Obama says torturers may face prosecution
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Originally Posted by justanotherbozo
so, just 'cause some reporter says it, it's gospel? shit man, they'll write anything.
not only that but do you think you'd really give a shit how many died if your
wife or your mother or your son or daughter had died on 9\11?
nah, i say, better them than us!
Will u please stop using 911 to justify slaughtering 100 times more in the middle east...
911 was down to a couple of hundred extremist lunatics who took it upon themselves to hit back after years of american interference in the middle east..
Bin laden is not the leader of islam.
He is nothing but an extremist trained and armed by the US when ye were on the same side in Afghan..
Bin laden is nothing.. A nobody.. An old man who lives in a cave..
Why didnt the US send in some Navy Seals/ Rangers to take him out..
Why did the US have to totally over react and start 2 wars ?
Revenge..
The wars were started to deflect from the real problem...
The US goverment was embarressed..
The american public was shocked and started baying for blood..
Did the US really really need 2 more wars to stick on its CV??????
Peace and Love to all...
Obama says torturers may face prosecution
send nancy pelosi to jail first she let the shit go for YEARS and did nothing!!
Obama says torturers may face prosecution
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Originally Posted by dossantos
Will u please stop using 911 to justify slaughtering 100 times more in the middle east...
911 was down to a couple of hundred extremist lunatics who took it upon themselves to hit back after years of american interference in the middle east..
Bin laden is not the leader of islam.
He is nothing but an extremist trained and armed by the US when ye were on the same side in Afghan..
Bin laden is nothing.. A nobody.. An old man who lives in a cave..
Why didnt the US send in some Navy Seals/ Rangers to take him out..
Why did the US have to totally over react and start 2 wars ?
Revenge..
The wars were started to deflect from the real problem...
The US goverment was embarressed..
The american public was shocked and started baying for blood..
Did the US really really need 2 more wars to stick on its CV??????
Peace and Love to all...
we keep the kool-aid on the left!
Obama says torturers may face prosecution
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Originally Posted by justanotherbozo
we keep the kool-aid on the left!
???????????
Peace and Love to all...
Obama says torturers may face prosecution
Hi All !!
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Originally Posted by dossantos
Did the US really really need 2 more wars to stick on its CV??????
I'm lost here. What is a CV?
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Originally Posted by MPLSweedman
send nancy pelosi to jail first she let the shit go for YEARS and did nothing!!
A pretty bold statement!!
I actually saw the press conference where she stated, Congress was lied to and she was not informed of torture already being used.
That being said!!
I feel just as safe today as I did when the last administration was in office.
If we are going to pursue prosecution for torture "we" need all the information. WE as in the Judicial Branch not WE the public.
I believe there should be very few exemptions from prosecution, I personally don't know where to draw this line.
If a person is acting on orders given to them by a superior, maybe, they should be exempt.
Anyone giving the orders to torture should be held accountable.
Anyone with the knowledge of illegal operations, and the power to do something about it should be held accountable, if they did nothing to stop it.
This should to apply to ALL branches of government, and I do believe bad legal advice is grounds for removal of seated judges also.
If it is found that anyone participated in illegal actions they should have their day in court.
Lets get it done and move on!!
Someone implied earlier that Obama is using this for a distraction!
I believe this is way off base! Obama shouldn't have to deal with this!
We shouldn't even have to mention torture, this is all just crazy!!
The fact is; We do have to deal with it!!!
Not because Obama wants to distract us, but because the previous administration was so messed up we can't ignore it!!
We as a people decided on election day enough is enough!! Not me, the COUNTRY, the voters, you and me!!!
If you didn't get the representation in Washington you wanted, TUFF NOOGIES, the majority did. Both popular and electoral, but that is another topic!
If you are relying on the information we are getting from the media, we will never get at the truth!
FOX NEWS, MSNBC, or CNN they all their own agenda to pursue, MONEY and RATINGS.
Just Sayin :hippy:
Can we ALL agree on one thing? NOONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!!
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Obama says torturers may face prosecution
Originally Posted by dossantos
Did the US really really need 2 more wars to stick on its CV??????
I'm lost here. What is a CV?
Curriculum Vitae = resume...
Totally agree that no one is above the law...
Peace and Love to all....:)
Obama says torturers may face prosecution
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Originally Posted by Dreadscale
I actually saw the press conference where she stated, Congress was lied to and she was not informed of torture already being used.
and we are to believe her because......? now that all the campaign rhetoric and partisan squabbling has come back to haunt her, what choice does she have but to lie, lie, lie.
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Someone implied earlier that Obama is using this for a distraction!
I believe this is way off base! Obama shouldn't have to deal with this!
We shouldn't even have to mention torture, this is all just crazy!!
The fact is; We do have to deal with it!!!
Not because Obama wants to distract us, but because the previous administration was so messed up we can't ignore it!!
each new administration must unravel the failures of its predecessor. just as baby bush was saddled with clinton's haphazard attitude toward the defense of the country and his spendthrift ways, obama must deal with bush and company's ham handed attempts at protecting us from the very real threats of today's world and the general ignorance of our former president.
instead of realizing that we are redefining the term torture (putting an old name on a different technique) and abolishing it now so that we can move on in a more humane fashion, our current leaders are distracting us by making political hay over where the blame can be laid for these desperate attempts at hurrying an end to an unpopular conflict. yes, it is a distraction. while our economy falls further and further into the crapper and a corrupt and inefficient bureaucracy claims more and more control over our dwindling free market, what better sideshow than putting political enemies on trial to divert the attention of the masses.
the pendulum continues to swing and the next in line will have to cope with brak's inexperience and socialist leanings. it's a cycle we can't break unless the people are willing to look beyond their own petty desires and the useless rhetoric of partisan politics.
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We as a people decided on election day enough is enough!! Not me, the COUNTRY, the voters, you and me!!!
this isn't the first time the american people have been fooled. each election brings with it a new batch of liars and thieves. greedy to share in the wealth of the "american dream" and eager for some "change" they can believe in, the masses have chosen to betray the very ideals that afforded that wealth and allowed the freedom of change. they have proven themselves willing to sacrifice the individual for the illusory good of the many and have forgotten that it was the protection of the free will of the individual that given us the chance at the standard of living they all seem to be clambering to share in without putting in the effort needed to attain it.
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If you are relying on the information we are getting from the media, we will never get at the truth!
FOX NEWS, MSNBC, or CNN they all their own agenda to pursue, MONEY and RATINGS.
our only chance to sift any truth from the mountain of lies we are inundated with is to watch the actions of our leaders and see if they match up with the promises they so easily gave us. this latest batch has yet to live up to their rhetoric. we will never know the details of their back room dealings, but we can easily see that their promises of honesty and transparency have come to naught. their vaunted transparency seems only to apply to the failings of their opposition and that honesty is belied by the hemming and hawing that accompanies each revelation of their false claims and their wholesale sellout of the american ideal.
Obama says torturers may face prosecution
Hi All !!!:thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity
and we are to believe her because......? now that all the campaign rhetoric and partisan squabbling has come back to haunt her, what choice does she have but to lie, lie, lie.
each new administration must unravel the failures of its predecessor. just as baby bush was saddled with clinton's haphazard attitude toward the defense of the country and his spendthrift ways, obama must deal with bush and company's ham handed attempts at protecting us from the very real threats of today's world and the general ignorance of our former president.
instead of realizing that we are redefining the term torture (putting an old name on a different technique) and abolishing it now so that we can move on in a more humane fashion, our current leaders are distracting us by making political hay over where the blame can be laid for these desperate attempts at hurrying an end to an unpopular conflict. yes, it is a distraction. while our economy falls further and further into the crapper and a corrupt and inefficient bureaucracy claims more and more control over our dwindling free market, what better sideshow than putting political enemies on trial to divert the attention of the masses.
the pendulum continues to swing and the next in line will have to cope with brak's inexperience and socialist leanings. it's a cycle we can't break unless the people are willing to look beyond their own petty desires and the useless rhetoric of partisan politics.
this isn't the first time the american people have been fooled. each election brings with it a new batch of liars and thieves. greedy to share in the wealth of the "american dream" and eager for some "change" they can believe in, the masses have chosen to betray the very ideals that afforded that wealth and allowed the freedom of change. they have proven themselves willing to sacrifice the individual for the illusory good of the many and have forgotten that it was the protection of the free will of the individual that given us the chance at the standard of living they all seem to be clambering to share in without putting in the effort needed to attain it.
our only chance to sift any truth from the mountain of lies we are inundated with is to watch the actions of our leaders and see if they match up with the promises they so easily gave us. this latest batch has yet to live up to their rhetoric. we will never know the details of their back room dealings, but we can easily see that their promises of honesty and transparency have come to naught. their vaunted transparency seems only to apply to the failings of their opposition and that honesty is belied by the hemming and hawing that accompanies each revelation of their false claims and their wholesale sellout of the american ideal.
GREAT POST!!!!
What do you think? Is anyone above the LAW?
:hippy:
Obama says torturers may face prosecution
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Originally Posted by dossantos
Will u please stop using 911 to justify slaughtering 100 times more in the middle east...
911 was down to a couple of hundred extremist lunatics who took it upon themselves to hit back after years of american interference in the middle east..
Bin laden is not the leader of islam.
He is nothing but an extremist trained and armed by the US when ye were on the same side in Afghan..
Bin laden is nothing.. A nobody.. An old man who lives in a cave..
Why didnt the US send in some Navy Seals/ Rangers to take him out..
Why did the US have to totally over react and start 2 wars ?
Revenge..
The wars were started to deflect from the real problem...
The US goverment was embarressed..
The american public was shocked and started baying for blood..
Did the US really really need 2 more wars to stick on its CV??????
Peace and Love to all...
the taliban were given an ultimatum to get rid of aq . I guess they didn't take us seriously. too fucking bad for them.
As for Iraq, if the pussies at the UN would do thier job we wouldn't have to. There were 14 resolutions against Iraq stating they would be attacked if broken, yet somehow a 15th was supposed to work?:cool:
Obama says torturers may face prosecution
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Why didnt the US send in some Navy Seals/ Rangers to take him out..
i would like to point out that pat tilman was a ranger so we have had rangers in afgahnastan lookin for bin ladin for a while now.
it aint just as easy as send in the seals or any special forces unit, real life is nothin like television
