What scares you most about where the america is headed?
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Originally Posted by BlueCat00
A lot of people feel that Bush is skirting close when it comes to being a dictator. Some of those exec orders really make him look bad.
Laughable.
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Originally Posted by BlueCat00
His latest:
A new Executive Order which allows the government to seize the assets of anyone who interferes with its Iraq policies.
Like Syria, North Korea, Ayman Sabawi (and other insurgent fund raisers)...? Cool.
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Originally Posted by BlueCat00
Or how about this one?
National Security Presidential Directive/NSPD 51 puts the President in charge of ensuring constitutional government for all three branches of government in the case of a catastrophic emergency. So what does this mean?
It means that it puts the President in charge of ensuring constitutional government for all three branches of government. This assigns responsibility to the sitting president to promptly fill positions recently vacated by catastrophy, so as to not interfere with day to day operation of the government. This does not give him the authority to run those three arms of government himself.
Someone didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
What scares you most about where the america is headed?
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Originally Posted by 8182KSKUSH
Hey I got the pic after all!
The rich always has to pay more income taxes than the poor. One, it's human for other humans to take care of one or another, that's how we survived for 10,000 of years. Two, the tax they pay grossly disproportional. Look at it as you get rich in the land-of-the-free, capitalistic tax. You drive on their roads, which they clean up and maintain. They regulate the goods you purchase are safe. The function of government is to take care of it's citizens. Not to tell them what to do with their lives, but keep them safe in the background.
Go to a country like France. Imagine paying a 19.6% sales tax. On top of a grossly disproportional income tax, which the rich is heavily taxed. You'll be glad to live with the taxes America has. I suggest you travel a bit before claiming high taxation is the biggest danger in America. This high taxation is at least rewarded with some of the best government services on the land: adequate public transportation, health care for citizens, etc..
The US government is highly mismanaged, and prone to waste, fraud and abuse. The solution isn't to cut or raise taxes. It's to learn to manage assets more efficiently. It's time to privitize sections of the government, allowing more private enterprise to compete to provide government services to it's citizens. But let's not kid ourselves, we should not pay less taxes because the government isn't producing results. The government simply has to become more accountable.
What scares you most about where the america is headed?
its not that Americans are spend thrifts or greedy, they dont want no hand outs from anyone !, its Americans
own money, they want back. The money they worked for, money the gov takes! give Americans, free groceries! not soylent 'crackers', groceries are way too, high priced!
Mills and manufacturing have went by the wayside because
of 'partnership for a drug free America" pissheads, they cant keep the workers! The best ones are getting tested for stupid reasons!
the best workers are getting fired for failed drug test
give Americans a friggin break!
stay out of our dam underwear!!
:(:mad::hippy::wtf::cool::stoned:
What scares you most about where the america is headed?
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Originally Posted by thcbongman
The rich always has to pay more income taxes than the poor. One, it's human for other humans to take care of one or another, that's how we survived for 10,000 of years. Two, the tax they pay grossly disproportional. Look at it as you get rich in the land-of-the-free, capitalistic tax. You drive on their roads, which they clean up and maintain. They regulate the goods you purchase are safe. The function of government is to take care of it's citizens. Not to tell them what to do with their lives, but keep them safe in the background.
Go to a country like France. Imagine paying a 19.6% sales tax. On top of a grossly disproportional income tax, which the rich is heavily taxed. You'll be glad to live with the taxes America has. I suggest you travel a bit before claiming high taxation is the biggest danger in America. This high taxation is at least rewarded with some of the best government services on the land: adequate public transportation, health care for citizens, etc..
The US government is highly mismanaged, and prone to waste, fraud and abuse. The solution isn't to cut or raise taxes. It's to learn to manage assets more efficiently. It's time to privitize sections of the government, allowing more private enterprise to compete to provide government services to it's citizens. But let's not kid ourselves, we should not pay less taxes because the government isn't producing results. The government simply has to become more accountable.
I personally have no problem with America, and was not claiming that taxes were terrible, just giving Blue a reality check, since she is under the impression that taxes on the "middle class" are such a burden? Please! Hey Blue, yet another example of you regurgitating popular news media myths!!!:thumbsup: Every time you post you help me prove my point. Keep on though, blame America, blame Bush!!!! You are right on thcbongman!!!
Yeah, I was simply pointing out that it seems pretty unreasonable to ask the top 50% of income earners to pay more, how much should they pay, 99.9%? Who is that money used for? I am just guessing here, but I am betting that the bottom 50% that pay a whapping 3% of all the income taxes probably benifit a whole hell of lot more from the top 50% income taxes than the people that actually pay them. Can we say "redistributing wealth". And of course, my point to blue was when is enough enough? Will you only be happy when the top 50% pay 99.9%? When will people start taking some personal responsibility for themselves? YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!! AMERICA DOES NOT OWE YOU ANYTHING!!!!! YOU ARE FREE TO LEAVE ANYTIME IF YOU THINK THAT IT IS SO BAD HERE!!!
What scares you most about where the america is headed?
So youve never lived in another country and yet u claim to live in the worlds best country LMAO.Well growing up in a country where the education system is a mess doesnt surprise me one bit that you would feel that way.But facts are facts your country is by far the best on this planet.Your economy is a house of cards you spend more on military budgets than most of the world put together your running a 400 billion dollar deficit just to keep your country afloat.As far as me paying high taxes yes i do but someone has to pay for our education system out health care system and all the other things that come with living in a great country such as Canada.Also if you would of read my post i never said our health care is soooooo super duper but i guess we can blame your education on that one too.......P.S how do u like living in the worlds biggest police state...............
What scares you most about where the america is headed?
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Originally Posted by fishman3811
So youve never lived in another country and yet u claim to live in the worlds best country LMAO.Well growing up in a country where the education system is a mess doesnt surprise me one bit that you would feel that way.But facts are facts your country is by far the best on this planet.Your economy is a house of cards you spend more on military budgets than most of the world put together your running a 400 billion dollar deficit just to keep your country afloat.As far as me paying high taxes yes i do but someone has to pay for our education system out health care system and all the other things that come with living in a great country such as Canada.Also if you would of read my post i never said our health care is soooooo super duper but i guess we can blame your education on that one too.......P.S how do u like living in the worlds biggest police state...............
So let me ask you this "all knowing", how many Americans immigrated to Canada in the last 10 years? How many Canadians immigrated to the U.S.? Any questions?
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I don't expect an answer, since it will only support my claim that America is the GREATEST COUNTRY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, but I guess you could claim that ALL the Canadians that immigrate here do so because they want a less fulfilling, much scarier life?:wtf:
What scares you most about where the america is headed?
oh i will live in my world keeps me prepared for anything:D able to adapt, i feel sorry for people who cant open there mind when things change there up a shit creek :jointsmile:. just saying i dont like people saying this country is the greatest because thats only a opinion not a fact and a brainwashed opinon at that :thumbsup:. Thats what did in germany hitler and all his followers saying "im better than you" soon mostly all the world was against them and i see the same thing happening with us over the years our country thinks were the shit and supirior to everyone when its all just an illusion. What is a fact is america thinks its the world police. have you heard there trying to ban fat people eating at resturants damn! i thought the drug war would make the fascists happy now they want MORE POWER. Even if its in a particular state thats just stupid.
What scares you most about where the america is headed?
8182skush, you wanna talk about taxes? I make 13,000 dollars per year in my only contract, and I get taxed at more than 10% to the IRS, I just paid $2400 for a yearly property tax, my car tax is around $100, I pay 8.25% sales tax on all non-grocery items I need, $0.50 cents on each gallon of gas I use to go to work. I do have some debt I'm working on clearing up, but here I am unable to buy food and I'm paying taxes out the wazoo. For lunch and dinner today I ate hash browns and french fries that my housesitter left in my freezer when I had to go visit some family. What do I get for all these taxes? A war in Iraq which I can't see any benefit from, the roadways which aren't toll roads yet, and mail delivery (Although even that should technically be paid for independently of government funding, but I don't believe that for a minute). So tell me we are not taxed too much.. ! As far as descending into fascism, most people don't care because no one does anything that any dictator would ever want to restrict. Even Hitler would let people watch football, eat wurst, and drink beer as long as they were in the right class. The only difference is that we now realize that everyone's money is equal, so racial discrimination is just impractical. If most people enjoyed intellectual exercise..... whoo boy, we'd see some rollin' and shakin' in this country. :) Thankfully the schools have done brainectomies on all the students so they won't have to worry about all that stinky-thinky. Remember, a freeman is just like a slave except you don't have to whip him. He'll whip himself for you with a smile on his face, and thank you for giving him dirty water. His shackles are imaginary, but he refuses to imagine a rasp.
What scares you most about where the america is headed?
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Originally Posted by O. G. ganja smoker
oh i will live in my world keeps me prepared for anything:D able to adapt, i feel sorry for people who cant open there mind when things change there up a shit creek :jointsmile:. just saying i dont like people saying this country is the greatest because thats only a opinion not a fact and a brainwashed opinon at that :thumbsup:. Thats what did in germany hitler and all his followers saying "im better than you" soon mostly all the world was against them and i see the same thing happening with us over the years our country thinks were the shit and supirior to everyone when its all just an illusion. What is a fact is america thinks its the world police. have you heard there trying to ban fat people eating at resturants damn! i thought the drug war would make the fascists happy now they want MORE POWER. Even if its in a particular state thats just stupid.
So um, let me see if I have this right, I don't have an open mind because I don't agree with you? I am not entitled to my opinion because I don't agree with you? Ok, glad we got that cleared up. And by the way, what YOU THINK of America, that's also, just an opinion.:D
What scares you most about where the america is headed?
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Originally Posted by JD1stTimer
8182skush, you wanna talk about taxes? I make 13,000 dollars per year in my only contract, and I get taxed at more than 10% to the IRS, I just paid $2400 for a yearly property tax, my car tax is around $100, I pay 8.25% sales tax on all non-grocery items I need, $0.50 cents on each gallon of gas I use to go to work. I do have some debt I'm working on clearing up, but here I am unable to buy food and I'm paying taxes out the wazoo. For lunch and dinner today I ate hash browns and french fries that my housesitter left in my freezer when I had to go visit some family. What do I get for all these taxes? A war in Iraq which I can't see any benefit from, the roadways which aren't toll roads yet, and mail delivery (Although even that should technically be paid for independently of government funding, but I don't believe that for a minute). So tell me we are not taxed too much.. ! As far as descending into fascism, most people don't care because no one does anything that any dictator would ever want to restrict. Even Hitler would let people watch football, eat wurst, and drink beer as long as they were in the right class. The only difference is that we now realize that everyone's money is equal, so racial discrimination is just impractical. If most people enjoyed intellectual exercise..... whoo boy, we'd see some rollin' and shakin' in this country. :) Thankfully the schools have done brainectomies on all the students so they won't have to worry about all that stinky-thinky. Remember, a freeman is just like a slave except you don't have to whip him. He'll whip himself for you with a smile on his face, and thank you for giving him dirty water. His shackles are imaginary, but he refuses to imagine a rasp.
Last I checked, property taxes are not federal. Niether are sales taxes, and if you pay taxes on a contract or commission, then you have Bill Clinton to thank for that, 1996, ring a bell?:thumbsup:
