip-flop? ( remeber jekel hyde)
to me that sound like i still want them in mexico... i just wanna give them a reason to stay there so we don't have to keep kicking them out and costing more money...
Their government....are you suggesting that we invade Mexico and cure their political system? If not, how?
that's what we did to Iraq isn't it... so we can do it to one country but not the other... makes fucking great sense... but no I don't like killing people, not very peaceful in my mind (not sure why killing people isn't peaceful, just something I could never grasp)..... all I'm saying is the money is going somewhere... instead of giving it to Halliburton to ship them out and not do anything... kinda like Iraq... why not - (from my own post just up the page... read next time ok)
VVVVVVVwho has this kinda time gumby keep it short.^^^^^^^^^^
"fix it up a bit, stop taking so much money and taxing so much... build some schools... get some medicine, help maybe with water... hell I hated going to cancun and not being able to drink water.. can we not help them out with that... lets trying helping out our neighbors instead of blowing up another country..."
Why not help the kids in that country get an education so hopefully in a generation they can run a peacful prospering educational coutry... why ship them back to a place they are going to leave anyways?? why can't you all get that... stop being pissed at everyone, it's not their fault your life sucks...
My life is great.....NOW
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national illegal immigrant day!!
do you want me to list the 3 strikes for you again?
the only thing yo've ever thought of and yes... that's the kind of thinking I would like people like you to do... not go trough what I write and Bitch about it...
come up with a better idea and prove me wrong... stop bitching... for someone who's life is great you sure do bitch a hell of a lot about the stupidest shit...
national illegal immigrant day!!
1st time you are caught hiring an illegal warning
2nd time 50k fine
3rd time (listen) the CEO does 60 days CEO.....not manager not worker
see gumby not the worker....
national illegal immigrant day!!
well done... see some independent thinking... wasn't that fun??
the only problem that I can think of with your idea is that it exsists, just not in that form... but what doesn't exsist is a congress that care about that part... what I've been preaching the whole time...
It is on the jobs front that the hypocrisy of our leaders becomes so maddeningly apparent. From 1997 to 2005, we added 4,300 agents to patrol our borders, increasing the force to 11,100 and making it appear as though the government was getting serious about a crackdown, according to the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse. But at the same time, the number of federal immigration agents who investigated work-site compli- ance actually went down, from 240 in 1999 to 65 in 2004, according to the Government Accountability Office.
The same study found that the number of notices of intent to fine employers who had hired illegal aliens dropped to three in 2004. At least 7 million illegal immigrants are estimated to be working, but our immigration service could only find three employers hiring them.
http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/ci_3771055
when our government is making money on them being here... money from the businesses who hire them... they aren't too keen on kicking them out by not letting them work... cause they don't get paid that way...
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in546248.shtml
(AP) A federal jury acquitted Tyson Foods and three managers Wednesday of hiring illegal immigrants from Mexico and Central America as part of a nationwide conspiracy to boost production and profits.
(didn't they shut down on monday cause of all their illegals?? that was in 2003 that they were found not guilty... trial by jury though, right bong.. they were allowed to cause 12 people say so, not cause it's right or wrong)
Past high-profile cases haven't slowed the tide of illegal workers. Not a $1.75 million fine paid by Houston-based Pappas Restaurants in 1997 for training undocumented workers as chefs, then supplying false papers and hiding places at its Pappadeaux Seafood and Pappasito's Cantina eateries in the Metroplex. Nor the $1.9 million penalty shouldered two years later by Filiberto's, a Phoenix chain of Mexican restaurants, or the $11 million forked over last year by Wal-Mart for having illegal immigrants fill cleaning crews even though the chain said it was unaware of their status.
Although there's little consensus among employers on which legislative proposal is best, those interviewed acknowledged that from a national security perspective, the current system isn't working.
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/business/14466774.htm
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that's the same walmart you shopped at on May Day too Bong... not trying to say I was right, but... I think I was right....
But I'm glad to see that independent thought.... what about these strikes though
congress - 1st earmark warning
2nd earmark to make money 60 days in jail
3rd time 3 years in jail...
maybe if we hold the people who allow it accountable, it won't happen anymore... A country For the people, Of the people, By the people... not money whores...
national illegal immigrant day!!
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Originally Posted by Gumby
how do you idiots purpose on sending them back?
how much will it cost, and where will you get the money from??
what good does spending hundreds of billions of dollars to kick people out do??
Your the one that stated that they should get the hell out....how do you propose this...with financial aid for Mexico so they can take back their invaders.....your points, not mine!
and yes, don't you think if we would have given sadam $275,000,000,000 he might not have been so pissy?? Don't you think the people in Iraq and Afghanistan saw us trying to help out thier country by giving them $275,000,000,000 instead of using that money to blow them up they would like us a little more??
LOL...nice twist. What I stated was that you believe that we should line Mexicos pockets in order for them to take back 14,000,000 of their citizens, shouldn't have Saddam just gave us all the oil rights in order for our 131,000 troops to stay home....same shit!
if we are going to spend the money why not try to make both sides happy instead of pissing someone off?? We have to pay for it cause it was our government who let them in... it was the US that was attacked on 9/11 right and the US who needs to be safe... we should have the strong borders... but we don't cause the people in charge want money... so they need cheap labor and a war... AHH... oh shit, 20 million illegal workers and one of the most expensive pointless wars ever (which was started by a lie from our government.. well more than one lie)...
And this has what to do with the illegals in this country....9-11 garble doesn't work on this.
why do you people always have to be mad at everone?? this is spose to be a marijuana forum, smoke something, it'll make you happy....
You seem to be very happy.:rolleyes:
All I'm trying to say is that if we're gonna spend the money, why not spend it on making someone happy instead of pissing someone off again?
quit the patriotic bullshit and how great america is... they don't deserve here we're the best ever... people die for this country.. blah blah blah... they died supporting a country that cared... an idea that this is the best country in the world... and the best country in the world doesn't spend trillions of dollars blowing shit up and kicking people out.... this isn't america, it's a global empire... I am damn sure are forfathers didn't want us running this country into debt blowing shit up and kicking people out.. it will cost billions upon billions to do that, why can you all not get that??
we have to spend the money either way to get them out... and if you all weren't so busy being pissed at everyone you'd see 95% of americans want them out... you're just too busy bitching that they shouldn't be allowed to stay... NO SHIT... I haven't seen anyone even start an argument on why they should stay... So stop bitching that they should leave and instead try to think of a good way to get them out...
If 95% of Americans want them out, git r done! Drop their asses off at the border. You say they should leave, they are illegal, they drain our system, I really don't understand your flipping on this issue?????
stop bitching to other people about stupid shit... it does nothing... if you'd read what people write and listen to what they say, maybe you wouldn't be as pissed off... but we're not trying to disagree with you so stop defending yourself... just stop thinking it's a fucking easy thing to ship them out...that's ignorant, and worse than them thinking they can stay...
I really don't know what is worse... illegals thinking they can just come in and have our rights, or the americans who really think we can just get busses and ship them back. Not once have I seen a plan or even an idea of how this could be done... it's one of the fucking stupidest things I've ever heard and you all are only doing it because you're not thinking... you're getting pissed and thinking with your dick and not your head...
I'm pissed too... I fucking hate them here... but that will do absolutely nothing to get them out of here... maybe when america understands that and you people stop getting pissed at people who agree with you... we can get mad at that people who do have a say and something will change...
just honestly tell me what the fuck saying lets ship them out on busses does?? someone get me the plan on how to do that and I may take you more seriously... but fuck off... you're worse of a problem than they are because you're doing nothing to fix the problem, just standing on the sideline making ignorant remarks...
So remarks that contradict your beliefs are ignorant...o.k.....that makes for a great debate/discussion.
and psycho, if you're gonna be a mod try reading before your write stuff...
LOL...when I'm in here I'm not playing mod so stick that one right up your candy ass! I've read your stuff and asked questions regarding your post, YOU are the one that blew a nut!
ship them out they will come back... teach them how to become "what we are" and they will stay and make mexico better...
"yes get the fuck out... lock the border,".....LOL...flip-flop?
to me that sound like i still want them in mexico... i just wanna give them a reason to stay there so we don't have to keep kicking them out and costing more money...
Get the fuck out does not mean stay in Mexico. If I'm in a bar and the bouncer says get the fuck out...it usually means I'm in his bar...not someone elses.
Their government....are you suggesting that we invade Mexico and cure their political system? If not, how?
that's what we did to Iraq isn't it... so we can do it to one country but not the other... makes fucking great sense... but no I don't like killing people, not very peaceful in my mind (not sure why killing people isn't peaceful, just something I could never grasp)..... all I'm saying is the money is going somewhere... instead of giving it to Halliburton to ship them out and not do anything... kinda like Iraq... why not - (from my own post just up the page... read next time ok)
Don't pull this garble on my ass, don't work dude! I read your post and asked questions regarding what YOU posted.
"fix it up a bit, stop taking so much money and taxing so much... build some schools... get some medicine, help maybe with water... hell I hated going to cancun and not being able to drink water.. can we not help them out with that... lets trying helping out our neighbors instead of blowing up another country..."
Why not help the kids in that country get an education so hopefully in a generation they can run a peacful prospering educational coutry... why ship them back to a place they are going to leave anyways?? why can't you all get that... stop being pissed at everyone, it's not their fault your life sucks...
They know how to build schools, they know how to purify water.....you said it "teach a man to fish........" They already know how to fish but it's a hell of alot easier to come up here and take the fish for free! Rebuild Mexico...hell no, not unless they want to become a state!
By the way....... a good way to stop being pissed is to quit calling folk ignorant asses for their comments to your posts.
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
