He's not really pro-life. He believes that it shouldn't be a federal decision. Instead each state should be able to make the laws regarding to abortion.
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He's not really pro-life. He believes that it shouldn't be a federal decision. Instead each state should be able to make the laws regarding to abortion.
He is personally pro-life, and his stated views on abortion have hit me the wrong way. I don't believe at all that it should be up to the states, it leaves the possibility of incredibly dangerous circumstances to happen when access to safe and legal abortions is restricted.Quote:
Originally Posted by rebgirl420
As I stated, this is how I personally feel.
He sounds VERY pro-life based on his belief that, "Pro-life libertarians have a vital task to perform: to persuade the many abortion-supporting libertarians of the contradiction between abortion and individual liberty; and, to sever the mistaken connection in many minds between individual freedom and the 'right' to extinguish individual life."
And this, referring to abortion:
"Unlike Nazi Germany, which forcibly sent millions to the gas chambers (as well as forcing abortion and sterilization upon many more), the new regime has enlisted the assistance of millions of people to act as its agents in carrying out a program of mass murder."
The above quotations are from an essay he wrote:
Being Pro-Life Is Necessary to Defend Liberty
I wish he was our pres but not a chance so i voted for the young guy. You say your yet to decide does that mean you didnt vote at all cause the mass nomination is over... If you didnt vote that makes me angry when people dont vote.
So do you think it's ok to make it a crime to rectify a criminal act like rape or incest? To put into practice, a law removing the health of the mother as a consideration? This takes away the rights of the woman, and is thus placing them in a subordinate position, with fewer rights than the unborn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
The Catholic church feels the same way about birth control. Should we consider banning that, too? To restrict the rights of those who chose to avoid pregnancy altogether? Birth Control and the Catholic Church
In theory I oppose habitual abortion, especially when it is a result of socialy unprotected encounters, but I do support a womans need to have options. Does nobody remember the "back-alley" abortion clinics that killed so many women in the past? You make a law prohibiting doctors from preforming the operation, and more women (and fetus') will suffer.
Where did I say that I was against abortion? I was just pointing out what Ron Paul has stated regarding his beliefs on the matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome
Most people here are too young to remember coat hangers and back-alley abortions.
If Paul gets his way, those that can afford to travel to states where it is still legal will have the advantage, while the poor will have to suffer the consequences of this law.
The next step probably will be to make it a federal crime again, but the anti-choice legislators won't admit to that at this point.
It's easy to point the finger at Ron Paul and call him a weirdo or unrealistic. It's a lot easier to sit at your PC (or Apple, I suppose) and fire off obscenities at those who disagree with you....
But I have another suggestion:
If Ron Paul isn't exactly what we need, shouldn't the question be what DO what we need? I mean, it's obvious he doesn't have a shred of a prayer of winning...right? So why beat a dead horse?
We all want cannabis legal, we all want to stop hiding from one of our most favored habits...but are we going to just assume everything else will be handled fine in the process? Remember, this isn't for drug czar, this is for the president. I believe it's important to be educated on the issues enough that a response to someone speaking negatively about your preferred candidate isn't just laden with crap. Try not getting so excited because some of you can finally vote.
I'm gonna go roll a blunt and watch CNN. It's funnier than Comedy Central. :420thought:
Before we can worry about legalizing cannibis, there are too many other socio-economic problems that need to be delt with.... Somebody sent this to me onna E-mail this morning (providence??). Anyway, if *ANY* of the candidates were to lay it out like this, I would vote for them in a heart beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by HyeLife
WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO TURN ON THE TV AND HEAR ANY U.S. PRESIDENT, DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN GIVE THE FOLLOWING SPEECH?
â?? My Fellow Americans: As you all know, the defeat of the Iraq regime has been completed.
Since congress does not want to spend any more money on this war, our mission in Iraq is complete.
This morning I gave the order for a complete removal of all American forces from Iraq This action will be complete within 30 days. It is now time to begin the reckoning.
Before me, I have two lists. One list contains the names of countries which have stood by our side during the Iraq conflict. This list is short . The United Kingdom, Spain , Bulgaria , Australia, and Poland are some of the countries listed there.
The other list contains every one not on the first list. Most of the world's nations are on that list. My press secretary will be distributing copies of both lists later this evening.
Let me start by saying that effective immediately, foreign aid to those nations on List 2 ceases immediately and indefinitely. The money saved during the first year alone will pretty much pay for the costs of the Iraqi war. THEN EVERY YEAR THERE AFTER ITâ??ll GO TO OUR SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM SO IT WONT GO BROKE IN 20 YEARS.
The American people are no longer going to pour money into third world Hellholes and watch those government leaders grow fat on corruption.
Need help with a famine? Wrestling with an epidemic? Call France .
In the future, together with Congress, I will work to redirect this money toward solving the vexing social problems we still have at home. On that note, a word to terrorist organizations. Screw with us and we will hunt you down and eliminate you and all your friends from the face of the earth.
Thirsting for a gutsy country to terrorize? Try France or maybe China
I am ordering the immediate severing of diplomatic relations with France, Germany, and Russia . Thanks for all your help, comrades. We are retiring from NATO as well. Bonne chance, mez amies.
I have instructed the Mayor of New York City to begin towing the many UN diplomatic vehicles located in Manhattan with more than two unpaid parking tickets to sites where those vehicles will be stripped, shredded and crushed. I don't care about whatever treaty pertains to this. You creeps have tens of thousands of unpaid tickets. Pay those tickets tomorrow or watch your precious Benzes, Beamers and limos be turned over to some of the finest chop shops in the world. I love New York
A special note to our neighbors. Canada is on List 2. Since we are likely to be seeing a lot more of each other, you folks might want to try not pissing us off for a change.
Mexico is also on List 2 its president and his entire corrupt government really need an attitude adjustment. I will have a couple extra thousand tank s and infantry divisions sitting around. Guess where I am going to put 'em? Yep, border security.
Oh, by the way, the United States is abrogating the NAFTA treaty - starting now.
We are tired of the one-way highway. Immediately, we'll be drilling for oil in Alaska - which will take care of this country's oil needs for decades to come. If you're an environmentalist who opposes this decision, I refer you to List 2 above: pick a country and move there.
It is time for America to focus on its own welfare and its own citizens. Some will accuse us of isolationism. I answer them by saying, "darn tootin."
Nearly a century of trying to help folks live a decent life around the world has only earned us the undying enmity of just about everyone on the planet. It is time to eliminate hunger in America It is time to elimin ate homelessness in America To the nations on List 1, a final thought. Thank you guys. We owe you and we won't forget.
To the nations on List 2, a final thought: You might want to learn to speak Arabic.
God bless America Thank you and good night. â??
If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier.
i believe that any way this election goes, our political system still is controlled by big business, lobbyists, and the good ol' boys who just keep getting older and putting other good ol' boys in positions of power. also, who can forget the "christians" that always seem to have huge impacts on elections. what i like about ron paul is that he actually stands out there and clearly states his views. For example, he wants to end the drug war ( which i bet is why a lot of people on this site soley like him). No other candidate left will ever say this. It's even a struggle for them to say they'll end the medical raids enforced by the DEA. If picking a president was solely a matter of whether or not i want cannabis legalized, hed be my pick. However, i think as americans we all have to take one for the team. There are bigger issues out there than gay marriage, prayer in school, and abortion. The fact of the matter is americans will smoke their cannabis, have abortions, and pray in school if they want to regardless of laws. All the democratic candidates are touting their speeches on "hey america, lets have universal free healthcare yaaaay." where is that money even going to come from. everyone wants to end the war and bring the troops right home. hillary's plan is to just drop everything and bring everyone home within 60 days i think. that tidbit of information is enough for me not to want her in office. whats going to happen after 60 days? "hey iraq, were leaving now. everything's cool right? take care, love USA" Thats going to go over real well. Also, think about when all the troops come home. There is already a problem with troops not being able to get the help they need. And they already get universal free healthcare. Is someone trying to tell me that if the US operates this on a larger scale things are going to get better. As americans it is our duty to think outside the box and outside partylines. Parties are all imaginary and the system is flawed. So many things wrong... And what is obama even going to do? Mr jihad hassan mahmoud barack hussein hamid obama? Oh, thats right. He's an advocate of change. Wow! Whoever gets in office is going to have all the same problems that we are facing now. How are they going to fix the economy when a majority of the problem is in american's hands and credit books?
all in all, our political system depresses me. doesn't anyone else stand for real issues and solutions?
I was asking if those were your positions, based on your highlighted quotes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
If it's an adult crossing those state lines for the previously mentioned reasons, I am in favor of allowing the procedure.
Were it a child without a parent being notified, or giving consent, it's a different story altogether.
Besides the health issues and risk of complications that the parents would be unaware of till it's too late, there's an issue of inappropriate relations...(pedophilia and incest)
(and it continues...) "It is most often an older male who preys on a young girl, impregnates her, and then takes her illegally across state lines to have an abortion without the knowledge and consent of the parents," said pro-life Rep. Jim Barcia (D-Mi.). "It can be dangerous for that child to receive an abortion. Only a parent knows that child's health history, including allergies to medication. A parent should be informed, and the older male should be prosecuted."
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