Comes a Time, First Grow, Please Step Inside -- 2000 watt Sour Diesel

hi all i just wanted to stop and say hey:) great grow razza congrats. the time is coming... =P i wanted to ask about guano. did you ever use? is it good you guys think? if so how should it be administered. thanks take care all!

No experience with guano, sorry buddy! Maybe post it in the Basic Growing Forum...I'm sure someone around here uses it...

I just use my blooming nutes, with Hygrozeim which helps makes the blooming nutes more avail for uptake. Will also use MOAB the last few weeks of flowering.

Have started to take a bunch off because of exactly what you are saying. I have been told by the person I got the clones from that 9.5 weeks and they should be done. I plan to use MOAB during the last two weeks of flower, so I'm guessing I should now take my regular blooming nutes down by about 25%-50% when doing so? MOAB says should be decreased by as much as 50% at times... I was at 1050 PPM, should I start weening them off now and apply the MOAB in a week or so?

My advice is don't decrease your nute level till your 7.5 weeks.. you could loose some heavy weight in buds if you do that too early... if it was me i'd go full nutes till 7.5 weeks and then stop feeding them and use MOAB for the 2 weeks left.. thats it :)

Show us the huge nugs when its dried and cured! ;)

Have a good smoke pal! :S5:

Are you saying give them full blooming nutes and then use the MOAB alone for a few weeks? I thought it was supposed to be used in combination with the blooming nutes during the first two weeks of flowering, and the last two weeks of flowering.

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Hey partner, I have been out of the loop for a minute, but am slowly getting back into the office to check everything out. With the bloom, I would just wait until the last few or couple weeks and then drop your normal PPM in half and use the bloom nute and if there is no sign of burn you may bump the normal nutes back up a little. I wouldn't wean them down because when you hit them with the bloom nute I think that it will be kind of a shock for them to have been weaned off of a high dose for a week or so and then jump back up so quick.
Glad that the PVC piping worked out. I have about 9 different strains going right now and they are mostly local and have different growth patterns so I will probably have to pull out every trick in the book to maintain them the way I want, nice and big.
Well, keep up the good work.
Adieu

I was thinking I'm going to cut the Super Natural regular bloom nutes in half next time I fill the resi, and then put the reccomended dose of MOAB in there. Your post is a little confusing, is this what you mean? Maybe I am just really stoned? LOL. I will post the numbers of my Super Natural a bit later, and then the numbers of the MOAB as well, so I could get the advice of a few of you lovely folks as to how quickly to cut back on the Super Natural when using the MOAB. MOAB bottle says to cut back by as much as 50% with regular blooming nutes.

Using Super Natrual blooming nutes. Been using half reverse osmosis water, half tap water which results in a PPM of 250. I have gotten my babies up to 1050 PPM (just now seven weeks into 12.12) I am using MOAB at the end of the cycle, you use it for the last two weeks of flowering and you cut down on regular blooming nutes. I was under the impression that the MOAB would not show up on a PPM meter, and the instructions say to cut down by as much as 50% on the regular blooming nutes when adding the full reccomended dose of MOAB. I added 75% of the reccomended dose of MOAB, and then measured the PPM, and it had increased 160PPM - I thought it wouldn't show up? My plan was to give the plants 75% of the reccomended MOAB dose, and then give them 75% of what I usually gave them for blooming. However, I only brought my PPM up to 850 after blooming nutes were added, so I gave them 400PPM of the bloom which is half of what I generally give them. Why did the MOAB show up, and next time I fill my resi should I just bring the water to 1050PPM as that's what they are used to? I didn't want to cut their blooming nutes down by 50%. Any experiences are appreciated, I kind of feel like I am short changing my plants cutting down 50% on bloom especially when I didn't even use the full dose of MOAB.

Your getting it right. Cut things down to when you add the bloom nute it brings the PPM back up to 1050 and just keep an I on them. Some nutes are hotter than others and if you get a little burnning don't worry too much. Your flowering buds will handle nutes even when your leafs can't, and show a little burn.
Adieu

Cool, brought my PPM closer to 1000 before watering, will let ya guys know if they burned at all when I go in at six. I doubt they did though. Does the MOAB really kick them into high gear and make them flower to high hell in these last two weeks?

Hi pal!

I'm sorry there was some confusion out there lol... MOAB is a supplement to boost yield and shit mmkay... haven't heard about that one (i'm using OVERDRIVE by advanced nutrients which is probably the same)

I would suggest you to start MOAB at week 5.5 till 7.5

Starting MOAB means you add MOAB + BLOOMING NUTES... it will raise PPMS by 200 or so maybe more depends how aggresive you'll feed with MOAB.

I'd stop all feeding at week 7.5 and then flush with clear water for the next 2 weeks (time they will finish, assuming your plants will finish at weeks 9.5 ... if not, you'll have to recalculate a bit on when to start and stop MOAB + BLOOM NUTES :smokin: )

Any more questions, i'd be happy to share my knowledges :)

l8r :cool:

I am going to continue to feed them for the next week and a half, and then flush for a solid 5-7 days. I've read it takes less to flush the chemicals out when you are using a soil-less mix such as SunShine#4 so I figure I will feed them for a little bit still. I cut down my blooming nutes by about 20% and used 75% the reccomended dose of MOAB. I think I'll use a little less of the blooming nutes next time I fill the resi, and then clear reverse osmosis water from there. It's a beautiful thing to be approaching the end of this first grow, it's been such a journey... and I thank all of you wonderful people for all the help you've given.

P.S Yes, my plants will finish in 9.5 weeks. You guys all figure 5-7 days of solid flushing is enough, right?

hey pal give it MOAB at full strength for the time remaining and then give it a full 7 days flush!

l8r! :cool:

Yeah, going to step the MOAB up to full strength and take a bit back on the Blooming Nutes. I'm sure things are going to beef right up. Can't wait to see the end result of this fantastic voyage!! =)

Cool!!! Can't wait to see the finished result! :)

l8r :cool:

Here is the situation:
7.5 weeks into flower
Sour Diesel
29 plants in 3 gallon pots under 2000 watts
Relative humidity 50-60
Temps never get above 79

I feel like I am underwatering from everything I've read but the plants so no signs of anything like that - they are going wonderfully! At times I have let them go a tiny bit, and you could tell they were thirsty, but that's the absolute worst.

I am giving them about 19-20 gallons over the course of three days.
I water each plant for about thirty seconds with my pump, then take the next day off, then give them another thirty seconds the following night. As I've said, from what I've read they are being way underwatered, but the plants show no signs of anything but beauty! The reason I am concerned is because the more nutrients the plant uptakes, the more it yields I would assume right? Are my plants just holding onto water longer because the temps are cooler than some grow rooms? Any help appreciated.


PICTURES COME TOMORROW FRIENDS!!!!!!!!

temperature in your grow room is definitely part of it! In this case your plants do not transpire much if they are grown in a cool environment thus saving on watering! :)

l8r :cool:

Here we go folks... just a few pictures for you fellow bud lovers. This is my first grow, it was done under 2000 watts, temps kept around 72-75 and relative humidity never gets over 55%.

I have 29 plants total, guessing I am going to get around 1.25-1.5 pounds - obviously hard to tell from pictures that can't cover the entire garden.

I vegged for about three weeks which I thought was a bit too long (this was confirmed by various cannabis.com members - thank you, and you were right) but for a number of reasons I was unable to force flowering sooner than I did. Because of this things got a bit cluttered, so I expect to find some mold, hopefully not much because I have good air flow (two fans in there, another going in tomorrow) Also, it was hard to get to the middle plants to take pictures of the large colas, but the ones on the outside look just fine to me as well.

Hopeful for 1.25-1.5 pounds, we will see though. Obviously it's hard to tell from the pictures, but these bitches have been pouring on the weight in the last week, and I have to assume the last 1.5 weeks will be just as impressive!

P.S - Thanks to all those who have helped out, you know who you are. I would gladly kick down some nuggs if I was able to do so... we need to figure out a way to email each other buds !:rastasmoke:

thats whats good razza... proper respect.

They are looking beautiful! SantaCruz... would be happy to meet up with ya sometime soon and burn one down and chat.

Almost time to start flushing! Chop is scheduled for Sunday (a week from today) I usually give them about 20 gallons of water per two days. How much water will I need to use to flush effectively in like 4-5 days?

Nice
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Havent kept up with your growth, but I flush the crap out of 'em towards the end. I lift them into the shower room and flush them for as long as i can be bothered, like 20 mins. I think thats probably overkill, probably twice/triple the size of the pot is good.

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Okay, so it's time to get a d/h ASAP. My lights off temps have leveled out at 61 degrees Farenheit and SEVENTY SIX percent relative humidity. I have no clue how this is possible. Can someone explain to me how lights on my r/h is getting down to as low as 43%, and then the lights go off, temps drop about 9 degrees, and it goes up as much as 33%? That's fucking nuts.

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The lower the temperature of the air, the more water vapor it can hold. So when your lights turn off and your temp goes down, the air floating around your grow room becomes a better vehicle for H2O. Water gets "burned" out of the hot air, so that's why you get the huge variation in R/H in 12/12.

Before I got a D/H, I was getting 60 percent humidity with the lights on and 95 percent with the lights off. :wtf: Of course this only lasted a few days.

Yeah, I put a d/h in there, and now things stay pretty constant.

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Havent kept up with your growth, but I flush the crap out of 'em towards the end. I lift them into the shower room and flush them for as long as i can be bothered, like 20 mins. I think thats probably overkill, probably twice/triple the size of the pot is good.Nice

<<Havent kept up with your growth, but I flush the crap out of 'em towards the end. I lift them into the shower room and flush them for as long as i can be bothered, like 20 mins. I think thats probably overkill, probably twice/triple the size of the pot is good.>>

I have toyed with the idea of just bringing them into the shower as well, and flushing the high shit out of them in there. See, the thing is I vegged for a bit too long and things are a bit crowded. I have it set up fine now, but when I try to take plants out, sometimes things get a tad tangled. I supposed I would do the flushing in the shower if it could be done only once, but I don't want to carry them in and out twice in this next week - seems like alot of work and stress with them being a tad tangled. Do you think once would be enough or no?

Holy cats, razzapiggy!! I went out on tour for 6 weeks and I was away from the internets. Your Sour Diesel looks BEAUTIFUL!! I am so happy to hear you are having success with this grow. You are inspiring me to do something similar, but with me traveling so much I don't know how that would work out.
I shall instead live vicariously through you! :)

Trying to plan my next grow... I am considering vegging for a much shorter time next time...perhaps 1.5 weeks and then throwing them into flower... anyone grown Sour Diesel with a Sea of Green type method? They certainly grow pretty tall, but I have noticed the colas are not particularly large, seems lots of the bud is located on the secondary shoots. Does this make for a good breed to do a Sea of Green grow? Any experiences appreciated.

Your grow is wonderful, Razza! What varieties are there?

Shovelhandle

All Sour Diesel for this first run, next time I will be growing like 80% Sour Diesel and then 3-4 plants of several different varieties. Hopefully I pick strains that will like the same Nute PPM otherwise it could be a pain in the butt. Will just have to write alot of stuff down and pay close attention.

Chopped one last night (she had mostly milky glands) Not much amber yet to speak of unfortunately, which is a bit weird because I was told by the guy who I got the cuts from that she would finish in 65 days. Perhaps he has been taking his down a tad early in order to get more harvests in per year??

I have been reading alot about different maturation levels of the plants (colors of glands) and it seems some people think letting a Sativa go to 20% amber kind of ruins the point of a Sativa in that you are going to get that couch lock high off herb that is supposed to product an "up" high. What do some of the seasoned vets say of this?

Razza, how bout some harvest pics buddy????

razzapiggy,

I definitely do not claim to be an expert, but isn't Sour Diesel an Indica strain?

I'm not trying to disagree with you. This is what I honestly thought.

Please correct me if I'm wrong-Sour Diesel is my favorite and I want to know allI can about it.

where y'at, razzapiggy?

Sour Diesel is a sativa... I think it's 80-20 can anyone be sure? I am posting pictures tomorrow as I am out of town. My yield was great, I got alot more than expected. The quality of the bud is also very high, smelly smelly nuggets... with a underlying "white" look to them

:cool: looks like the advices i shared in been helpful in some ways ;)

those nugs looks YUMMY!!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Keep up the good work mate!

l8r

well that was a dissappointing end to a good thread.

I NEED CLOSURE!!! final weigh in? dry bud shot.... anybody.... please?

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Originally Posted by UMrocksmysocks

well that was a dissappointing end to a good thread.

I NEED CLOSURE!!! final weigh in? dry bud shot.... anybody.... please?

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seriously get some shots OP:rastasmoke: