MOBAY VS KARMAXUL THOUGHTS

Hey gK, Karm,

Here, this is a good re-cap of my fogging troubles... post #550
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthrea...=34726&page=22

Here it is, quoted:

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Originally Posted by turtle420

What up Buk?! :)

Don't know 'bout the seeds homes... :confused: But the strain sounds good... :thumbsup: :dance:

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Update:

I re-LSTed heavy dutily the mothers... don't want them touching the bulbs... I cut off 8 very good, long, bushy, secondary growths... gonna make some clones!

I took a 5 gallong bucket, placed an air stone at the bottom, filled it almost to the top with GH clones mix, and CalMag PLUS.

I placed a lid (from a square plastic "shoe box") on top... drilled 8 holes, placed the clones... taped them down (yeah, tape), used some paper clips for support... (note::: in the picture, the paper clips aren't present... I added them later... and I didn't take a picture... becuase I ain't Master Splinter...)

Placed a 9W (40W) CFL on top of them ('bout 12 inches).

The lights are on 18/6... the new 300CFM fart fan gets ON for 5 minutes, every 55 minutes.

Um.... target success rate this time around: 100%

Past success rates:
v1.0 = -30% (burned to a crisp)
v2.0 = 0% (died quickly)
v3.0 = 10% (life support for 13 days was it?)
v4.0 = 40% (kept alive with fog, for aprox 10 days... some rooted... most perished)

v5.0 = ??? 100% ??? let's see in 7 days.

If they all root, I'm placing 4 in the fog root chamber (yet to be improved upon... crap). The other 4 I'd be placing in.... SOIL!!! :D

Making new mother plants... more, um, manegable. :dance:

Wish for all of you the best... I don't know if I'll have time to re-log in before I go, but if I come across an internet cafe, I'll definitely check the boards. I won't post... but I'll read if there's anything... (so c'mon Buk, pPuff, Skilz, Gen, gK, and all turtle-friends... :) )

Peace out, and please sen good vibes over to the clones... :)

Best wishes,

-turtle420 :cool:
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I think that my main problem has been the big Sterilite tub as a root chamber.

My new thoughts (if I give up the 5gallon buckets DWC) is to have two 5gallon buckets, on plant each, and have those buckets as the root chamber.

Before, I had the NutraMist placed OUTSIDE my cabinet... so, my 300CFM exhaust fan, pulled the fog right out of the "fog chamber" (Sterilite tub). So my roots got dry.

I'm thinking that I can go around that by using the two 5gallon buckets... because then there'll be more space inside the cabinet, and I can then place the NutraMist unit INSIDE the cabinet. That way, the 300CFM exhaust fan will create a vacuum inside the cab, but it won't pull the fog out so fast.

This making any sense???

SECOND idea set:
I don't know what to do with the fog ON/OFF cycle. I cannot have the NutraMist unit running constantly ON because it's TOO MUCH fog... simply too much. Fog everywhere... then it would condensate into water... on EVERY surface... fans, walls, inside, outside, floor, boxes, shoes, articles of clothing... etc.

So, because of this, I'm trying to run the fog in ON cycles of a couple of minutes (1-3) every 10 minutes.

My last timer schedule was 3minON/7minOFF.

What do you guys think?

I know it's a long-ass post... but, what the hell... either this or a discussion about Dungeons and Dragons.

Thanks guys, peace and good vibes to all,

-turtle420 :cool:
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Turtle are you saying that the fog is coming up from the net cups or you are fogging the air. I am a bit lost. Have you run the unit for budding or just tryed cloneing with it?

yes, the systems I have seen the fog comes up from the cups... Turtle.. you need to figure out away you can leave it on all the time without the fog turning your room into a freaking rain forest..

LOL

well, it sounds like you know what happened.. you roots dryed out..
correct?


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What if you mixed shag moss or something in with the grow rocks?

this is the fogger i used in my res, turtle420, the fogger sat in a floatable cup.

would any one like to explain the foggers job for us uneducated ones lol,mobay?.

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Originally Posted by karmaxul

Turtle are you saying that the fog is coming up from the net cups or you are fogging the air. I am a bit lost. Have you run the unit for budding or just tryed cloneing with it?

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Sorry... didn't explain correctly. Yeah, I'm using the fog for the roots. No hydro systems (DWC, NFT, Ebb&Flow), only fog. So far, I've only run the unit for cloning... but, after that, they die on me because of the exhaust fan being turned ON.

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Originally Posted by Garden Knowm

yes, the systems I have seen the fog comes up from the cups... Turtle.. you need to figure out away you can leave it on all the time without the fog turning your room into a freaking rain forest..

LOL

well, it sounds like you know what happened.. you roots dryed out..
correct?


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LOL!!!

Rain forrest... that's the best way to describe it gK! I turn my room into a dampy, foggy rain forrest.

Leaving it ON all the time? Hmmm... darn it... the other thing is the water consumption... I'll post the numbers later today, but the water consumption of the unit would have had me filling it up every 3 days... ??? Wow!

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Originally Posted by karmaxul

What if you mixed shag moss or something in with the grow rocks?

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I dunno... let's try it... :)

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Originally Posted by mobay

this is the fogger i used in my res, turtle420, the fogger sat in a floatable cup.

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Thanks Mobay... question: That was a "dual" hydro system, right? It was the fogger, and... DWC?

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Originally Posted by postmandave

would any one like to explain the foggers job for us uneducated ones lol,mobay?.

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lol Dave... :)

Foggers create a very fine particle (4, 5 microns???) which is able to float in the air. So, intead of the typical hydro setups, you "fog" your solution, and you have your roots soak in the foggy air/solution thing.

There's supposedly a couple of benefits to using foggers... but, if I don't get my plants to live, I won't be able to know... lol !!!

Thanks for the inputs guys!!! :)

Have a GREAT day!!!,

-turtle420 :cool:
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Sorry, I'm about to be really lazy. When you get the time, can you post the benefits? Any of you?

The ultrasonic fogger turns your water and your nutrients in 15-20 micron water droplets that are rapidly absorbed through the roots. The smaller water/nutrient particles also allow for better oxygen exchange for the root structure. This item alone can increase root structure by up to 40%!!

Simply add your nutrients to the 66qt. nutrient reservoir and watch your plants grow and an UNBELIEVABLY fast rate

on my next hydro grow this will be the next addition to the grow box


CO2 BOOST generates large amounts of Co2 from a combination of all-natural ingredients contained within the bucket. Simply plug in your Co2Boost pump and the Co2 from the bucket is delivered directly to your plants.

Increase yields anywhere from 50-100 percent
Provide shorter growing periods
Improve floral quality and health
Allows plants to be grown better in higher temperatures (93-99F)
Provide you with an all-natural, affordable alternative of Co2 production
Lasts for 60-90 days, before needing a refill

Item Name: CO2 BOOST INJECTION SYSTEM
Item Number: CO2-1
Price: $125

nice bucket.;... have you used this before.. has anybody?

I've seen it before and heard good things about it. Never used it though.

never used it before GK but i will in june, can you imagine that 99 degrees from this tub. that was my main problem i was going to have was the temps.

Turtle what if you set up a exhaust system that takes the air of the room from under the plants by the net cups. This way any fog that comes up will be exhausted and the airflow is increased to the stoma?

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Originally Posted by mobay

never used it before GK but i will in june, can you imagine that 99 degrees from this tub. that was my main problem i was going to have was the temps.

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Mobay, dude,... you saw 99 degrees Farenheit inside your tub???

Or do you mean that you would be seeing 99 degrees if you do it in june?

Just interested...

BTW: Thanks for the correction on the micron size droplet thingy... :)

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Originally Posted by karmaxul

Turtle what if you set up a exhaust system that takes the air of the room from under the plants by the net cups. This way any fog that comes up will be exhausted and the airflow is increased to the stoma?

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Hey KuL,
"stoma"?
Sorry dude, I'm lost in newbie-land. Let me google some...
Ok, I found this:
http://www.emc.maricopa.edu/faculty/...PLANTANAT.html

So, the stoma... increased airflow...

Ok, I think I see it... but, in your setup, the fogger would be running constantly?

I can see (I think) the good part about the fog flowing past the stoma(s)... but one thing that has had me concerned, is the possibility of having a SCRoGoFM... what's that?

Screen of Green of Fucking Mold

I think that with the excess fog floating through the buds, mold will be... rampant?

???? Ideas???? I don't know.

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I'm gonna try it out... I'm gonna install the NutraMist unit inside the cabinet, feeding fog to two 5 gallon buckets. I'm gonna start tweaking some cycles (1minON/9minOFF, or 3/7)....

Yeah! It's gonna work... the vacuum on the OUTLET of the fog, will be exactly the same vacuum on the INLET of the fog (NutraMist fan). Thus, no net-airflow will "flow" through the system... so, the roots won't dry... as much...

Hmmm.... hmmmm.... :)

What you say gK?

This fogger talk should be moved to a new thread. It needs to be said but not in here.

I feel dirty now.

Bastards.

Yes, I lurked through this shit.

I feel like I just watch a shitty soap on TV.

Why the fuck is this in Indoor Growing.

Fuck you all.

Turtle did you start a thread for your fogger experiences? I remember you had one before and when you got it but this is the first I have heard of your negative experience. Don't answer me in here start a new thread, please.

LOL


Hey turtle.. the problem with sucking all the fog away is that it will take away valuable water and nutrients...

I say you have to figure out awau tpo stop the fog from coming out..
some sort of fine screen that catches the fogg...

SOME super duper micrn screen..
I am syre SIR DORKY MOBAY
and The king of geeks... KARMA can tell you where you can get a super fine screen...

you feel me?

love

Fermy, dude, it is in the indoor thread as we are indoor growers. We searched for a genius thread but came up short so it was placed here. It took much deliberation and numerous hours of planing to find the proper place for this thread. Your concern is well noted and I thank you for voicing your opinion.

Turtle, the fogger system intakes air on the table you have I believe, what if the air intake was from where the fog chamber is, that way no air will need to escape and there will be no pressure to force it out. The only other way would be to use the fogger device in a floating cup as sorts like seen in Mobays set up.

Gknome what about silk screen

no turtle i never seen 99 degrees, 85 was my top temp in my box, it was 70- 80 degrees daily. but that was in the winter time and summer coming soon it will get hotter outside my grow box causing the inside to get up in temps. so i was saying with the co2 boost i wont have a problem when the temps get up to 99 degrees.

SILK SCREEN...
hmmm

and Karma.. do you think that the fog hittng the silhk screen and then driping back into the reservor will effect the PH...

Does the silk screen material have a PH?

Sounds like a good idea to me turtle..
See how smart I am..
I knew that Karma or Mobay would solve your problem.. I am a genuis...

ermy, dude, it is in the indoor thread as we are indoor growers. We searched for a genius thread but came up short so it was placed here. It took much deliberation and numerous hours of planing to find the proper place for this thread. Your concern is well noted and I thank you for voicing your opinion.

LOL

Ferm.. i can't really speak for Karma..

but as for me and Mobay and turtle..
well we kinda think we own this place and just throw are shit all over the place.. Underwear on the TV... used condom on the kitchen counter...

porn dvd's on the kitchen table...

sorry , we will try to clean our shit up a bit..

but now that we have this thread... I think we are gonna stick with it awhile and really do some hard core bonding.. so .. LOL
so...
umm...

yeah
that's it..

i love you-

Hey guys, thanks for the replies... I read all of them...

And laughed very hard at some of them....

I'm taking your suggested ideas with me for the day, run them through my stoner brain, and I'll post later tonight... .

It's just that these days, man, I don't have 20 free minutes... Right now, I've got to run out the door 'cause I'm running late already.

But, thank you all VERY much for all your help, interesting ideas... Now I feel that this fog thing is going to WORK!!! :) :D

BTW: Fermentation... lol lol lol !!!! "Dirty soap".... lol !!!!

Thanks guys,

-turtle420 :cool:
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SOME super duper micrn screen..
I am syre SIR DORKY MOBAY
and The king of geeks... KARMA can tell you where you can get a super fine screen...

you feel me?


GK explain this to me

I'm using the CO2 Boost right now...and it is killer. Gotta love an organic form of CO2 that you can run right along your leaves it's so safe! My growth rate in veg doubled when I added the co2 boost bucket...I'm flowering those now with the same bucket!So I'll probably need another one to finish with.You'll see it soon G knowm...Karmaxul I gotta hand it to you.I layed it out there for you and you didn't bite.I can't help but respect you for that. You jerk o...jk...I'm glad you don't take the crap on here to literally.
Sometimes when I think of forums...I picture ppl puking threw there finger tips!:thumbsup:

Mobay.. I am saying.. THAT you are a NERD... and so is karama.. GROW nerds..
you 2 are the grow nerd OG style.. ORIGINAL GANGSTA..

You guys wear skin tight... tights and a little holsters when you work around your garden.. You probably have a mask too... like the lone ranger

and your very own theme song that you hum as you whirl around the garden...

and a super hero's utility belt and BLUE tights... you have some eistein oil hanging from your belt and some sticky traps... maybe some special treats for the plants.. like some Nitrogen pills.... you have a ph tester and maybe some high tech shit that I dont even know exisists that you made in your super heros LAB

So I figured you could help Turtle....

LOL

I would post pictures of my superhero outfit I got for my birthday but I dont want to scare people. Besides how can you be a super hero without a secert identity.

So I called up the DEA headquarter in DC today cuz I was bored and felt like getting hung up on. So the first call I give them my name and they hang up on me. Same with the second. The third I got some one who has been there 18 years to do an interview. His reason why cannabis should be illegal was basically if 1000 people smoke the night before and 999 are fine the next morning there is that one person who wakes up and says I dont want to go to work today. They go to the pool at there apartment complex and dive in for a swim. The pool has no water and they break there neck and die. He said he knows this dead person aswell. I guess they were huffing gas at the DEA today.

Check it out on kazaa with some other good calls. type in deaphone. the one today is entitled ; deaphone - V019 March 23 DEA interview special agent Garison Childress DEA is unaware there is synthetic heroin flodding the streets

I have extremly fast internet so it should be a quick download. I dont know how to put them on bittorrent or I would.

I emailed about 50 people in congress about it telling them to download it and mostly all the media in canada, o and some embassies.

I am putting my phone calls on my website so you dont have to download them. go to the interview tab.

or perhaps.. with a lil devil's advocate, we can say "karama x u l" is karma 4 u all, as in karma for everyone on the website.. THE FEDS ARE COMIN FOR THE SITE!!

hey karma..
you know that your menu bar does not pop up on my computer...
i have to press "STOP" while it is uploading to catch the menu bar...

I use SAFARI

i would like to find your phone calls. can you link me?

thanks

BEcareful dude

FERMENTATOIN wasn't suggesting moving this thread to a different forum, he was suggesting starting a new thread within this forum about the fog topic. People often skip over new posts in old threads if they are not interested in the topic. I agree, because the fog topic is quite interesting and it would get much more input in a new thread.

Gnome the bar at the top of the page just says www.gorillagrow.org. This cool chick taught me how to do tons of stuff regarding programing the site last night so it should be cool when I get a chance to work on it

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Originally Posted by graph

Domain ID: D114654698-LROR
Domain Name:GORILLAGROW.ORG
Created On:03-Feb-2006 19:21:15 UTC
Last Updated On:03-Feb-2006 19:21:19 UTC
Expiration Date:03-Feb-2007 19:21:15 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Register.com Inc. (R71-LROR)
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:36847075c6a36354
Registrant Name:Chris Seekins
Registrant Organization:Gorilla Grow
Registrant Street1:24
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Registrant City:WINSTED
Registrant State/Province:CT
Registrant Postal Code:06098
Registrant Country:US
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Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
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Registrant Email:
Admin ID:85989855c6641643
Admin Name:Chris Seekins
Admin Organization:Gorilla Grow
Admin Street1:24
Admin Street2:
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Admin City:WINSTED
Admin State/Province:CT
Admin Postal Code:06098
Admin Country:US
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Alright, so a few of you won't be able to read this. What this says is that Christopher Seekins of CT created gorillagrow.org, under the email address [email protected]. He set it up with an apache server, which runs out of Fort Lauderdale in Florida. This was run through register.com, which is where he registered the name for the site.

I can go into a complex explanation of how I got this information, which I will be more than happy to do to prove karmaxul is not Trichome Creator.

By the way, CS, I also saw the side of your house. That's pretty good.

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That's a who is on a domain. How the fuck did that take you a half an hour and how the fuck does that prove anything?

I own over 100 domains all registered to fake addresses with fake names paid with the same credit card.

Don't come in here trying to act leet when you're running a simply whois. I was expecting traceroute information posted or something, but a fucking whois, that proves fuck all.

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Originally Posted by karmaxul

yo man can you do that for this web site the mother fucker owes me 7000 dollars http://alohamexico.com/

your computer skills amaze me:thumbsup:

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1. http://www.whois.net
2. plug in address.
3. hit submit
4. ?
5. Profit

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Originally Posted by graph

sorry, I'm not a gorilla. I was just implying that I was the one who proved you wrong, and if you owe anyone 100 dollars around here, it's me. Now, I could explain the process of reverse tracing dns servers, searching geolocations, etc., but you probably still won't believe me. I don't think you're helping anyone anymore, you're just attacking people.

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Please stop acting so leet, you ran a who is search.

A retarded monkey tripping on mescaline could run a DNS search.

Hey man leave the monkeys out of this.
Ummmm mescaline:)

valium4me for 57 post, and only being here for 3 weeks, you are a very smart guy, with your searching. glad 2 meet you.

valium4me you are 1 bad ass guy, i just did everything you said and it came up exactly. so karmaxul and graph can u2 explain this? the truth shall set you free.

and to add to this, i dont think you have the balls to call the dea and piss them off grow 100 plants in your house. before you continue with your parade you should read all you wrote under zero revolt and trichome creator so you dont cross yourself up. you found an interesting article and ran with it taking over someone elses identity. and all the post your making of this guy will only get him into more trouble.so go back to being TC and continue helping others.

and you never answered me about the wire transfer. 1st and last name , city and state. so i can get you your 100 dollars. you know you cant recieve the 100 dollars with Conn. info and pick it up in savannah, georgia. 1932 h-------- st. 1-912___-__96

I made the paper again today so I got to get a copy to check it out any ways. I am hoping it will come in the mail at 2:30, but if not I will scan it for you. The reporter took some pics so hopefully that will set your mind at ease.

You got the joint ready for shipping?

yo shit man i uploaded the wrong one. its the new last on march 23. i fixed it. that was me just rambling and them not saying anything.