New and Improved: Featuring Sour Northern Lights x Nevilles Haze

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyTango

Damn D!!! Lookin sexy yo...lol

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Thanks.. as you guys can see a couple of plants are way more triched out than others. I'm hoping these lazy asses catch up soon. I prefer to harvest all on at the same time as opposed to incrementally.

You can harvest them all at the same time....but they will all finish individually. Most likely not enough to make a difference but each is their own little individual. Now doesn't that make you feel like a proud parent?

I personally love Stinky's method of turning the RR over and cutting a straight hole in it for clones. For seeds I use the pre-made hole but for cuttings I love turning them over. Makes my clones stand up straight because of the way the RR's are shaped and I like that fungus fighting stuff kissing right up next to my clone stem.

Sorry.....got a little kinky there..... :D

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

You can harvest them all at the same time....but they will all finish individually. Most likely not enough to make a difference but each is their own little individual. Now doesn't that make you feel like a proud parent?

I personally love Stinky's method of turning the RR over and cutting a straight hole in it for clones. For seeds I use the pre-made hole but for cuttings I love turning them over. Makes my clones stand up straight because of the way the RR's are shaped and I like that fungus fighting stuff kissing right up next to my clone stem.

Sorry.....got a little kinky there..... :D

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Maybe I made my holes too big but they just didn't seem very sturdy. At least not compared to me forcing the plants through the rapid rooter.

Think of a skewer going through the RR. You have to use some solid cuttings to be able to do it though. I am trying so hard not to look or baby the clones. I just misted the RR's and dome again last night since they were drying out. Hopefully I'll have roots by dec. 5th.

Its very easy to make the holes too big. I use a scalpel to scarify the stem and literally stick the scalpel straight down/ in and back out so not much of a hole to start with. The holes that are already there are WAY too big for a clone stem.

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

Its very easy to make the holes too big. I use a scalpel to scarify the stem and literally stick the scalpel straight down/ in and back out so not much of a hole to start with. The holes that are already there are WAY too big for a clone stem.

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Yep.. that's exactly how I did mine but my scalpel (more like an exacto knife than a scalpel) is a bit fat/wide.

I'll see if I can take some individual pictures of my cuttings next time I have to mist/water them so you can see how secure/sturdy they are. Just give them that little extra push once you feel you've hit the bottom of the premade hole in the RR. 1/4-1/2" push is fine. Having your stem cut at 45 degrees (as you should) helps with penetrating the fibers of the RR without damaging the cutting.

Really the ultimate test to if my method is acceptable will be if I see roots or not.

We'll find out dec 5th.

Maybe I just need to buy a thinner blade for my exacto knife... bleh

You and I seem to have successes in different ways so I sometimes hesitate to give you advice......often what works for you makes me nuts......but it WORKS for YOU so I just watch usually.

Most WILL eventually root if you wait long enough. Part of the issue I had was that things took so damn long to root that by the time they did they were just a stick anyway so it didn't really seem worth the energy nd time we put into them. HOWEVER, once Stinky started helping me it got better and better and easier and easier (and that's partially due to the RR's.....I adore those things) and they got to rooting faster and faster, without so much leaf loss. My big discovery is that no matter WHAT is wrong with them they wilt.....too wet...wilt.....too dry...wilt....too cold....wilt......you get the idea. So I had to make sure that the main four things were correct......correct amount of moisture,cloning stuff (dip and grow per Stinky) low heat and a healthy clone to start all were things that had to be correct for good rooting.

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

You and I seem to have successes in different ways so I sometimes hesitate to give you advice......often what works for you makes me nuts......but it WORKS for YOU so I just watch usually.

Most WILL eventually root if you wait long enough. Part of the issue I had was that things took so damn long to root that by the time they did they were just a stick anyway so it didn't really seem worth the energy nd time we put into them. HOWEVER, once Stinky started helping me it got better and better and easier and easier (and that's partially due to the RR's.....I adore those things) and they got to rooting faster and faster, without so much leaf loss. My big discovery is that no matter WHAT is wrong with them they wilt.....too wet...wilt.....too dry...wilt....too cold....wilt......you get the idea. So I had to make sure that the main four things were correct......correct amount of moisture,cloning stuff (dip and grow per Stinky) low heat and a healthy clone to start all were things that had to be correct for good rooting.

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That is strange.. no matter what I do my plants don't wilt. To give you an example... 1 plant had turned to complete MUSH beneath the rapid rooter and had probably been that way for a few days. The plant above the rapid rooter was still hard and alive and very much green. No wilting at all; the plants refused to die even with the plant rotting beneath the rapid rooter.

I have been fighting with the heating pad because cold fronts have been coming and going here lately. Tonight I'll probably have to put the seedling heating pad back under the tray since it's dropping into the 40's tonight and I use the cool air outside to cool my flower room.

And please don't hesitate to give me advice. You and I definitely have different growing styles but that doesn't mean I don't take what you have to say to heart. You are a good established grower and people like you, Stinky, WT and others are mentors to me. I may not follow the advice but I highly value it more than you probably know. :hippy:

I know you grow under a 1000watt hps but I'm curious how my plants look for their age compared to yours. I'm only running a 600 watt hps right now.

Finally started my hydro setup today. I've got 2 plants in there currently and have room for 10 more on the current 2 leach trays. I have another 2 trays I can setup allowing me up to 24 plants total.

yay... pics soon.

Here's a pic of the setup.

2 Leach trays
1 5 gallon bucket
1 185gph Ecopump
5' 1/2" tubing
misc lenghts 1/4" tubing
12 drip stakes
Hydrotron

And you get what you see before you; modular containerized NFT hydro setup.

Nice dro system D, simple yet effective... That's one big things about dro I like, simplicity...can't wait to see how they do in there...

Are both of those plants from seed or are they clones?...
what strain are they the SNLxNH too....

I just put together one of my dro systems last night as well, and got some SNLxNH seedlings and some bagbeans that will make a new home out of that ebb n flo system...then as they get bigger they will get new homes...

later keep it up bro:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by d4twamp

Nice dro system D, simple yet effective... That's one big things about dro I like, simplicity...can't wait to see how they do in there...

Are both of those plants from seed or are they clones?...
what strain are they the SNLxNH too....

I just put together one of my dro systems last night as well, and got some SNLxNH seedlings and some bagbeans that will make a new home out of that ebb n flo system...then as they get bigger they will get new homes...

later keep it up bro:thumbsup:

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Yeah.. definitely very simple setup. I am trying to keep an eye on PH. Even after washing/soaking I am going to have to adjust the ph 2 times a day minimum it seems. I am probably going to build an auto PH doser. I would hate to have my ph go screwy on me when I'm not able to get to my plants.

Beyond that I don't think I have anything to worry about with this system. I may add a single air stone to my buckets. My water doesn't fall from very high up and doesn't create too much of an aeration action. I just want to ensure my water is oxygen rich.

The plants in the pics are from clones. To be honest I don't know if they'll make it. I waited too long to take them from when they got some roots and when I put them in the system. So they are very weak right now and probably on the verge of death. Currently 1 is very limp and the other has some wilted leaves. We'll see if either of them can snap out of it. If not then I have 20 more potential clones coming.

I will continue this cloning thing until I can successfully get 100% success rate. So far I'm not having much luck though

Estimating the plants having about 3 weeks left. I will be trying to get a loupe this week to start inspecting the trichomes. I'm thinking about harvesting around 30% amber. I want a nice heavy smoke.

keep at it w/ the cloning D, you'll get the hang of it bro...I believe in your skills, so should you...

Clones take nothing but practice. I won't mention to you the number of clones I lost in learning how to take care of them. Stinky mentioned something to me once about the clone gods taking pity after a time so you'll get there. I found it very frustrating but invaluable once learned.

I'm gettting some smoke from my own clones for like only the second time. Lost quite a number somehow. :wtf:
I have three nice clones to go into flower next month too. It really is handy as hell to be able to see a nice pheno and be able to get a lifetime supply of it.

Thanks Shovelman.....:D

Dai, your ladies should give you some good dense buds. the sugar leaves get to looking very long and sativa-like but is not a hard trim. Make sure you give them plenty of time to fill out and you should be very happy with the results.

ughhhhhhhhhh

I did something stupid last night and left the dome off my clones by accident... now the majority of them are all limp and look like death. I put the dome back on in hopes of some of them strengthening again.

crap crap crap... another 20 clones down the drain

Done it and anyone who has NOT done this please raise your hand.

Dai, do you still have my email?

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Originally Posted by daihashi

Estimating the plants having about 3 weeks left. I will be trying to get a loupe this week to start inspecting the trichomes. I'm thinking about harvesting around 30% amber. I want a nice heavy smoke.

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Get the 420Scope man...good shit. Plants look great dai!:greenthumb:

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

Done it and anyone who has NOT done this please raise your hand.

Dai, do you still have my email?

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Yep I sure do... I'll shoot you an email.

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyTango

Get the 420Scope man...good shit. Plants look great dai!:greenthumb:

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what's the 420 scope?

HerbScope.com - The 420 Scope Information Resource!
60-100x magnification and a white LED for light
good vibes

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyTango

HerbScope.com - The 420 Scope Information Resource!
60-100x magnification and a white LED for light
good vibes

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ahh.. I have one of those but it's the radio shack brand. I used it on my last grow and wasn't impressed... but then again I didn't have the trichs that I have now since that was shwag bagseed.

I'll give it another go and see what things look like under the pocket scope.

Well it look slike most of my clones will make it.. 2 have died for sure. 1 had white fuzz/mold on it and the other had just wilted completely. Which was unfortunate because both of thse had little root bumps which seemed to indicate that things were going very well up until I removed the dome :(


Oh well.. I suspect the most I'll lose out of this will by 6 clones; leaving me with 14. Hopefully they'll all root.

well that's good. Is that the first time you had removed it or are you doing it a few times a day to let some air in?

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

Done it and anyone who has NOT done this please raise your hand.

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FADE IN:


INT. - COMPUTER DESK - DAY.


D4TWAMP sits in his chair in front of a computer screen. Holding a cherried up rolling paper stuffed with U2 Kush in his left hand. His right hand is raised as though he's in a classroom waiting to be called on by one of his Professor's...

D4TWAMP
Mrs. Hound my hand too, is raised.


MRS. HOUND walks up behind D4TWAMP with a yard stick in hand. With one quick swift SMACK.

D4TWAMP
Ouch!

D4TWAMP covers his head to fend off the next blow he thinks is coming.


MRS. HOUND
You can put your hand down now,
knuckle head.


He quickly puts his hand down, as MRS. HOUND walks up to the next knucklehead with his hand raised.


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Sorry I just see it all so vivid in my head like a scene from a film. And yes for those of you who could tell this isn't exact proper screenwriting format but it's as close as I could get in this reply window here at CanCom

Daihashi, Just don't give up bro.. My first cloning foray went well up until the part of caring for the cuts...My first attempt at cloning I took 40 something cuttings.. Yeah ambitious or crazy, you tell me...of the 40 something I took only a dozen made it to root, due to my abuse... But the knowledge gained well out weighs the cuttings I lost or the yield they could have given me...You'll get the hang of it bro...My hand is raised right along side of you...and Hounds' ...lol...I guess it could have been Professor Stinky w/ the yard stick and all of us in a full class room w/ our hands raised....lol...

D:jointsmile:

:::EDIT::: I just realized WH said if you have NOT done this raise your hand. So disregard the whole hand raising scene...DAMN STONERS...D:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

well that's good. Is that the first time you had removed it or are you doing it a few times a day to let some air in?

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I only remove the dome whenever I have to water/mist them per the advice I got from stinky.

One of my clones has 2 little roots poking out of the RR today.. YAY!!! How long do I wait before I put it into the hydro system?

Day 54 Flower

So it's getting close with only 3 weeks or so estimated to be left. I looked at the trichs on a 2 of the older plants and they're mostly cloudy with the occasional clear and the occasional amber. Originally I said I wanted to harvest at about 30% amber but I'm thinking more of about 15% amber.

Pic 1: Overall shot of plant
Pic 2: Shot of cola
Pic 3: closer shot of Cola
Pic 4: Random bud shot lower on the plant.

Pic 1: Overall shot of plant
Pic 2: Shot of cola
Pic 3: closer shot of Cola
Pic 4: Random bud shot lower on the plant.
Pic 5: Bonus shot

Pic 1: Overall shot of plant
Pic 2: Shot of cola
Pic 3: closer shot of Cola
Pic 4: Random bud shot lower on the plant.
Pic 5: bonus shot

Pic 1: Overall shot of plant
Pic 2: Shot of cola
Pic 3: closer shot of Cola
Pic 4: Random bud shot lower on the plant.
Pic 5: Bonus Shot

Pic 1: Overall shot of plant
Pic 2: Shot of cola
Pic 3: closer shot of Cola
Pic 4: Random bud shot lower on the plant.

So with only 3 weeks out I can't tell if these are actually going to put on weight or if they are going to be smaller but denser buds. Anyone who has grown and harvested SNLxNH care to express what type of buds their plants produced?

So far I'm very pleased with them and they seem heavy even though the buds don't look big. Many of the plants lean ALOT and I have to correct them when I put them back in the flower room. Which reminds me I need to add stakes to my shopping list.

2 of my new clones have roots and I think I will have at least 10 survivors this time.. YAY..

Hey wow, those girls look great!
:jointsmile::thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by 8182KSKUSH

Hey wow, those girls look great!
:jointsmile::thumbsup:

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Thanks!! I really wish the other ladies would catch up to the crystally goodness of the first two beyond that I'm pretty satisfied so far with this grow.

I need to go through other grow logs here and try to see if my buds are consistent to what everyone else has been getting (smaller tight dense nugs vs larger nugs). We'll see though. :hippy:

Have you checked my log lately....got some bud pics there at Zeb's request. Are you still in coco? Without knowing anything about coco, I would say now is the time to push your nutes to the max........whatever the max may be in coco. This is the fun part where you start walking the tightrope between enough/just right/too much and causing problems.

As far as trichs go.....they'll catch up. The only thing I've ever seen lower a trich level on a good quality plant is seeds......or just super crappy health. I don't see either on your plants.

Glad your clones are doing better......had me a bit worried there, but I've calmed now. :D

PS....again....not knowing coco or what nutes your are running my plants went to 1950 ppms from about week 3 on to the time I flushed them so they take a good strong number of nutes.

Oh hells yeah, that's what I like to see! Nice big plant, real healthy even though it is in way too small a pot- that means to me that you are doing everything right. Good work.

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Originally Posted by stinkyattic

Oh hells yeah, that's what I like to see! Nice big plant, real healthy even though it is in way too small a pot- that means to me that you are doing everything right. Good work.

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What a great compliment coming the Queen of Green herself. I am very pleased with how the coco has performed. I can't imagine how massive these plants would be if I were in bigger pots right now. They are huge as it is.

I'm debating harvesting the main cola/ tops and allowing the remainder of the plant to flower for 2-3 weeks.

What do you guys think?