How were you created?

My parents went on vacation to New Zealand. They relaxed and had a "good time".

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Originally Posted by Reefer Rogue

I know i don't know for a fact there is a God, what i propose is rationally philosophy as to explain why i think my beliefs are justified. However, i do not have to justify my beliefs to myself, I know what i believe and am content in life. Some may see the idea of creation as silly, yet i think a lack of creation is silly, lol. We can only continue to ponder until death, which all men face, no matter how rich or poor. This is inevitable. For the athiests, what is the meaning to life, why and more importantly how are we here? I've said it before but believing in God is believing that there is meaning to life, i completely reject nihilism.

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I can't speak for all atheists, but I believe the meaning of life is to live. that's it. enjoy it while you're here, you might not get a second chance.

You cannot disprove the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Oh I love him and believe in him so. I challenge any other religion to disprove the existence of the FSM. Ramen.

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Originally Posted by angry nomad

You cannot disprove the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Oh I love him and believe in him so. I challenge any other religion to disprove the existence of the FSM. Ramen.

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A fellow Pastafarian! Good eats to you my friend. I take it you've been touched by his noodley appendages?

After 14.6 billion years my soul decided to settle on this planet to live out multiple lifetimes. My existence has been, and always will be. I am more than just my body, I am an ethereal being that has traveled to this planet to learn. We come and go, until our human consciousness has faded and we become aware of all that is (enlightenment). Until my shells die, and my ego released...I will stay on this planet for generations to come. Then I will return to what was, and be used to support the wholeness of this universe.





Just a lil' sumthin' inspired by the words of David R. Hawkings ( I )

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Originally Posted by Reefer Rogue

For the athiests, what is the meaning to life, why and more importantly how are we here? I've said it before but believing in God is believing that there is meaning to life, i completely reject nihilism.

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Why does life need predetermined meaning? I think the point of life is to just live. You can find your own meanings along the way.

I guess it is hard for some people to swallow but maybe there is no reason we are here. Maybe there is no greater purpose for our existence. This could be depressing to some, but think of it this way; all this life is is what you get out of it. It's a chance to actually see what the sunset looks like, a chance to experience what love feels like, a chance to explore the physical world and to find all the beauty it has to offer.

If you know anything about existentialism, them you know that you should reject nihilism. I believe the meaning of life to be subjective. I believe we create our own meaning of life through the choices we make. I believe the meaning of life is to live in peace by following the philosophy of Jesus Christ, Jah. No one has convinced me that there is not a God or ever shall. All things speak of God. I find in the universe so many forms of order, organisation, system law, and adjustment of means to ends, that I believe in a cosmic intelligence and I concienve God as the life, mind, order, and law of the world. Let us weigh the gain and loss, in wagering that God is. Consider these alternatives: if you win, you win all; if you lose, you lose nothing. Do not hesitate, then, to wager that He is. When you have succeeded in enshrining God within your heart, you will see Him everywhere.

'It is impossible to account for the creation of the universe without the agency of a supreme being.' - George Washington

I disagree with existentialism as it has been summarized to me. To not care about life because you believe in nothing afterwards seems silly to me. If in fact there is nothing after this, then you should cherish life while you have it.

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Originally Posted by Reefer Rogue

Let us weigh the gain and loss, in wagering that God is. Consider these alternatives: if you win, you win all; if you lose, you lose nothing. Do not hesitate, then, to wager that He is

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please please please don't use this argument. We are both gambling in regards to faith and gods, I just believe in one less God than you do. And the "gambling" aspect only works if the faith you choose is true.

It's entirely as conceivable that there is a God that wants people to realize morals on their own, rather than through fear. God may or may not punish anyone based on their beliefs if such a God exists. So to say that betting on God is the winning bet, would be the exact same as me saying that disbelief and scepticism are the winning bet(s).

'Anything is possible' - Me.

I had a funny thought with the gambling thing.

imagine going to a casino with some chips, waiting to play the million numbered roulette. You want to bet on a few numbers to increase your odds, but the casino tells you that with certain numbers, you can only bet on those numbers and no others. If you do, you automatically lose the bet. And they tell you they'll let you know if you've won when you die :p

This isn't meant to illustrate anything really, it was just a funny thought.

I was planted by aliens, man:hippy: