Why marijuana shouldnt be legalized

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Originally Posted by HeyDan

Lets not forget the forfieture laws. Another reason Gov does not want it legalized. Many , if not most, states have forfieture laws that rake in millions, if not billions a year in homes, boats, cars..etc.

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HeyDan

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Too often overlooked.

I wonder if there are any statistics spelling out how much revenue is earned through selling the possessions of druglords, and even your everyday regular John, when they go down for major drug offenses. Not to mention the fines they have to pay on top of sentencing, which is sometimes not even compensated by forfieture. A lot of people going to prison for serious drug offenses that have their stuff auctioned off are paying for a huge chunk of however many years they end up there.

I'm not very informed when it comes to forfeiture, though. But I can imagine that it, itself, is also a multibillion dollar industry.

For those of you who believe that "Marihuana" cannot be legalized and taxed, think again.

We already did it twice. The first time the marijuana plant was legalized was in 1619, and it remained legal until 1937. The US government legalized and taxed "Marihuana" again in 1942. "Marihuana" saved George Bush's life. "Marihuana" helped stop Hitler. Follow this plan again.

http://www.chaozation.com/politics/hemp/HFV_video.htm

Just a quick note on the tax issue fm someone in the tax rip off capital of the planet. im in Scotland and i hope they dont legalise it cos the gov we have here are greedy bastards and will tax it to the death. i.e it costs me 9 quid for a pac of tobacco and the same baccy is sold in france for less thatn 1 quid. The tax over here is just stupid. But even if it was legalised i would still grow my own.

The guy that made "Marihuana" illegal in the US said there is no way for the source of cannabis to be controlled, and that was why it had to be outlawed.

His name was Harry J. Anslinger, and he was a drug dealer. While he campaigned against cannabis, calling marijuana the "worst drug menace in the history of mankind," he was illegally supplying morphine to Sen. Joseph McCarthy. His exact quote was, "The supply is so vast and grows in so many places that gangsters perhaps have found it difficult to dominate the source."

He said "gangsters" can't dominate the source. By that, he meant DuPont, Pfizer, Monsanto, ConAgra, OPEC, and other large conglomerates that sought to dominate the source of everything we use.

Anyone with a backyard, a frontyard, a closet, a windowsill, or even the homeless Vietnam vets living under bridges can grow "Marihuana." Cannabis grows in every climate, all over the world. There is absolutely no way at all for any corporation to take over the "Marihuana" market.

We, the people, will always control the source of cannabis. "Marihuana" was outlawed because corporations could NOT take it over.

Even though "Marihuana" was outlawed in 1937 as the "worst drug menace in the history of mankind," the US Federal government legalized "Marihuana" in 1942 to support the American military during World War II. "Marihuana" made the rigging of the parachute that saved George HW Bush's life in 1942.

Legalizing "Marihuana" helped stop Hitler. Legalizing "Marihuana" again will help stop Cheney and bin Laden.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but people can grow their own tobacco plants. Some of my buddies just made their own beer too.

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Originally Posted by Stellar

Too often overlooked.

I wonder if there are any statistics spelling out how much revenue is earned through selling the possessions of druglords, and even your everyday regular John, when they go down for major drug offenses. Not to mention the fines they have to pay on top of sentencing, which is sometimes not even compensated by forfieture. A lot of people going to prison for serious drug offenses that have their stuff auctioned off are paying for a huge chunk of however many years they end up there.

I'm not very informed when it comes to forfeiture, though. But I can imagine that it, itself, is also a multibillion dollar industry.

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There are entire police drug task forces within several states that opperate solely through seizure assets. If they don't bust people for drugs and sell off all the siezed items then they have no funding. Talk about your breeding grounds for corruption.

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Originally Posted by GlenCoco

Sorry to burst your bubble, but people can grow their own tobacco plants. Some of my buddies just made their own beer too.

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I can't argue with you about the beer (The only kind of beer I really enjoy is made by a friend of mine in his basement), but tobacco is one of the most disease prone plants around, and it only grows well in certain environments. Do you know people who grow their own, I'm not saying it can't be done, but I bet it's alot cheaper to just pick up a pack of cigarretts or even a bag of premium tobacco from a smoke shop.

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Originally Posted by Esoteric416

One of the big reasons it will take a long time to legalize weed is because of all the people who will be out of work. All the guards who wont be needed at our prisons when the inmate population plummets. The construction companies who will lose work when they aren't called upon to build new prisons. All the cops who won't be needed for drug enforcement.(of course there are always other drugs to enforce laws against but some cops will surely become unneeded.) And those people in the legal field who won't be needed to file papers, defend people in court, etc.
Now I realize that legalizing weed wil also create a staggering number of jobs, but remember that most people hate change so regardless of personal polotics those people who stand to lose their jobs will fight legalization, possibly just so they won't have to find a new job.
I'm not proposing a solution, just giving everyone something to think about, as this is a problem that will need to adressed when we make our move to legalize.

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This is an irrelevant concern. Drug offenders wouldn't just get out of prison because its decriminalized, leaving the prisons to lay off a substantial amount of prison gaurds.. They broke the law when it was illegal, and thats all that matters when it comes to justify having them behind bars. There would be no significant job losses as a result of marijuana being legalized, at all..

The more important thing to think about, is how much harder it would be to come up with a perfect plan to regulate the use, sale, and cultivation of Marijuana. Its realistically impossible. People will use it, grow it, and sell it whether it is illegal or not. It just needs to be decriminalized.

alot of sence being made above.

didnt feel like reading any of the other pages except this one but im pretty sure legalization is the main topic. well my opinion is america is already fucked and theres no turning that around.

if it became legal to buy and the government sold it and they taxed it i would still buy it. growing good buds takes a lot of effort, where as buying it would be just like how people buy alcohol, where you just go and pick up a box of blunts of whatever when you feel like it. growing takes too much effort and time. the thing is, i know a lot of people, including myself sometimes, that go entire days being stoned. if it was legal do you think more people would be stoned all the time. would it then become a "problem" like alcohol and you'd have to go to Marijuanaholics Anonymous meetings and shit? i dunno i'm pretty blazed right now. i agree that it should just be decriminalized. whoever said that no matter if its legal or not people are still going to grow it and sell it. if it was decriminalized it would be basically legal anyways.