Opie Yutts I need your help friend
Sorry guys but i have a few more questions..with pictures.
Heres some haze i got today
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...7/DSC02176.jpg
First off one of hte leaves completely fell off today..
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...7/DSC02173.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...7/DSC02148.jpg
How bad is that? The rest of the plant looks pretty good..pic of the roots..
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...7/DSC02155.jpg
The roots exploded just in the last day or so...But only the two plants that i put in their own buckets..I'm using 2 gal buckets now..the roots are so damn long that they are touching the bottom of the buckets..Is this bad? As you can see in the pic below ive lowered the water level drastically so as little of the roots as possible are sitting in the water...Is this a big deal? SHould i go to bigger buckets? That would really suck...
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...7/DSC02154.jpg
I need help guys!!!!!
ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY THAT HAS COMMENTS, CRITICISMS AND SUGGESTIONS PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CHIME IN!!!! ITS MUCH APPRECIATED
The two that were in the starter bucket were the two that the roots were turning brown..i think it was because of lack of moisture..i believe they were starting to die...they are in they're own buckets as of tonight..pics below..hopefully they'll bounce back like the others..
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...7/DSC02096.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...7/DSC02156.jpg
THanks everybody!!!!!
Opie Yutts I need your help friend
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Originally Posted by GodBud
I was just wondering if there was a correlation between the leaf sets to showing sex. For example, is there a trend where say the next 1 or 2 nodes after the first set of 9, is when sex will show during the veg cycle. Thats just an example of what I am asking.
Sorry, I'm not sure about that. I've never tried to sex them in veg.
Opie Yutts I need your help friend
quote=GrowMe
..can't do anything that involves ballasts or anything of that nature..I noticed at Home depot they have 75 watt High Pressure Sodium bulbs that appear to screw into a regular size socket..Does it still require a ballast for the smaller HPS bulbs?
All HID lighting needs a ballast. In fact so does fluorescent lighting, it's just included. I suppose it is possible that the ballast is incorporated in with the bulb somehow, but if it doesn't mention anything about that on the package, it aint so and you'll need a 75 W HPS ballast.
What about using this?
z-100 Watt Compact Fluorescent 2700K Warm White - Mogul Base CFL
If i buy this how much more will i need? Basically i'm trying to make the most of hte area i have and funds to spend.. I need to know what hte least amount of watts i can use for a 3.5' x 2.5' x 6' area... 4 plants..
I've seen people grow more than 4 plants with one of those, but I would want a little sumpin sumpin to go with it. That one is 2700K and for budding. I thought I saw somewhere some big ones like that, that are 5500K for vegging, but they are more expensive. Since you want 15% red for vegging and 15% blue for budding, you could have your sockets in a fixed position and change to the proper spectrum when you change from veg to bud. I would probably want about 4 other smaller bulbs, or another big one. One 5500 and one 2700K together for both veg and bloom would work pretty well for 4 plants I would think. That would make a little heat though and it would need to be vented somehow if the cabinet is sealed. For a place that small, if it has to hold everything, I guess I would not try HID lighting. I would definitely think hard about the possibilities of a sog or scrog grow in that little space. It is by far the best way to utilize a small space like that. Harvesting twice as often aint bad. You could also grow a little bigger than normal during cloning, skip vegging and go straight to flower. That would cut out the need for a flower section and give you room to keep a mother and cloner (a must in my book for any kind of repetitive harvesting).
Also are any of these PPM meters decent?
- HM TDS-4 METER Digital Thermometer PPM TESTER Hydro New - (eBay item 320190391707 end time Dec-04-07 03:10:27 PST)
- New TDS Meter Reverse Osmosis Reef RO Water PPM Tester - (eBay item 120188891405 end time Dec-02-07 19:32:59 PST)
- HANNA TDS1 TADS Tester/Meter/1, Water Filter/PPM/DI/RO - (eBay item 280176916370 end time Dec-03-07 16:35:14 PST)
- HANNA Primo TDS Meter, PPM Tester, Conductivity - (eBay item 280177712069 end time Dec-05-07 22:16:26 PST)
That last one looks alright. I didn't read everything on those, but I noticed one was from Australia, and one only went to 999. You want ppms of around 1400, so that one might be for an aquarium.
Opie Yutts I need your help friend
quote=GodBud
I have seen those HPS at the depot. ...just ask they are pretty helpful there.
Huh? Well, I suppose, sometimes, if it's not a weekend or something.
Too bad you cant crank a 400 + HID
I suppose if you just had one area 6 feet tall, and the grow wasn't on a shelf or anything, and you vegged and budded in the same area, you might be able to do this with a cool tube or sealed hood and a couple good inline fans. Perhaps 75W or even 150W would be doable in a sog-type set up. Two levels with one HID each. Digital ballasts (for less heat) and inline fans could be mounted in one small section at the top and/or bottom. Mother and clones some small space in 1/4 of a closet somewhere else in the house. However... I'm thinken fluoro, and perhaps I would check into the newer, brighter and more efficient G5 tubes.
I use the Milwaukie SM802 Smart Combined Meter. It rocks!
Yeah, I wish I would have started off that way. Having one for PH and one for PPM aint so bad though.
Opie Yutts I need your help friend
quote=GrowMe
Heres some haze i got today
Looks nice.
First off one of hte leaves completely fell off today..
No biggie, that'll happen from time to time, especially on the lower ones. As long as the rest of the plant is healthy everything is fine.
How bad is that? The rest of the plant looks pretty good..
Not bad, see above.
the roots are so damn long that they are touching the bottom of the buckets..Is this bad?
No biggie, happens all the time. It would be pretty hard to stop it from happening, but there's no reason to.
As you can see in the pic below ive lowered the water level drastically so as little of the roots as possible are sitting in the water...Is this a big deal?
Well it something to think about. I don't know how big of a deal it is. It is very common for roots to be in water. You can have most of your roots in water, as long as you leave at least 4 inches or so that are not (at the top of course). It's best if they can have some in air, but you don't want so much in air that they get dried out. They need to get wet somehow, be it splashing from bubbles popping or intermittent spray jets, or drip from above, or whatever.
SHould i go to bigger buckets?
Did you say you have 5 or 3 gallon buckets? Either way both are plenty for a plant unless you are vegging an abnormally long time.
I need help guys!!!!!
I'm trying.
The two that were in the starter bucket were the two that the roots were turning brown..i think it was because of lack of moisture..i believe they were starting to die...they are in they're own buckets as of tonight..pics below..hopefully they'll bounce back like the others..
Can't exactly tell what happened from the blurry pictures. They usually do bounce back if they aren't too close to death.
Opie Yutts I need your help friend
THANK YOU SOOOOOOO MUCH OPIE!!!!!!!!
You are making this a hell of a lot easier..or at least not as difficult to get my questions answered..
-As far as changing my setup to SOG or something different, thats not going to happen this time around..i think i like the seperate bucket setup i have going for now..this will only be a one time thing in this space..then when i move/have more room, i'm going to go to a larger more dynamic setup.
-The buckets i'm using are exactly 2 gallons..kinda small but work well for the space constraints..
-If I get the big 100W CFL @ 2700k for flower can i use 2 or 3 of the 26 watt 5500k veg bulbs that i'm using now along with that? Will that be sufficient for flower?
-What about these halogens? they are 150 Watt @ 2900k..However I noticed there was a big difference in the lumens..What to do? Thanks for everything guys..
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Opie Yutts I need your help friend
What about Crystal clear bulbs? What kind of Kelvins do these have? They are 300 watts with pretty hight lumens..These def wouldn't work huh?
Opie Yutts I need your help friend
quote=GrowMe
-The buckets i'm using are exactly 2 gallons..kinda small but work well for the space constraints..
That's not a problem. Right now in my temporary grow I have 6 plants sharing 2 gallons, and they are doing fine.
-If I get the big 100W CFL @ 2700k for flower can i use 2 or 3 of the 26 watt 5500k veg bulbs that i'm using now along with that? Will that be sufficient for flower?
That would probably be good, if you get the lights real close to the plants. It's especially good you would be mixing colors. It should produce some nice buds.
-What about these halogens? they are 150 Watt @ 2900k..However I noticed there was a big difference in the lumens..What to do?
Halogens are bad. They run way too hot to do any good. If you are going to run that hot you can use HID lighting, and have twice the lumens per watt. Usually the wrong wavelength too, but 2900K might not be too bad, since your second choice for flowering is 2750K.
Opie Yutts I need your help friend
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Originally Posted by GrowMe
What about Crystal clear bulbs? What kind of Kelvins do these have? They are 300 watts with pretty hight lumens..These def wouldn't work huh?
I don't know for sure what Crystal clear bulbs are. Aren't they incandescent? Gotta link?
Opie Yutts I need your help friend
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Originally Posted by GrowMe
Sorry I missed this one earlier. Again no halogens. See above.
As for the best spectrum, that's really hard to tell. There are lots of things to consider when trying to figure out the best anything for a plant, light included. Unless I hear of a better way though, I am going to stick with whatever gives the plants the best chance at peak chlorophyll activity. According to the chart, 5700 and 6100K are the best choices for vegging, not between. 2450 and 2750K are the best for budding, not between. The best choice of each is the lower value. Good luck finding exactly those numbers on a bulb. Interestingly, you can achieve those numbers with LED lights, hmmm. Halogen lights normally hit somewhere in between the ideal numbers, or worse yet in between red and blue.
