what happened at the meeting today?

Releaf
I hope all best for all good MMCs
I have a freind of almost 30 years that owns one

Who really goes to MMCs and buys that much?There is no mony in it.Most rec users can buy high quallity on the street cheaper.Before 1284 that was not as true but it is now

Someone said something about the ACLU
Spying on First Amendment Activity - State-by-State | American Civil Liberties Union
Nah the government does not spy on citizens

Maybe there aren't a lot of people that buy that much. All the more reason I don't care if they track what I purchase: I'm not breaking the law. Additionally, there are a lot of people out there "shop hopping" and changing over caregiver rights multiple times a day. If you sign up ten centers and get a free eighth a month, that's almost a free pound every year. I get more calls about what we give away for free for signing up today than anything else. That should be monitored.

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Originally Posted by TheReleafCenter

Peanut butter doesn't have a resale value on the street, though. I don't think it's about harm, either. A patient is only allowed to possess two ounces at a time. If someone is buying a pound a day from various MMC's, I think there should be a way to flag them in the system.

@porone: I've read it front to back. It's hard for me to get too worked up over rulemaking sessions, same for the 20 different drafts of 1284. The camera over the sale I believe is just there to verify that the number on the scale is what the MMC is entering into the computer. And once again, everyone is already on camera everywhere they shop.

Once again, what do you think they're going to do with this information? Selectively prosecute you at a federal level for small amounts of cannabis? Leak your name to your insurance company? It all seems far fetched to me.

And once again (again), I'd be much more concerned about a poorly run shop having this information than the Department of Revenue. Poor internet security, a break in or a change in ownership can all lead to your confidential information being released.

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That's because peanut butter is regulated as food, not as the most dangerous substance known to man, as cannabis is. I think you are on the wrong side of the chicken/egg problem. It's the regulation that causes the black market, not the black market causing the need for regulation. I'd bet my bottom dollar that peanut butter causes more deaths than cannabis.

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Originally Posted by TheReleafCenter

Couple things. First, you're not held hostage by an MMC, you can visit whoever you want. You may not get the caregiver benefits from the new place, but it is what it is. It's going to encourage people to be more judicious in who they select as their center/caregiver, which is a good thing.

Second, I don't think that this system is designed to go "Wow, John Doe bought an eighth on Monday and then ANOTHER on Friday!" They don't have time to do that. I think they're looking for people who are buying their maximum two ounces from multiple shops, changing their primary caregiver/center all the time, etc. There has to be some safeguard against those kinds of abuses.

Lastly, who do you think is going to release this information? There are steep penalties, not to mention the law suit you'd be able to file. I keep hearing people talk about this list as if it's going to be published in this Sunday's Denver Post. It's all still held confidentially. I'd jump for joy if the state leaked anything related to status as a patient, same for my lawyer.

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how nice...you can afford a lawyer. ya know some are sick and distressed, others live off sub-prime incomes...lawyers and courts not going to happen. the simple fact is this...IT SHOULDNT BE ILLEGAL AT ALL. shop hoppers can go broke buying meds but obviously they make more money than i or the aforementioned. this is humanity, everybody out for themselves.

The problem with "Shop Hoppers" is not the bargains that they receive. It is the exposure to being over plant count when they don't let you know that they changed to another center.

MMC's, and caregivers for that matter, have no means to verify their plant counts other than the patient's word.

It's fairly dicey to gamble a prison stint based on somebody's desire to get a free gram.

they should simply disconnect the plant counts via patients for mmc's paying their fees. Besides the caregiver hopping, I think the patient hording is bad for patients. The centers should concentrate on the patients and the 1284 regs.

patients and caregivers are a private relationship.

what will happen when significant responsibility for the well being of a patient includes things the mmc can't do? Those counts are tied to being a caregiver!

editorial from: Proper pot rules and an overreach - Boulder Daily Camera

"Nonsense: The Colorado Department of Revenue`s Medical Marijuana Advisory Board has included in its proposal for regulations an idea to have the entire registry of medical marijuana users available to law enforcement 24/7. Considering that marijuana use is still illegal under federal law, we urge the state to dump this suggestion. We`re not talking about people in custody, someone who has crashed their car, or people who have been caught with marijuana who need to have the legality of their usage checked with the state: We`re talking about everyone. This flies in the face of the intent of the constitutional law. Law-abiding Coloradans are entitled to keep their health information private."

unfortunately they also like the DUI one. go make comment!

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Originally Posted by TheReleafCenter

This system isn't even in place yet, no one knows what it looks like or who has access, so the real question is: why is everyone so afraid? And who is driving this fear? It's a powerful motivator, fear.

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why is everyone so afraid? And who is driving this fear? It's a powerful motivator, fear.

Stories like the one posted above

They will keep fix n it till broke

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Originally Posted by porone

why is everyone so afraid? And who is driving this fear? It's a powerful motivator, fear.

Stories like the one posted above

They will keep fix n it till broke

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Yeah relief must feel nice and cozy behind their lawyers.

Thank You Releaf Center!
I am a dispensary center...not too far from you. But thank you for speaking your opinions from a MMC stand point. Everything you said I agree with 100% I think a lot of people don't realize what our lives are like. I don't think they know what our overhead is, what we deal with day to day and how much we have sacrificed. If dispensaries don't have quality meds then they will be shutting down soon and some already have.
People are able to get up in the morning in their pajamas and walk to a MMC and get grass, I would have KILLED for this when I was a young prat. People don't even know what they have!
Even in Amsterdam the cops come barging in, I don't think people know this. I was sitting in the gray area one time and the cops came raiding and gave them a ticket just for having the door propped open.
There's only so much complaining you can do when you are allowed to smoke and posess for free, I don't get it. Yeah I agree that it's an invasion of privacy and what not...but still! IT'S LEGAL.
And you can thank the private home grown caregivers that were growing and not paying sales tax for HB 1284...thanks a lot!

anyways, I just wanted to say that I have customers that are your patients and they always have good things to say about you. I am glad you are hear letting the MMJ Community know what it's like from a MMC standpoint. I've been stressed out for a year and have had about 3 days off. You also had a great review on the westword-keep it up!