where are ya going camping? car camping or back country camping?
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where are ya going camping? car camping or back country camping?
sort've related.. I've only been camping once in my life and never gone again. I got lice that one time I went camping. I think I was about 12 years old. I'm sure I got it from another kid that was there.. but still; it left a bad taste in my mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by maladroit
I do however like to go out to the lake and fish and cook out on an open fire.. RAWR!
after years of being trapped inside, my kids finally got old enough to sleep in a tent in a campground a few years ago...the first few trips were nightmares, but we kept at it until they got used to it and now camping trips are the highlight of their summers...we bought a 10 man tent at costo for $250...it's a piece of crap, but it's big enough to stand up in, and there's enough room for two queen sized air mattresses and all the backpacks/boots/clothes
cooking outdoors over the open fire, smoking pot, and drinking beer in the rainforest is AWESOME! it's too farking cold and wet now though, so i'm going to kallyfornia to throw some money at the US economy...i hope they still have beer and pot down there
$40 to $80 would definitely help me out monthly. It would pay a bill or two and free up some money so I can go buy food and maybe have a little fun every once in a while. Right now I'm so up tight with my money that I really don't get the chance to have the fun some people do.
I really do not see how giving businesses tax cuts will help me out. Sure they may be able to lower prices because of less tax, but they will probably just keep the extra profit. People are just too greedy. So as long as we are scraping by enough to buy there products/services, they could give a fuck less as long as they have their two escalades, ferrari, and mansion. Yet they wine because taxes may increase. Damn, they may have to wait an extra few months to get that lambo that they wanted. All because they don't want to help out with the debt of the country that allowed them their riches in the first place. I want my tax break so i can actually have a chance at living at least a little more comfortably. Right now I'm pretty much a slave along with 95% of america.
You said it.. too greedy. I'm not sure what your situation is in regards to what is necessary in your life and what is not but if $40/80 is going to make a difference then there's a chance that you're living beyond your means. Going out when you can't really afford it, buying an item/toy when you shouldn't be. Hitting up the movies when you should stay home, buying services when you should be pinching pennies.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaySin
Then again you could be bed ridden for all I know and it could be justifiable; fact is this, we are currently paying lower taxes than we did 16 years ago. Either candidate is proposing tax cuts and we will be paying even less regardless of who is elected.
You talk about greed.. companies give people jobs, benefits and will price their products accordingly so long as their investors are protected and the profit line is good. Without investors or these companies we would not have many of the luxuries we take for granted today. With everything there is Balance... however many people wish to switch the balance and force the small businesses and large corporations which currently pay over 90% of the tax revenue and force more onto them. This will hurt their profits; which in turn will lead investors to sell off stock.. which will hurt them even further forcing them to cut jobs, raise the price of their product or whatever else they can do to protect their profits. Companies don't make goods out of charity. They make products and put time into research for their investors. Their obligation is to the company and to investors, not to the everyday citizen nor the employees that work for them. Their job is to make money.
You're willing to risk increasing unemployment rate increase because you want $40/80 more a month.
To me that seems like greed; but again the situation changes given certain circumstances. You may legitmately need that money but the majority of Americans are not in that boat. The majority of Americans live far beyond their means and are poor with budgeting their money.
I choose trying to keep unemployment rate down/fight it as opposed to putting an extra 40/80 bucks into american's pockets every month.
I will add this:
I do think the CEO's and boards of these companies are wrong when they give themselves these massive bonuses or give themselves huge raises. The money that's used to give themselves raises and bonuses should be used to lower the cost of one of their product lines or given back to investors in some form.. either a dividend or rebate or something similar.
I don't agree with what the high ups do to further themselves; but at the same time I don't think taxing these corporations and small businesses is the answer. Because ultimately they will still take what they want by hurting the people down beneath them.
I never used to be living beyond my means. Yet I work more and have less bills and it's still hard for me to afford to live. I had to move out on my own and I've cut back on much of my needless spending. I have one credit card to be paid off then all my debts will be taken care of. With gas going down that will probably help tremendously. I just hope it will stay down.
There is the answer I was looking for. I guess with all that has been going on it's hard for people to see passed Obama's lower tax for %95 of america. Not to mention worry about whether a tax cut for businesses will actually turn into a trickle down effect or not. I guess everyone feels that the government has been turning their back to the country and just wants change and Obama seems to be the biggest change.
Whoever gets elected, I really hope that things get better. Cause right now I may not be poverty stricken, but it would be nice to be able to afford to actually save some money or even be able to finish college.
I'll just write in Ron Paul. That's what we need to do, start a movement instead of play the politics game.
I'd say you've got that backwards. McCain seemed to roll his eyes and show a lot more frustration when challenged than Obama did. The funny thing about what you said is I was talking the my mother yesterday, who I watched the debate with, and we were discussing how bad of a poker player McCain would be for just this reason. I personally thought that McCain put out a good effort, but Obama still took the win. What I cant stand about McCain is how tries to explain his ideas, it may be that he is simply a bad speaker, but everytime I listen to McCain I walk away feeling like I was just spoken to as if I were a child. McCain is a war hero, his policital stances dont lessen my respect for him in that regard, and sure he's a "maverick", but I just wish he wouldn't talk so much about how his opponent palls around with terrorist's, or is involved with voter registration fraud, and tell us SPECIFICALLY what he's going to do. His rhetoric sounds good too, because John McCain knows how to fix the economy, and John McCain knows how we can win in Iraq and Afghanistan, and John McCain knows how to creat jobs, and reliable alternative energy, and a newly structured housing market. But since his nomination I haven't heard him be very specific on how. Obama does this sort of thing too on occasion. However when Obama speaks, he speaks to the people in an inteligent and professional way. That shows me that not all American politics has turned into a game of deception and special intrests, also I feel that he will possess a much more respectable reputation along with more successful diplomacy. McCain lost the debate, and I hope the election, for just this reason. His campaign centers simply on how bad a president Obama would be, and they have been doing this by trying to expose the "real" Barack Obama. A person who die hard conservatives have created by using word manipulation on facts, and his ethnicity. Obama has better plans, a better head on his shoulders, and a better group of strategists. McCain is strongly supported by a large part of America that will never vote for Obama because of his "real" side. These ideas are enforced by both GOP candidates, and that's why these people say he is a secrete muslim who hates America and is ready to overthrow the government and destroy our nation from the inside in 3 weeks. This kind of ignorance baffles me, and at the same time shows us how some parts of this country are populated by ignorant people. Religion, race, and money are three things that dominate our government today. I want to raise my children in a country that is dignified and open enough to elect a president even if he was muslim. With that said, Obama won because he displays more professional and presidential qualities. I respect McCain, but my common sense leans towards Obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by daihashi
how is mccain a war hero?
Yeah, this is why no one wants to give them anymore breaks. So really, if they get higher taxes under Obama it is their own fault for being greedy bastards.Quote:
Originally Posted by daihashi
However, McCain wants to lessen regulation while Obama wants to reinstate regulation. Regulation would probably prevent them from giving themselves these huge bonuses instead of lowering the price of goods.
To answer the last question, McCain isn't a war hero. He just plays that card to try and win votes for no good reason. For all we know, being a POW could have fucked him up in the head and now all he wants is revenge. Although, it could also have straightened him out to realize that war should be the last ditch effort. Although, it does seem like he would be a little too eager to use force.