so whats wrong with being a liberal?

whats wrong with greed?

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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR

The way I see it, and like many people have already said, is that you are stupid to wholey embrace either a conservative or liberal set of beliefs. However, if I was asked to classify myself I would undoubtedly call myself a liberal, as most of my beliefs are more liberal than anything.

I belief abortions used as contraception are wrong, but I also see that abortions are often necessary, and so I am pro-choice.

I believe gay marriage should not be a matter for the government to decide, and so I am pro-choice.

I believe that all governments are corrupt, and if not then they soon will be.

I believe that guns, if possible, should not be used, though I do not think they should be banned. However, I do believe that more gun control does equal less gun crime.

I believe that no country should launch a pre-emptive strike on any other country unless there is absolute proof that doing so will save lives.

I am against cencorship and prohibition in any form.

I am for the complete seperation of church and state.

If i'm a liberal, then I dont give a shit - i'm a liberal. However, I will not ignore or rebuke a conservative view just because it is that; a conservative view. I believe everybody should listen to every point of view with an open mind, and make the decision based on the facts, not on whether the particular opinion is too liberal or too conservative. It is because of this that people like Hydrizzle and amsterdam wreck my head, as they are too quick to dismiss something as stupid because it is different to what they think.

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I pretty much agree with that. I don't have a set of laws that I always think are right, I just do what seems right. Not necessarily what I think will be the best for me.

nothing is wrong with greed until you start manipulating or harming others to acquire what you want

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Originally Posted by amsterdam

you might be a democrat if:

-you cant talk about foreign policy without using the word conspiracy.

-you think solar energy is being held back by those greedy oil companies.

-your high school year book goals included the words "help people"

-you actually expect to collect social security.

-you would rather own birkenstock rather than Merck stock

-you think the flat tax should be at 95%

-you admire the swedish welfare system

-you trust ted kennedy when he says she was driving

-you have ever said "we should really call the aclu about this."

-you keep count of how many people you know in each racial or ethnic category

-you believe that a few hundred loggers can find another career,but the defenseless spotted owl must live in its preferred tree.

-you think the free market is where they hand out govt. cheese.

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Quite true. however you forgot.
-you feel the need to implement more laws on all citizens because how would they get by without the govt.
-you think that govt should regulate every aspect of our lives. exept morality, how could you ever let right and wrong influence someone's decisions.
-you beleive in free money to the poor for as long as they want. govt health care, govt housing, and govt control of busines. and yet you insist that republicans are for big business and you most certainly are not.
-you think that all minorities are downtrodden and must receive help getting into college. they really couldn't do it on their own merits (I am not being racist here. I have heard liberals say things to this effect)
-you think that wealth = evil, except yourself of course
-you believe that people have a right to illegally enter our country and
-you think that farm animals should be treated like beloved pets and really shouldn't be killed

I dunno personally I voted for this man.....

Its a free country, right??

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you cant talk about foreign policy without using the word conspiracy

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While ironically Torog appears to be the biggest conspiracy theorist on here, just look at my signature.

Ha ha! I like the signature! With such excessive use of commas it can be none other than everyone's favourite racist, homophobic, self-righteous Republican, Torog.

I'm gonna use that on MSN I think.

Where's Blue Cat she started this shit fight.......

Sorry, BlueCat.. I just realised that nobody has actually answered your question.

The answer is: Nothing is wrong with being a liberal. :)

Not doing well today...I will get back to you...but heres a little to chew on...
The history channel had a great show on the truth about Lincoln the other night ...you should look for a repeat....Oh and BTW those same Iraqi women you "allowed" to vote as if that is our job to do....you guys always avoid the fact that your reason for invasion was WMD that did not exist...but tell a lie enough times....anyway those same women are throwing rocks and cocktails at the Army doctors and nurse vechicles as they go from one spot to the next...yelling GET OUT AMERICANS! One soldier got his legs almost blow off today...the armour saved him but he is still a mess. Just got that report first hand...THEY the IRAQI men and women want us out and the soldiers want to leave...so its not rocket science....a 2nd grader could figure out what to do next...
And please don't stand around waving your flag unless your willing to stand in the line of fire...

heres a little about your beloved republican.....

Many people believe that even in the darkest days of the Civil War Lincoln was steadfast in his resolve to free the slaves. Nothing can be farther from the truth. He had slaves and was known to use racial slurs a lot...
Lincoln was walking a political tight rope. He had to keep his powerful abolitionist supporters happy, but was fearful of losing the support of the loyal border states whose economy was still based on slavery. His real resolve was to win the war. He had to balance the support of those who wished to destroy the South with those who were increasingly alarmed by the bloodshed and looked to comprise as a solution to ending the war.

The biggest myth about Lincoln was that he freed all the slaves. Actually Lincoln never did free all the slaves. The Emancipation Proclamation only proclaimed the slaves in all territories held by the Confederates free, but didn't free any of the slaves in the North. It also did not apply to the border states and their 300,000 slaves. It was just a political move to get support in Europe and to encourage the slaves to rebel and cause trouble in the South.


Later Cat