1st Post - 1st Outdoor Grow - Mighty Freeze

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Originally Posted by Mr.GoodMorning02

wow jake, the lst really looks like it's paying off. those new bud sites are coming along nicely and from the last pics you posted, i'd say the second and third are excellent shots of the new growth.

i'm not sure how long she should flower for, but it looks like those bud sites can use some more time. and sorry to hear about the bugs, little critters can't keep their hands off god's gift either lol.

Hope you and everyone else has a wonderful holiday. enjoy the bbqs and fireworks. take care

-gmorning

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Mr.GoodMorning02, I appreciate your compliments, my friend! You are right in saying the lst is paying off - I am super excited and happy that I finally bent MIQ over, as she has really taken off! I agree with you that she has a bit longer to go; I'm thinking maybe another 4 weeks, but I will just watch her develop to see. I'm thinking about giving her nutes for another 2 weeks, then just putting her on a water diet to clean her out prior to harvest.

As for the bugs - I can't agree with you more, as I can't blame the bugs for doing exactly what I want to do. I hope you had an incredible 4th and are still enjoying your weekend! Be good out there!

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Originally Posted by lunarose

Jake,

She is looking fine, being on the shorter side of life myself I say there is nothing wrong with a little stuntiness(VBG)

I haven't done a grow log yet. I am planning on picking up some clones next week,I have never grown from clones before so I may start one then. I haven't had very many grows the one I have now is my 4th and my first was a total disaster ended up killing 6 out of 7 and the seventh was pretty pathetic. I had a few grows in the 70s and 80s and growing then was so much easier! I'd just throw a couple seeds in a pot filled with whatever dirt I picked up, no nutes, watered whenever. Now I worry about everything!

Good luck with the seeds hopefully they'll make it to you this time. I always stress whenever I order seeds....which strains so many to choose from......should I order enough to last me a couple of grows knowing that I only have one outdoor grow a year so the seeds might not be used for a couple of years or do I order just enough for one grow and hope the seeds make it next time around....sigh really I am not anal(G)

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I agree there is nothing wrong with being short; my Mom is a tiny lady, but she is tough as nails. She never had a problem keeping me under control, even though I'm almost 1' taller than she is. And, MIQ appears to be healthy, which is all I could have asked for on my first grow.

I can see how in this day and age of so many products out there, it's really hard to complete a grow. One wrong move with one wrong product, and your plant can be a goner. If I were you, I'd go back to the throwing a seed in a bucket and just giving it the bare essentials - water and sunlight. I've jumped in here and there and provided additional nutrients, but mostly I've tried to stand to the side and watch MIQ grow. It has been a difficult lesson in patience for me, because I've wanted her to do more, grow faster, and produce more - but, it was not her path. Allowing her to follow her own genetic predisposition has so far allowed her to lead a relatively healthy life. I hope she continues on her path!

I also know what you are talking about with seed ordering. I'm like a kid in a candy store - it's so hard to choose from all the amazing strains. If and when I get mine, I'll have to start a new log for them. It's getting late in the season, but I think I have enough of a season left in my neck of the woods.

Be good out there! It was good hearing from you again, luna!

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Originally Posted by GreenLeaf420

Really nice looking Tight Plants. The Nodes can not be more closer:thumbsup:

Good Luck GL

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GreenLeaf420! I appreciate your stopping by and leaving some compliments, bro! As short as MIQ is, it's nice she has developed so tightly, providing for an increase in yield while remaining vertically challenged. I'm really interested to see how dense her buds are upon harvest. I have not really touched them to this point, as I have not wanted to knock any trichs off.

Take good care out there, amigo, and drop back by anytime!

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Originally Posted by anbesol

Beautiful! Im sure your plant will be fine, i have heard that auto flowering cannabis strains are stronger plants. But that could have been complete bull shit since i read it on another forum.

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anbesol! Thanks for stopping by, my friend! I appreciate your comment and reassurance MIQ will be fine following her recent pest issue. I just checked on her after a few days absence, and she appears perfectly fine. It rained again while I was gone, serving to flush her bucket from the floweirng nutes I had just added on Thursday. But, I can't really complain, as she does appear awfully healthy! I'll have to check into the autoflower hardiness possibility - it has been pretty darn easy raising MIQ, and I wouldn't mind future, easy grows!

Thanks again for stopping by, and for reading my log. Come on back by to check in on MIQ, as her days are numbered!

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Originally Posted by Jerry Garcia 2007

Looking good Jake,

I read a few posts back that you were thinking of using Mollasses.

Don't!!! My past experiance is it causes nute lock. your plants look healthy right now. Do not change a thing you are doing in your nute program except start adding a finishing nute like Fox Farm Cha-Ching.

LOL JG

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JG, I am excited you stopped by to provide me some insight into the use of mollasses! I was considering it, as it appeared to really help people get a big boost. I hate to hear you did not have good luck with it, but your experience has certainly helped me make up my mind. I like to try to keep things simple anyway, so not adding mollasses to the mix will help me do so! Thanks again for your insight, and for stopping by my log!

I hope all is well with you and yours and you enjoy the rest of your weekend!

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Originally Posted by camoxnhx

so im just in awe right now jake... that mighty freeze is getting desiel!! thats gonna be a awsome yeild and smoke! im so intreged. Thanks for all your help and your info!

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camoxnhx! Dude, I am certain your Mazar and LR2s will be looking even better than MIQ. I am getting excited about MIQ's final days, but I have to temper my excitement with patience, as she will have a couple of weeks, at least, of drying and curing following harvest. I know I will not want to wait, but I have heard some terrible stories of good bud gone bad due to failure to properly cure. I can't wait to update you and everyone else on the yield and smoke! And, I really don't have much experience or knowledge to impart for your grow, but will always give freely of what I have - until I am told to keep my trap shut!

I hope you are having a great weekend, and let's hope the remaining day and 1/2 will actually last awhile instead of racing by! Be good out there, my friend!

Jake,

You know I just realized your Mighty is an autoflowering strain that being the case your girl isn't stunted at all. The autoflowering strains are small they are suppose to go from seed to harvest in something like 8 weeks and only reach about 1-2ft so she is just perfect.

So what seeds did you decide on? I have always been partial to the white widow because it is one of the easier ones to grow and have a decent yield. I want to try PPP, Ice, Jack Hera and maybe a land race indica..... I just got three clones today so I may be starting a grow log.

luna, thanks for straightening me out on MIQ. I have not even though about that very logical fact! That makes perfect sense! I had read somewhere that others' Mighty Freeze strains grow upwards of 5', but being that they are autoflowerers, I don't see how that is possible, since so much energy is automatically shifted to flowering rather than vegetative growth at a certain time. Who knows? Maybe after a few more grows and years of experience under my belt, I'll come to know and understand more.

As for the beans, I ordered Nirvana's PPP (again), Nirvana's Bubblicious, and Seedsman's Colombian Red Haze. I'm really looking forward to the Red Haze, as it's 80% sativa, and I've really been wanting to try a good sativa! I was doing some reading today about a "Dalat" strain of sativa from Vietnam - may have to track some of that down!

What strains are your 3 clones? You should start a log up - I'd love to follow it! Thanks for stopping by again!

While I'm awaiting the arrival of my pedigree beans, my bro-in-law and sister were kind enough to share 8 bagbeans with me. I began germinating 4 of them on Saturday, and they are beginning to pop. They should be ready for jiffy pellets in the next day or 2 - we'll see where they take me.

I don't know much about the genetics of the bagweed. It was pretty darn good for being as cheap as he got it. It appeared to be some commercial bricked weed. It was a nice relaxing bud, from what I could tell - we were busy mixing it with some bud a friend of mine gave me (his stuff is wicked - same friend that gave me the Mighty Freeze).

Also, MIQ seems to have really slowed her pistil development while her buds have been elongating. Does anyone know if such development, or lack thereof, is normal? I guess maybe she will begin producing pistils/more pistils again once she starts fattening her buds up? I'm just a little curious - I'll search around for an answer to these questions too, just in case no one comments on them.

Anyway, I'll keep everyone updated with MIQ and the new beans - both those ordered and those sprouting.

Alright, so I have a lot of questions now that I have done a bit more investigating about the bud elongation issue MIQ is having. Her buds look like a braided rope, as the calyxes have not opened for pistils to "flower" out. I am not certain I have anything to be concerned with at this point, but thought I would document this issue for future reference.

I was doing a bit of reading in my 2d office, and came across a term, "stacking calyxes," in a discussion of bud development and the concept of additional flowering phases. Since MIQ has been flowering for some time, this article made sense to me, and I reached a preliminary conclusion that due to the lst'ing and additional vegetative stage MIQ experienced which served to slow/halt her flowering cycle, MIQ is now entering a 2d flowering phase, causing her to elongate her buds through this stacking of calyxes.

However, when I searched the board this morning, I came across this thread - http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-gr...acking+calyxes. It seems to highlight MIQ's issue and the experienced growers and powers that be conclusively determined the issue to be the result of heat stress. The pictures in the thread were not the greatest, due to grow room lighting, so I couldn't really compare them to MIQ. I will post pictures of her within this reply for comparison purposes and to allow/encourage comments/suggestions.

MIQ has been outside from about Day 13 of her life, and the temperatures have remained fairly constant - in the high 80's to mid 90's. Since she has experienced the heat from the beginning of her life and has not had an issue to this point in time, I hope heat stress is not the cause of these stacking calyxes. I am going to do a bit more research on this issue to hopefully come up with an answer for myself. However, any and all input/suggestions/advice is welcomed and will be appreciated.

Here are the pictures which should clearly show the stacking calyxes on MIQ. I've also thrown in a picture of some gerbera daisies. My wife took the picture, and I really like it. Since several outdoor growers I appreciate have thrown in pictures of their natural surroundings, such picture is my feeble attempt to reciprocate.

Thanks again for any light you can shed on this stacking calyxes issue.

I think there is nothing wrong whit your MIQ. That is some secondary growth, which is normal for Mighty Mite. I found some info which says that in 6-8 week of flowering MM buds "explode"....which means the buds show some new growth....MM is a indica/ruderalis hybrid...
I think MIQ is a little confused because she has started to flower before it would be normal, and now that the days are getting shorter she is flowering for the second time....imo....it is normal for this strain...she will keep on flowering for some time and than you will be able to harvest some nice buds...
So, keep up the great work my friend....I'm really exited about the new seeds you ordered, those are some awesome strains....it will be a great show...:thumbsup:
And the daisies are beautiful.....thanks.....:hippy:

zebulon, you TOTALLY ROCK! I truly appreciate you taking time to answer my questions. You've given me clear, concise answers to all of the questions that have plagued me throughout this, my first grow. You have gone the extra mile, and for that I am extremely grateful, my friend! Thanks!

Hey, no problem Jake....i'm happy i could help...i really like this log, it will be great when your seeds arrive and you gonna grow out those lovely strains....can't wait to see it...:hippy:
And MIQ looks really great and frosty, it will be some premium quality herb for sure....

hell yah. :thumbsup: way up.

that bud looks like hightimes worthy.

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Originally Posted by zebulon

Hey, no problem Jake....i'm happy i could help...i really like this log, it will be great when your seeds arrive and you gonna grow out those lovely strains....can't wait to see it...:hippy:
And MIQ looks really great and frosty, it will be some premium quality herb for sure....

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Thanks for the compliments to MIQ, zeb! I hope to be able to show you a grow with the new beans - I'm keeping my fingers crossed as they should be here in the next couple of days. Thanks again for all of your help!

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Originally Posted by hydrocannabis

hell yah. :thumbsup: way up.

that bud looks like hightimes worthy.

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hydro, thanks much for that amazing compliment! I don't know about being High Times worthy, as there are better candidates on this board for certain; but, I truly appreciate your sentiment, my friend! I need to drop by to see how all of your lovely ladies are doing! You have quite a few on your hands. Thanks for stopping by!