Steve, remember, we're trying to reason with 'Jodie' :D
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Steve, remember, we're trying to reason with 'Jodie' :D
Choices...? What medical choices do the Canadians and British have, and how is it being paid for? Are there any British or Canadians out there happy with their socialized medical programs? Is it the panacea everyone (liberal Americans) keep screaming about?Quote:
Originally Posted by DTRave420
As far as the socialized educational system...we've been there for twenty years, and it is obviously skewed twords liberal indoctrination. Thank god we still have home schooling, military schools and faith-based learning centers, otherwise our young would learn nothing outside the facist 'progressive liberal' realm.
I believe that they have the choices of paying for their own private health care insurance, or using the government's program that everyone is entitled to. It may not be perfect, but it seems a lot better than being without any health care due to unemployment or, in many cases, working at jobs that provide no health insurance and not being able to afford to buy it......and at the same time paying taxes to support all kinds of coporate and public welfare programs to benefit people who are receiving health insurance. It's about time that everybody has one thing, another or both - because our current system simply does not work for 47 million people who did not have coverage in 2007.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome
"jodie was there when you.. Left...you're... Right"Quote:
Originally Posted by the image reaper
you're right, what the fuck, over ? ... don't mean nuthin' ;)
Canada and health care? Not that it has a lot to do with this, other than the gentleman that started the thread seems to be from Canada or is Canadian--we are pretty much in the same boat.
Last year I spent the winter in AZ. More Canadians there than US Citizens! Why? Escape the winter. Most were selling all their nice toys and RV's because their medical insurance in Canada will be to expensive the next year (as it increase's each year with age of person) to afford to come down here for an escape-visit. Our Medicare is getting a bit similar and we can stay here to experience it! Anyone notice?
If they (Canadians) leave the country after a certain age, they Personally PAY for their health insurance. And when you have arthritis, etc. you need a warm climate. I was shocked at how many thousands a month one fellow was paying to be here 4-6mos. more than most retirement incomes here or overpriced house payments, each of them were paying to way too much to keep health insurance in Canada! If we had to do it, some would never leave our country when we aged. Do they fly all over the world for health care?
Apache Junction, Wickenburg area and everything in between-lots of Canadians. If they can afford that payment they can most likely afford to pay for medical care here. You can bet, if they can't, our system has a loophole to stabilize them and jet them back to Canada if possible, or Canada does pay. Can't do that with the Southern Borders! And I didn't notice them running to Mexico for Medical care. At least they pay their way and boost our economy instead of stressing the system!
I/R, D/P-you lost me with Jodie and Steve, did I miss something? Surely, no one can miss that avatar D/P!!! You know, it has to be overloading my PC, took 45 minutes to get on line today! lol !! Is that the one Dave jumps in the forum, just to see? He has mentioned how much he loves it, anyone know if he has seen it yet??? Pretty cool (kinda makes my chest hurt after awhile-lol). Now, you got any ball busting bouncing baskets? For self taught PC skills, you really know your way around a PC. Guess, I need to stop reading here and learn how to do that fancy stuff too! Well, I'm busy right now, edumakating meself in the gro logs and books. Sure, I should be learning this PC, but I hope to get so much couchlock all I do is look at the animations!
Age and wisdom isn't something you can compare to education; each are different. We can choose to disagree, but lets let the kids play. They will be wiping our diapers one day, I sure hope I don't live to be that old though. When I was 19 I thought 29 was pretty old. It is all relative. And relativity to the thread is questionable. If he is paying tax $ for death, it doesn't matter where he comes from. Con. Objector--don't we send them to war anyway in the U.S.A.--like the chaplains helper or the Chaplain?? pr much respect to our vets!
Our health care system is of course inefficient and far from perfect, but we pay a fraction per month of what Americans pay for insurance, and everybody gets treated regardless of their socio-economic status. Some guy won't break his leg and be out of luck because he's homeless.
Mississippi Steve..."experience teaches only the teachable." The elderly are very wise if they're open-minded and deep-thinking individuals...if not, they're just your average propaganda-suspectible Joe, but exercising a lot more caution. They also tend to believe, like you, that age forms an automatic hierarchy. Rimbaud wrote all of his genius transgressional poetry before he was 21, even though plenty of 70-year-old bourgeois pillars thought they were right and he was wrong.
Rusty...you'd rather children were indoctrinated by their presupposition-blinded parents, the diabolical military, or, worst of all, fucking FAITH-BASED organizations? Woe betide the products of that education. Get over yourself and realize that America is not a liberal country, not even close...just not nearly fascist enough for your reactionary standards.
Doobee...you seem to be insulting my intelligence, which I won't stand for. My grandparents are simple people who lack worldly knowledge and the capacity for free thought...I know them, not you, so keep your mouth shut. The fact that you automatically relegate me to a lower status based on age and character descriptions of people I know is "telling". My views are originally phrased and not "pathetically parroted." I can and will make moral comparisons between Islamic terrorists and Western warmongers, and your automatic dismissal of such comparisons based on the kneejerk moral superiority you've been brought up on is "pure and willful stupidity at its worst."
No, I haven't been drinking too much liberal/humanist KoolAid...perhaps you've been drinking too much nationalistic/security-obsessed/xenophobic/army-loving/nod-in-approval-as-civilians-slowly-bleed-to-death brandy.
To everybody, I must state that in no way are my ideas derived from or influenced by the fucking media! Disagree with somebody's views and they always hand you the "liberal media" line, that you must be anti-war or whatever because of a nation-wide liberal conspiracy to undermine free-thinking conservatism. The reality is that the media is much more hospitable to corporate agendas than it is to the radical dissidents. But I'm not here to discredit anybody's views on the grounds that it must be that damned media...I'll give you all the respect of assuming you form your ideas with your own mind, which is what I expect in return.
OGG you won't get anywhere with them. I got -rep because someone still thinks that invading Vietnam killing men, woman, and children was the right thing to do. Calling me "dumb and disrespectfull", when I've steered absolutely from it.
"Kinda funny. This fucked-up, USA is at fault, twisted reasonoing you state here, is the same thing by extention. Some dickwads came over, and dropped some grenades (passenger airplanes) at our feet. Only difference, our kids hopped a flight, went to their country, and payed-back the favor. There has not been another grenade dropped on our shores, since. But guranteed, were I in New York that day, and the grenades had been dropped at my feet by these 'children' of allah...I'd have blown their young fucking heads off...just like you said you'd do to Steve."
Steve is a vet of Vietnam (Right?), how is that even linked to Iraq and New York, and Allah? This is why you're wording doesn't make sense to me.
I was talking about Steve talking about children in VIETNAM, dropping grenades at his feet.... and I said I would do the same thing... because HE(Steve) invaded my(Vietnamese) homeland, for reasons to combat communism(Fact), thus trying to force our western policies(Democracy) on countries half a globe away. Just cause Steve was in Vietnam, doesn't mean the war was Right, or just, or needed. This also doesn't make me "HATE Vets" cause I disagree with a war. The war in Vietnam was UN-WINNABLE... THUS we LOST it.. we lost lives, we lost money, and we lost respect.
Now to the Iraq war. Like I said earlier, how history repeats it self, just like I am. How we(USA) have NOT learned from history and its repeating itself in Iraq. The fact of the matter is... the MAJORITY of the country you live in, disagree with the Iraq war and want us to pull out. The current president got voted in(landslide), running on that ticket. Whether he does it or not, is up to the goonies in DC.
I also wonder why the last president was so popular, he did everything right, and left the white house in better condition then he entered. He must have done a great job the last 8 years to earn one of the highest approval ratings any president has had since record began.
Damn straight. It's much better than what's being dished-up right now. But since I feel nothing but pity for those that have been indoctrinated in the art of hatred and facist-leaning liberal revisionists, I'll forgive your ignorance and blind hate for that which you obviously don't understand. Your prejudice is your loss...not ours. :jointsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by overgrowthegovt
it's nothing ...PRQuote:
I/R, D/P-you lost me with Jodie and Steve, did I miss something?
just an old soldier's marching song...about a guy named 'Jodie'...it's designed to keep you in step..long story....:D
I think I may have to drop the 'Skink' memorial avatar ...soon