Originally Posted by pisshead
good luck with that...he's all about creating strawmen, saying you're for them, and then telling you how it's wrong...so it's pointless to even have a discussion.
and don't talk about the founders or the constitution, especially to a neo-con...they have no regard for it.
they'd just as soon consider the founders of the country and constitution pro-terrorist.
they should read the federalist and anti-federalist papers for a real debate, not this made up left/right crap.