If God does not exist answer me this

boiler... i think string theory is a great theory and very well could prove more accurate than some current theories (relativity and quantum) but it is far from "proven" or even accepted by the larger scientific community

if god DOES exist answer me this... why hasn't science even been able to ever think of explaining it or proving it?

we're alot closer to proving big bang and evolution then god...

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Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho

if god DOES exist answer me this... why hasn't science even been able to ever think of explaining it or proving it?

we're alot closer to proving big bang and evolution then god...

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very few scientists have discovered that the application of God to science will enable the creation of technology far beyond what we have created thus far. btw i use the word god loosely to describe all spirituality because god is not just one entity it is everything real...ok it is one entity, but we are all that entity and the earth is that entiy, so it gets a little complicated.

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Originally Posted by PureEvil760

very few scientists have discovered that the application of God to science will enable the creation of technology far beyond what we have created thus far. btw i use the word god loosely to describe all spirituality because god is not just one entity it is everything real...ok it is one entity, but we are all that entity and the earth is that entiy, so it gets a little complicated.

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Very few? Care to name which ones have discovered this fabled information?

Anything, any information on this revelation that science will suddenly become so much better if people infused God into it.

Nevermind the fact that some religions state that science and the things it has discovered are all untrue, while others work so closely with theorietical physics and quantum mechanics that its not even funny.

And just living in general will enable us to create technology far beyond what we have created so far. Look at the leaps that were accomplished without any inclusion of God(s) in the past 100 years.

Not to mention, how do you apply something that is by all accounts completely random and unpredictable at best to an art that is based entirely on things being precise and predictable. Is this where whenever we find a problem with a theory or something, that we can now say .. "musta been god" instead of taking the time to try to discover what is causing the problem and resolving it? Can the String/M Theorists immediately validate everything they have been working on by taking the parts that dont add up and invoking the new god rule?

Belief has no place in science. Science has no place in belief. They work on two entirely different principles, and combining them will only make both near impossible to use.

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Originally Posted by Pass That Shit

"This leads me to believe that time must be an illusion or else the universe is impossible."

We live inside of time. God made the clock so he lives outside of it. Without the lights that are in the sky (hanging clock), I don't know how we would keep track of time. If the sun never went down, how would we keep track of time? It will be ONE long day.
A day without clouds and plenty of sunshine. So in the future, time will be a thing of the past.

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Here is a question:

If god created earthly time, and therefore transcends it, it would stand to reason that he knows all things, past, present, and future. So he knows which of us are "saved" and which of us are condemned before we are born. We would have virtually no free will. So for anyone who believes in this type of Christian god, and his bible, answer:

If god knows this, why would he even create a bible instructing us on how to be a good person and get into heaven? It would be utterly futile. He would already know.

And to answer the original question of this thread, I will start by saying that the universe is infinite. If it is NOT infinite, that would imply that something exists outside of it. But the word "universe" includes all things in existence. So if anything did exist outside of the universe, it would also be part of the universe.

In an infinite expanse of space, time and matter, there is an infinite array of matter composition, combination, organization and placement. Some of these are inevitably going to BE in such a manner that they will produce what we all galaxies, solar systems, and our own ecosystem.

If there is any chance of something happening, no matter how infinitesimally slight, it will happen. Over and over and over, and infinite amount of times. We just happen to be the result of one particular occurrence that happened to produced viable, intelligent life.

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Originally Posted by powair

Here is a question:

If god created earthly time, and therefore transcends it, it would stand to reason that he knows all things, past, present, and future. So he knows which of us are "saved" and which of us are condemned before we are born. We would have virtually no free will. So for anyone who believes in this type of Christian god, and his bible, answer:

If god knows this, why would he even create a bible instructing us on how to be a good person and get into heaven? It would be utterly futile. He would already know.

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Making any effort to believe in God(s) would be futile, as if you were meant to believe, then it would be destined. Thats the bitch about predestination... it removes any need to have will to live and act... as if you were meant to do something, you will do it, wether you intended to or not.

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Originally Posted by powair

Here is a question:

If god created earthly time, and therefore transcends it, it would stand to reason that he knows all things, past, present, and future. So he knows which of us are "saved" and which of us are condemned before we are born. We would have virtually no free will. So for anyone who believes in this type of Christian god, and his bible, answer:

If god knows this, why would he even create a bible instructing us on how to be a good person and get into heaven? It would be utterly futile. He would already know.

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God would like everyone to come to the knowledge of the truth. He allows us to do what we want.
He's not controlling us, he knows what we're gonna do.

Are you saying that everything you do is an act of God?

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Originally Posted by powair

Here is a question:

If god created earthly time, and therefore transcends it, it would stand to reason that he knows all things, past, present, and future. So he knows which of us are "saved" and which of us are condemned before we are born. We would have virtually no free will. So for anyone who believes in this type of Christian god, and his bible, answer:

If god knows this, why would he even create a bible instructing us on how to be a good person and get into heaven? It would be utterly futile. He would already know.

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Not only that, but an all knowing god is incompatible with an all powerful god. God can either know everything, past present and future while being powerless to stop it, or he can be all powerful, changing time on a whim, while not having knowledge of what happens next.

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Originally Posted by Pass That Shit

God would like everyone to come to the knowledge of the truth. He allows us to do what we want.
He's not controlling us, he knows what we're gonna do.

Are you saying that everything you do is an act of God?

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If you read what I actually wrote, you will notice that I did not say god is controlling us. You did not even come close to a rational answer for my question.