what experience have you seen with tumors and the oil? do you know of anyone using it for a dog with cancer? mine was just diagnosed and looking to help her ASAP. thanks for your fast reply.
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what experience have you seen with tumors and the oil? do you know of anyone using it for a dog with cancer? mine was just diagnosed and looking to help her ASAP. thanks for your fast reply.
I have heard of people using the RSO with dogs and have only heard good things. I wish I knew of RSO before I had to put my dog down a few years ago. I am sure I could have made his life better. His issue was old age and pain, no tumors or anything like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1vanguy
Me personally, I would not hesitate to treat my dog with RSO. Start off small and work up. Pretty much the same treatment process as with in a human, of course you will have to alter based upon the size and weight of the animal. It may only require a max of 1/4 gram per day depending on the dog's weight.
If you to try it, please let us know how it works out. Do not be alarmed if your dog seems "drunk". I did give my old dog some cooked cannabis before, and it did give him comfort, but it knocked him out. I had no idea of the benefits of cannabis at that time otherwise I would have given him some every evening so he could sleep. If I had known about RSO, I would have given him maintenance doses three times per day for his pain. He was old and arthritic, a large breed dog.
To me, my dogs are always considered a member of the family and will be treated as such. I understand your concerns.
The dr I spoke to suggested I start with just 2 mg of thc a day, along with a moderate dose of CBD. Then every few days increase the thc by 2 to 5 mgs a day. From my understanding RSO is so high in thc that this would be impossible? Should I just get a cbd powder that has a little thc?
I'm so glag you found Growgoddess (or she found you)! & I'm glad you found a Dr. Keep in mind RSO has both THC & CBD. You could always try canna butter. Ok, we need Weeze & Crystal. :)
thanks again. but maybe too much thc in RSO?it would be hard to get a small enough drop of oil wouldnt it..i read 1/3 of a drop is pretty strong for a human.Quote:
Originally Posted by catbuds
Howzit 1vanguy?
The ratio of THC:CBD in resin is variable.
And the CBD inhibits the high of the THC as it's ratio increases.
It depends on the strain that it is extracted from, when harvested, how it is dried, and what extraction method is used.
The skill of the operator is a major factor as well.
That and the concentration of THC:CBD in the original resin is also variable.
So, every batch of oil is different in ratio, and concentration.
And you build a tolerance.
(I worked my way up to 1.25 Grams per day in 2 doses for a 190 pound male.)
Sound impossible to titrate?
It's actually not.
Weigh the dog, and do the math. :)
Then titration is easy.
Add one gram of oil to half a kilo, (about a pound) of butter.
Melt, stir, put it in the fridge.
That will give you about 2 milligrams of RSO per gram of butter.
If your oil 's concentration of THC is 50%, that makes 1 milligram of active ingredient per gram of cannabutter.
Then dosage is easy, almost all dogs love butter.
You will be able to tell when to back off, and when to increase dosage by the dogs reaction.
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They get stoner's eyes just like we do.
Which can take over half an hour, so be cautious and always wait one hour before checking and or increasing.
You have a good doctor there.
Do you know the location, and type of cancer?
More information will help us, help your dog/
Aloha,
Weeze (Lover of all things doggish.)
Cheers for the info. I won't be cooking any oil at home, especially since I am renting a basement suite from a cop lol..not sure if he'd care or not.
The dr is a specialist for humans I reached out to via email and that was his off the record suggestion..he isn't local for me.
She has hemangiosarcoma, which was in her spleen. They removed the spleen. They believe it usually spreads elsewhere within 1 to 3 months and can show up in the liver, heart, lungs. She is 11, 60 lb husky.
One nice dispensary here just gave me a free bottle of CBD extract from alcohol..they said theres a small amount of THC in it..forget they said around 5 percent or so, though theres no info on the bottle and they didn't seem that knowledgable. I took a spray and felt a very nice mellow stone. Gave my dog a small lick off my finger and she seems normal, guessing I will give her a bit more.
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Originally Posted by Weezard
Making an extract out of green material will increase the CBd while the thc is pretty low.... I know you aren't making it but maybe you could find an extract made from green. I would give 2-3 times a day, don't be alarmed if he sleeps a lot at first. He will form somewhat of a tolerance. My cat likes me to rub a little infused budder or coconut oil on his fur and he titrates himself- good luck!!
Post above was one day after stopping 8 month RSO regimen. Biggest problem back then was a 4 month bout with abdominal pain and excess gas. Did some reading on symptoms and figured out the Iodine regimen I was doing with Lugol's Iodine was probably giving me excess potassium in my system. Stopped the Iodine regimen and within 3 days started feeling much better. By day 7 I was feeling fantastic, with abdominal pain and gas reduced by about 90%. No pain for the first time in a year and a half has really helped my mental state, everything is right as rain now. Got another scan last week, Jan. 15th, and saw the oncologist a few days ago. He says a few lymph nodes are enlarged but less than 1 cm in size, just like the last scan. He's not worried about it and says I shouldn't be either. All other test results were good. Changed my 3 month follow-ups to 4 months. I'll be calling work tomorrow to set up an appointment for a return to work physical. Keeping my fingers crossed for now, hope my luck continues. Should have done my first maintenance dose a week ago but have to hold off until after the physical and piss test. Wish me luck and thanks again to all (especially GrowGoddess) for the help. I'll update as things progress.Quote:
Originally Posted by kwilal
Ken
you can dilute the RSO if need be. How much does your dog weigh? If it is less than 60 pounds, treating him/her with high quality RSO, and I am talking really high quality, it could be a little difficult because it would be such a small dose, like a 1/3 of a grain of rice, and that is just to get started. Three times per day, as the tolerance gets better, increase the dose size. You can dilute the RSO with coconut oil, butter, peanut butter, alcohol if you are going to do a 50/50 dilution (only a couple of drops of whiskey or vodka three times per day should not be harmful to the dog (just my opinion or guess). I suppose if I were to treat a small dog, I would probably choose to dilute the oil with coconut oil or real butter.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1vanguy
I fully agree with Weezard. You might want to sample the oil yourself to determine the potency, then do the math.
Hi GrowGoddess!
I sucessfully made RSO and tried some with pg in my ecig and it's not bad. However, the pg is tearing my throat up. I know you said that vegetable glycerin doesn't mix as well with the RSO, but have you ever made cannabis ecig juice with a combination of pg and vg? When I get regular ecig juice, I've always gotten a mix of 40/60 pg/vg. How do you think a 1/2 and 1/2 mix would do with RSO?
I have tried it and it does not mix well. My guess is whatever type of clearomizer you are using is not good for e-cannabis, glass is the worse with throat burn. There is a good chance you have too much PG in it. Now that I have switched to the iClear 30b (a bottom fed clearomizer) I hold it sideways so it does not leak, store it sideways when not in use too. It is only like $15 at Ziggy's Vapes. The iClear 30b is awesome, I cannot see it being more smooth.Quote:
Originally Posted by giggletwig
What are you putting your oil into? What type of clearomizer are you using?
The more PG you have added, the more it will burn. The more glass, the more it will burn. The more metal, the less you will taste the PG, if at all, and the less it will burn. The more plastic, like an iClear 16b, the more sweet tasting, without the burn. I don't care for the sweet taste. It is as if thick metal like the iClear 30 series, completely hides any PG taste. At least that is how it has been for me. Double coils will make it smoother too. I set my temperatures at pretty much the lowest possible, and it makes it the smoothest and most tasty.
1vanguy, I don't know what other thread to message you on (Growgoddess, sorry for jackin your thread). I see you checked out Hottrageous' profile. I hope this means you read the thread 'Dogs & Cancer' under Medicinal Cannabis & Health' (last post by Hottrageous). This is the thread I was trying to direct you to in my first post to you. The one that just vanished from my screen while I was on it & couldn't get it back...?... I hope this is helpful. Dont stop posting. Please keep us updated.....PEACE!
GrowGoddess,
I'm using an Ego T with a Kangertech CC Clearomizer. It's plastic and doesn't leak if you lay it sideways. Basically I'm using the same setup hubby found to be most effective with regular ejuice. I'm just very sensitive to PG for some reason. Sensitive throat - I always use a majority mix of VG for ecig juice. And I don't think the peppermint flavor I put in this latest batch is helping either! Actually, it's making me sneeze. :D Oh well. It should still work for me when I have to travel and be stressed out. Thanks for your help and advice!
The clearomizer is probably where the harshness is coming from, the kangertech clearomizer. Kanger has great products. I just tried out a Kanger Pro 3 dual coil bottom fed coil glass unit (one of their newest products). The taste was great, the burning sucked. I have found that the more airflow, the more harsh. I forgot to mention that on my response above. The Kanger units draw more air, like a cigarette. That might be better for certain e-cigg users. It may be better for some of us in the MJ community because of the additional taste. You switch from the kangertech to an innokin iClear 30b or other innokin products. Plastic helps too. for a larger vaporizer APV or MOD the iClear 30b is your best bet. Way smoother than the average kangertech product. The battery you mentioned, is it variable voltage? If I am not mistaken, the eGo T is not what you want. What you want is the eGo C Twist 650mAh VV (variable voltage). Better yet, an innoken SVD. For a pen, variable voltage is a must for e-cigg users and cannabis too. The iClear 30b is my favorite unit to use, but on a pen battery it would be a little akward because it is quite heavy. ON my pen batteries (eGo C Twist 650) I prefer to only use the iClear 16. They are not as efficient or as good as the iClear 30b, but they are more convenient and much more stealth in public. At home, the larger units like the ProTank, innokin 30 and 30b, I prefer innokin since the dual coils are criss crossed with more restricted airflow, I recommend these units on an SVD or other similar diameter MODs / APVs. You can get an SVD as cheap as $37 from Fast Tech. It is an earlier model, but it has all the main functions. With an SVD I recommend setting it at 4.8 volts and only use the pm (wattage meter) to adjust the heat up and down. My favorite batteries for the SVD are the AW brand size 18350 to 18650 (smallest for the SVD is the 18350). The best charger is the TrustFire model TR-001. That is my favorite rig. I have tried all different sizes and styles and nothing compares to the SVD with the iClear 30b.Quote:
Originally Posted by giggletwig
From one e-cigg junkie to another, I only use dual coil clearomizers for e-ciggs and e-cannabis.
you can find an eGo C Twist 650mAh from High Desert Vapes for around $20.