BREAKING NEWS! McCain is suspending his campaign and is asking Obama to do the same!

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Originally Posted by dragonrider

Daihashi and I are very "spirited" debaters. I hope everyone else finds it as entertaining as I do. Speaking for myself, even though I hate it here sometimes and threaten to leave, I love it too, and I can't stay away!

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I do it all in good nature, but judging from negative feedback from people who refuse to read my posts for just words instead of applying their own emotions to it I doubt others see it that way.

The most recently basically called me stupid and implied I was a Bush lover, which if anyone would comb over my threads I am anything but the sort. I simply pointed out some fact in this thread that can't be denied.

Contrary to what people might think.. I don't believe Obama is the root of all evil as some others might think.. I simply think he's not the best direction for this country.

However my posts in this thread were neither really in support of McCain even if they appeared to be, or to Bash Obama. In all honesty it was to point out that even though this was a political move by McCain there is some very real truth in it. Far too often we let politicians not do their job.

As I said earlier this was one time I was glad to see politics being played because I felt it might actually get people to do their job; especially with there being a conflict with the House. In all honesty the presidential candidates may help to bring a compromise to the situation. With that said I do feel it's important for both Obama and McCain to do their jobs as senators FIRST, and then candidates second.. but never as a president or implied president. We have a sitting president and honestly whether you like him or not you have to respect that the Position of President is still filled until the beginning of 2009.

So everyone if you want to bash me go for it. As some people on here who know me on a more personal level; because of my own life philosophy, it really doesn't impact me as much as you would like to believe.

This message was more of a clarification of what the message I was trying to bring across. I have admittingly been edgey, but I don't feel I've been an ass or condescending, due to personal ailments that I won't get into as this is my own business and I do not want to use this as an excuse... So if people are offended I apologize for that but not for the contents/substance of what I said.

If you don't like me.. eh, that's your problem (not directed at you dragonrider. I know that you and I would probably actually be friends in real life.. politics aside that is. :hippy:)

Reports indicate McCain has eventually decided to participate in the debates, according to live leak on CNN. (@ 10:27 AM CST)

cannot provide any links, it was said in the headlines on live video just after Reid's press conference.

there ya go

McCain will show up for debate, campaign says - CNN.com

OXFORD, Mississippi (CNN) -- Sen. John McCain will attend the first presidential debate as planned Friday night, his campaign announced.

McCain said earlier this week he would not attend the debate if an agreement had not been reached on a $700 billion bailout plan for Wall Street.

The outcome was up in the air Friday as lawmakers scrambled to agree on a plan.

But by midday, McCain's campaign said the Republican presidential nominee believed enough progress had been made for him to travel to Mississippi to participate in the debate, set for 9 p.m. ET at the University of Mississippi campus.

"He is optimistic that there has been significant progress toward a bipartisan agreement now that there is a framework for all parties to be represented in negotiations, including Rep. [Roy] Blunt as a designated negotiator for House Republicans," the campaign said in a statement.

"The McCain campaign is resuming all activities and the senator will travel to the debate this afternoon."

Both presidential candidates -- McCain and Democratic Sen. Barack Obama -- returned to Washington Thursday to participate in talks over the bailout package.

The debate is expected to focus on foreign policy and national security, but the economic crisis is likely to be a dominant issue as well.

Debate planners got a big surprise when McCain called for postponing it. The university has invested millions of dollars preparing for it.

Obama's campaign had argued over the past couple of days that both attending the presidential debate and working on the bailout plan could be accomplished and the event should go on.
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"I think we can do both of these things at the same time. The next president is going to face multiple crises on the same day," Robert Gibbs, Obama's top adviser, had said on CNN's "American Morning."

"We've got a presidential debate scheduled. We've got a stage. We'll have an audience. My guess is we'll have a moderator and at least one of the presidential candidates," Gibbs said.
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HAAA! I just won 50 bucks over this... wagers are the way to go on politics... the only way i can actually benefit from them!!!:D:thumbsup:

goes towards my investment for the grow;)

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Originally Posted by daihashi

If you don't like me.. eh, that's your problem (not directed at you dragonrider. I know that you and I would probably actually be friends in real life.. politics aside that is. :hippy:)

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You're a good guy Daihashi, even if we disagree on almost everything political! What would be the fun if everyone agreed on everything anyway? I like having the other opinions around, even if the other opinions actually piss me off a bit!

I'm sorry to hear that someone gave you negative rep over your point of view --- that's not really cool. I don't think I've ever given anyone negative rep except once a long time ago in a thread where some of the members got extremely nasty, insulting, hateful and personal. The whole thread got taken down, and that person got banned. Since then I've never bothered with negative rep. The mods do a good job of cleaning that kind of stuff up, so I don't worry about it. I'll respond in the thread if I feel I have to. Or if the post is a gross violation of rules, such as racism or outright name calling or personal insults, I'll report it and let a mod decide what to do if anything --- but I can't even remember the last time I did that.

This is a politics forum, so it is a place for widely varying opinions and sometimes strong disagreement. But the opinions can be argued on their merits (with a little trash talk on the side, because there is an election to win after all!)

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Originally Posted by dragonrider

You're a good guy Daihashi, even if we disagree on almost everything political! What would be the fun if everyone agreed on everything anyway? I like having the other opinions around, even if the other opinions actually piss me off a bit!

I'm sorry to hear that someone gave you negative rep over your point of view --- that's not really cool. I don't think I've ever given anyone negative rep except once a long time ago in a thread where some of the members got extremely nasty, insulting, hateful and personal. The whole thread got taken down, and that person got banned. Since then I've never bothered with negative rep. The mods do a good job of cleaning that kind of stuff up, so I don't worry about it. I'll respond in the thread if I feel I have to. Or if the post is a gross violation of rules, such as racism or outright name calling or personal insults, I'll report it and let a mod decide what to do if anything --- but I can't even remember the last time I did that.

This is a politics forum, so it is a place for widely varying opinions and sometimes strong disagreement. But the opinions can be argued on their merits (with a little trash talk on the side, because there is an election to win after all!)

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VERY glad this one is squared away and I argree with ya 100%; there is NO need for negative rep based on a post or opinion in this forum. EVERYBODY has the right to his/her opinion and it should be respected. I may not agree with a few in here but hey, if we always agreed that wouldn't hold much water for an exchange of thoughts.

My MAJOR concern as that we didn't have another situation like what happened in here a week ago. Positive rep for both of ya!!:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

By the way, it was just on the news that McCain is on his way to the debate!!! LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

VERY glad this one is squared away and I argree with ya 100%; there is NO need for negative rep based on a post or opinion in this forum. EVERYBODY has the right to his/her opinion and it should be respected. I may not agree with a few in here but hey, if we always agreed that wouldn't hold much water for an exchange of thoughts.

My MAJOR concern as that we didn't have another situation like what happened in here a week ago. Positive rep for both of ya!!:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

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Excellent!

Now, I can still poke him if he gets irritable, right? Sometimes I like to poke people when they get irritable...

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

Indeed.

*puts on big foam number #1 finger and a foam obama smiling mask*

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That's the difference between some in here and myself; I'd just as soon put on a foam shoe to kick them BOTH in the ass!:mad:

Have a good one!:s4:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

By the way, it was just on the news that McCain is on his way to the debate!!! LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

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Speaking of games, I was going to do a smoking game with a hit each time McCain says "My Friends..," but I actually want to see the end.

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

Glad to see you guys hug and makeup, but let's keep this about McCain and how this is going to effect his campaign. Looks like it didn't work out the way he had hoped. :stoned:

Obama: Over 9,000
McCain: ... who's counting?

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Yes, it was a total disaster (the McCain theatrics, not the hug and make up thing).

I don't think this worked for him at all. Most people thought it was stupid to suggest skipping the debates. It pissed off a lot of people in Mississippi who had spent millions of dollars and volunteer hours putting the debate together. And mostly it does not look like he helped to get a bailout deal together in Washington --- in fact, mostly it seems like he blew up a deal that was ready to go. He seems erratic.