Coming to Cali....what county to move to?

^ one more thing, take security very seriously when choosing a lot, if its too close to too many people its only a matter of time till some little asshole hikes/dirtbikes near your property and sees your grow and starts getting ideas. the further away from civilization the better.

also make sure the plot gets lots of sun, not just that its south facing. make sure the trees and hills dont block too much sun in the mornings and evenings, the sooner in the day the sun directly shines on your plants the bigger they will get.

there are only four things ganja needs to grow; fresh air, clean phed water, decent soil, and DIRECT sunlight.

Stealth......keep one thing in mind.

Follow the WRITTEN laws....this is your freedom at stake here.

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Originally Posted by allrollsin21

and which counties are these? Neither Humboldt or Mendocino allows growing of cannabis for recreational use.

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uh, looks like your wrong about mendocino at least...

US CA: Curb On Growing Marijuana Sought

^ thats a news article from earlier this year, and i know that the amendments to curb the growing didnt pass.

i KNOW thats not the only county like that, i read about them all the time (i read lots of legal journals and articles), thats how you know whos REALLY lax with the budha.

see in 2000 the cali courts ruled that prop 215 was the MINIMUM that cali resident are entitled to in terms of medical marijuana, not the max or a guidline like a lot of conservative area were trying to argue. at that time a good number of areas were fighting the medical marijuana movment.

but unfortunatly for them the courts reminded them that prop 215 IS actualy a REAL california statute voted into law by a majority of california voters that courts, cops, judges, and juries have to abide by.

see, prop 215 is vauge, it just says "yeh you can grow bud if your sick, at least this much, BUT INDIVIDUAL COUNTIES CAN EXPAND ON IT!!!" its that provision in prop 215 in so many words that allows for mendocino to allow for recreational growing.

mendacino cops = cant arrest you for recreatinal growing of up to 25 plants

cali state cops = can arrest you for recreational growing and/or if you are over your counties limit, but they wont unless you are obviously a kingpin or something, because prop 215 also allows you to get your card retroactivly to avoid prosecution, so its almost not even worth it.

dea/ federales = these are the dudes who you have to worry about, they LOVE busting commercial ops in the emerald triangle, but again if you are under the limit and obviously not making huge bank off it they probably wont even fuck with you. AT MOST they would probably kill all your plants. having a card WILL make a diference to the dea/federales more than if you just say "yeh in medocino you can grow for recreation so i just said fuck it."


if anyone wants to hire me as a ganja law consultant hit me up, seems like even people in cali dont know the cali pot laws.

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Originally Posted by geoluv

i know for a fact that at least a few counties in cali are like this, i KNOW humbolt is like this and maybe medacino.

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Well Mendocino voters just gave up the Measure G victory from 2000 by voting yes for Measure B last month. Measure B repealed the 25 plant limit and once again the state MMJ limits are to be enforced. Too bad, Mendo is a great place.... :(

I know geoluv means well, but you gotta check the FACTS before making statements when it comes to this stuff.... :wtf: He is right about security and south facing property, but is totally off mark about the LAW.

California: County Officials Finalize Mendocino Vote Count - NORML

MVP :cool:

true sorry, that was pretty recent though i thought i followed the cali pot news pretty well.

plus right in that article it says that the cali courts overturned similar limits that were imposed in other counties trying to scale back the growing.

plus i have a hard time beleiving that 8 years ago they would legalize weed outright, but now they would seek to cap it. something doesnt compute....

i dont think mendocinos inhabitants got more conservative, i think it just got easier to rig a ballot box:detective1:

it would make sence that they would make the law tighter so they could harrass the area more, under pressure from the feds or state lawmakes trying to make nice with the feds.

geoluv wrote:
"cali state cops = can arrest you for recreational growing and/or if you are over your counties limit, but they wont unless you are obviously a kingpin or something"

please be VERY careful with these statements. You have made a few of them that make it seem as if there is no risk when you are not a "kingpin". This is inaccurate, and i am from CA and i DO have personal experience. I do know people who have had their homes searched and seized for growing within the medicinal limits. I do know people who have been tied up in court for over a year because they were growing medicinally.

The fact is in most parts of CA the Sheriffs will do WTF they want and let the court settle it when the smoke clears. And if they dont have the balls then they will bring a few federal officers along with them.
I just don't want people putting themselves and family UNKNOWINGLY at risk

did any of those people go to jail or loose thier house? because unless they got raided by dea or feds if they were under the limit and had a perscription they cant loose thier house or go to jail under state law unless there was also evidence of dealing to people without perscriptions.

plus when were these raids and what instigated them? its 2008, if they can have billboards for delivery services like "1800gotkush" i find it hard to beleive they would actualy be able to send people to jail for growing 6 plants.

but you are right about how some cops like to arrest everyone and figure out if what they did was legal later. and its hard to sue them for fuckign with you even when you were all nice and legal (although iv seen a succesful suit in CO where the cops didnt return a dudes weed before it died after a raid so they had to give him money to buy more weed). but this is kinda a given, there is always a supercop out there looking for a quick promotion who thinks a quick un-warented grow arrest is the ticket. then the case ends up costing the county (and defendant sometimes) thousands of dollars and ends in dismissal or aquittal because the young supercop decided a possable promotion was more important than the ACTUAL LAW.

im just saying this because even the federal medicinal growing cases i see always end up with some slap on the wrist, at least these days. if you dont have guns and arent doing anything else wrong how is a cali jury going to send you to prison for growing weed? even bush, the president of the united states said in 1999 that states should be left to regulate medical marijuana themselfs. the feds only prosecute people making profit from weed. this is evidenced by the fact that when they raid dispensories they prosecute thier owners but when they bust a co-op with 15,000 plants being grown by hippies they only kill the plants and dont arrest anyone, because the plants wer (usualy) going to be given away to thier respective owners, not sold.

i should revise my statement; there is a chance you could be fucked with for growing even in cali, but as long as you are within the limit and legal you will get off unless they bring down the federal hammer. its the law. prop215 is a STATE LAW and the state is not required to enforce federal law. police can arrest you all they want, doesnt mean the charges are going to stick.

know your rights... knoledge is power. if you know your rights you have just as much power as the police or any judge or jury, you have the power to plan your actions in advance so you are always unquestionably in the right.

sorry i was a month off with the info on medocinos recreational growing law, but how many people reading this thread even knew that mendacino had that from 2000 till 2008? that always boggled my mind, that in mendocino weed was straight up legal and every last resident could have 25 big ol bud bushes chillin in the back yard. bud must cost like 50 bucks an ounce there.

the dea busted a "commercial" grow op there that was being run by an unofficial contender for county sherif.

I appreciate your research and knowledge. I agree with a lot of what you are saying.
ALL i am saying is that unless you are a KINGPIN you probably dont have 15,000 laying around for a lawyer, which even medicinal growers sometimes need to hire.
The cops confiscating your medicine for a year, coming into your home, and throwing you in jail for a even just a night is not a slap on the wrist, and happens quite often.

You are so right, know the law, and follow them...and try to have 15,000 for a lawyer...

Im also lookin to move to norcal. Is it possible to find a house to rent on a little bit of rural land for around 1000 a month or so?

thanks for all your imput guys...I have been reading the SHIT outta all the laws over there....county, state, and even federal records of raids...I know the risks, but to me, the benifits outweigh the consequences...Maybe Im retarded, lol...I plan on staying under the limit, and wont be doing single, large outdoor grows...Ill have a few smaller ones, but not just one giant crop...clones, seedlings, and veg will probably be inside, with the plants going outside for flowering....just some ideas. I didnt say I was thinkin about moving there, I AM moving there....heh.
See all you Californians soon!!!!
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