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:(I filled the capsuls with the oil and a little bit of the gunk that was left over in the bottem of the coffe cup that i used, i took 1 and nouthing happend so i took some more(6 in total) after 2 hours of feeling nouthing but a little light headdness, i did everything u said to do unless i was supposta put the gunk in with the oil, please let me know. I havnt givin up ether i will continue to try this untill i get it right!
Thanks
You might want to put some water in there and see what temperature it reaches before cooking your weed. I have a suspicion that the mini crock-pot might not get hot enough to effectively extract the psychoactives.Quote:
Originally Posted by PlantHeadJ
I had a little crock pot that came with my big crock pot, and I had thought the same thing as he did. But when I checked online, at least my version, was only meant to keep things warm, it didnt reach anywhere near the proper temps for using for this, sadly.Quote:
Originally Posted by OZO
For what its worth...
The first time I took these caps was right after an intense hockey practice. I think this must have kicked up my metabolism because the caps hit me in about an hour. I took some tonight, after a day of sitting in classes, and they took over 2hr 15min to kick in.
Just a thought for anyone trying to get them to kick in faster, try upping activity or working out before taking them. I could be totally off but it's worth a shot I guess.
AWESOME AND THANK YOU!
I will try this after a nice harvest.
Rock, you are gonna love these things! They are easy to make, easy to keep (freezer) and easy to use discreetly.
Can it get much better than that? :wtf:
I think not.......
MVP,
I agree, now i have one more (better) reason to go buy that cheapo crock pot from Big Lots:thumbsup:
now, if i could build that time machine so i can go into the future, harvest, and bring back a big ole bag o nug and get grindin:D
my buddy has a grinder w a keef screen.
i'll be borrowing that fo'sho':D
hey guys, i just wanted to bestow a bit of information i have gathered over the past week.
i made a batch (24 caps) with ground up bud (mids), made exactly like in Flame's original post. they sucked. waste of weed. but taking one for the team, i tried again.
this time i used a coffee grinder to powder my bud (same green as before). made them exactly as in Flame's first post. they rocked hard... fucking annihilated my ass! one of my dealers was so impressed she gave me weed to make her some "meds"!
i believe it is you must grind the shit with a bean grinder, not a regular weed grinder. it gets it ground up better, so there isn't anything but bud with the consistency of fine coffee grounds.
just sharing my success!
Great job and thanks for posting back how you got on!Quote:
Originally Posted by GlassNBrass
Good info! If you don't have a coffee grinder (or even pepper grinder), a pestle and mortar is not a bad alternative.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlassNBrass
It's easier if you're using well cured and dried bud, if in doubt, give it ten minutes in an oven preheated to gas mark 1 (roughly 275 F - 135 C) before you grind/chop it.
EXCELLENT GUIDE.
cant wait to try,
also instead of buying a capsule holder you could just grab a peice of polystyrene and poke small adequatly shaped holes .
Here are the two things I've found to be the most important and I cook the mix in a small pan at pretty much 1:1 ratio with coconut oil.
1. Keep temperature between 200-275F. I use a candy thermometer but with this method you literally have to stay with the mixture the whole time. I need to retry some in my crockpot and check temps along the way because I did NOT get the same results in my crockpot and I'm strongly guessing that the temps are too low.
2. The longer you cook it the better it gets.....again considering that you have to watch the temp and stay glued to the kitchen. If you walk away and it burns (anything over 300F I've found to start really burning the mix to useless).....and it burns up QUICK once it hits that temp and above. I've found out the hard way not to leave it unattended. That's where I think if you have a crockpot that will get your temps over 200F and under 275F you're in great shape. Candy/oil thermometers are cheap and you can get them at your local grocery store.
This method works beautifully for me. So far I've cooked them up to 2 1/2 hrs at these temps with EXCELLENT results. At one hour the results were good to very good. I have found the extra time to be worth the effort without question. ;)
if im doing the bowl inside the pot method do i want the water under the bowl boiling? or just steaming? and should i have it covered?
water boils at 212F / 100C.
sounds to me it needs to be a lil hotter.
i would follow Weedhound's lead and get the candy thermometer:thumbsup:
Just got done doing this via the boiling water and glass bowl with something similar to the egg cooker.
Cooked for a little over an hour used kief. So we will see how they turned out as far as potency I used 2 grams of kief and 7 grams of coconut oil.
Ill keep ya updated
thanks for the TUTORIAL!
Well, I took a capsule at 2:12 smoked a bowl outta my bong at 2:13 and its now 5:30 and dont really feel it i was good for about an hour till 3 something then it started fading not i feel completely sober. So tommorrow I will try two or three capsules.
on a side note
empty stomach and no problems.
Would it be possible to make capsules with schwag weed or mids by any chance?
okay, about to take 2 capsules 1035 pm
one 8oz glass of water empty stomach.
ok, so i made some last night and hopefully i did it right. I'm just not sure if i got it hot enough. I had a small ceramic condiment cup raised off the bottom of a pot by a metal insert for the pot. I started the water off just steaming, for about 1 hour, then boiling for about 30 minutes. I turned it down to a simmer and let it go another 2 hours. The oil ended up light green/golden brown. Then I let it harden in the freezer for a little bit, chopped it up, and stuck it in the capsules. Its mostly weed in the capsules. I had very little pure oil since most was sucked into the weed. about 1.6g of weed and 2 teaspoons of coconut oil. filled exactly 12 capsules, plus i scraped the last of the oil from the plate and filled the tops of most of them. I popped 2 about an hour and 45 minutes ago ( i did 2 since ive been smoking this particular strain for about 3 or 4 months, and this strain exclusively for the past month and a half). I feel a little sluggish and my vision has a slight haze but they havent kicked in hardcore. I gave one to my roommate about 30 minutes ago also. She hasnt been smoking this strain as much as i have so it will be interesting to see how it hits us both. I check back in either later tonight or sometime tomorrow to let you know how it turns out.
I know its too soon, but nothing yet, except some of THE NASTieST Burps ever!
Well its a sad day, but I wasted all that time awaiting and nada.
SO 5 caps tommorrow possibly same time, def same place. (just in case, it is 5 caps)
Im off to do some bong ripppppppppppssssss
ok, i think its about 2 and a half hours since i posted. The two kinda hit me and got my room mate pretty good but not amazing. So i took another about 2 hours ago. I got hit good for about 15 minutes and then it started wearing off. so i just popped another about 5 minutes ago :stoned: im hoping it puts me into a nice peaceful coma. i think its worked pretty well, but i am gonna try again, this time with a crock pot, and some weed im not use to. all in all though im pretty happy with them.
Hi jeepboi and welcome to the thread,Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepboi
It's a pity I didn't log in sooner, but if you haven't taken those remaining caps yet, don't!
There are a couple of issues that may have affected their potency, and unfortunately I suspect the main one is the use of the water bath method (and also I don't think 1 hour of cooking time will have been long enough).
But don't worry we can still save the situation!
The thread has gotten quite long now, so some of the later 'troubleshooting' posts aren't easy to find, but we've been trying to discourage people from using a water based double broiling technique unless they're very experienced in using them, and understand how to avoid the risk of 'under-cooking'.
It's important to remember that getting the temperature over 80 C is essential (whilst not exceeding 140 C).Quote:
Originally Posted by Flameon
If you haven't taken the remaining caps, I'd scrape out the contents into an egg cup and re-heat in the oven for another hour (maybe an hour and a half if your oven isn't running too hot) at the higher temperature, then repack once cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flameon
Hopefully this will get the oil hot enough for the THC in the resin heads to dissolve into the oil.
Good luck.
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Originally Posted by jebus2029
Nice job jebus2029 :thumbsup: and without a crock pot too!
I think you'll find you'll get even better results if try the crock pot or oven method. See the above post.
Good work :jointsmile:
Im thinking about trying this method tomorrow. Ive had good success making green dragon 3 or 4 times so I'm having good feelings about this. I was wondering if you know of any chain stores that sold the capsules like CVS or Walgreens. Id like to be able to buy them tomorrow and not have to wait for the internet.
You can get empty capsules at a local healthfood store like Wild Oats, Whole Foods Market, or maybe even GNC.
I guess I'll go ahead and post real quick. We have another batch in the oven. If it doesn't work this time, it will likely be the last time we try. We are pretty excited about this batch. We had bought a coffee grinder with gift cards so we were able to use that this time. Very powdery. Also, we bought a better thermometer, and we tested the oil for a good solid 275 temperature before we put the bud in. It's also been in there for going on 4 hours, so that should help. We will be capping them in a bit and taking them tomorrow after work. We shall see what happens this time.
alright I will attempt to reheat them.
good luck niltrog.
I am planning on trying this in a couple of days depending when the pills get here. I just want to get a few things strait. I was planning on using a candy thermometer and keeping the temp between 200f and 230f for around 2-3 hours that sound about right? Also should I "activate" my bud before hand by putting it in the oven and if so what temp and how long.
I also wanted to say thanks to all contributing parties hopefully by your sacrifices I wont loose any bud and can make some killer edibles.
Crock pots and getting the 'right' temperature.
As anyone who's been following the thread knows, 'crock pots' can be a little temperamental from time to time when it comes to getting the right temperature (between 80 and 140 degrees Centigrade, or 175 and 285 Fahrenheit).
Following the excellent advice given by MVP regarding oven thermometers, I've bought my own and have been experimenting with the settings to see how much variance there was in the crock pots I use.
It's important to remember two critical things when replicating this recipe:
Firstly, the most important thing is getting the temperature right (too low and you won't dissolve the THC into the oil, too high and you'll decrease potency).
Secondly, grind the weed up as fine as you can manage.
If you stick to those points you won't go too far wrong.
Since I've been recording my own temperature changes (and how it affects the end product), I thought it might be useful to post up results.
As you'll see from the attached pictures, the 'high' setting on my 'crock pot' reached just over 300F - 150 C (when left on for an hour), too high, especially given that it would be 'over-cooking' the weed for at least another hour.
When turned to the 'low' setting it dropped and remained at around 250 F - 120 C (still surprisingly high).
To regulate this down slightly I found that by turning it to the 'warm' setting it slowly (over the course of about 20 minutes) it dropped to the 220 F - 100 C mark, whereby I could turn it back to 'low' until it started to get too high again.
If you don't have a warm setting on your crock pot the same result could be achieved by lifting the lid off for a minute or two.
If you've had problems 'nailing' down the technique a thermometer is a worthwhile investment.
Remember, if you can smell weed, chances are it's too hot!
Hope this helps, and keep the field reports coming (good and bad), it all helps to build up the knowledge base for everyones benefit.
Cheers guys, and good cooking! :thumbsup:
p.s. Hi Chrono420, activating your weed (i.e. drying it out to convert the THCA to THC is well worth doing), gas mark 1 for 10 to 15 minutes (depending on how well cured it already is). Hope that helps.
I was at first skeptical about the authenticity of this recipe, I can vouch 100% for this working.
I decided to make a very very small batch, using a teaspoon of butter, and about .2 grams of some finely ground (using a cheese grater) Marijuana (good mids). Not only did I use the wrong kind of fat (plain butter, not Ghee/coconut oil) but I also only let it cook for 1 hour 30 minutes since I was in a rush. I have consumed about 1/2 of it right now, so about .1 grams, and I am moderatly high already.
I can't wait until I get the correct oil, cook it for around 4 hours, and make a larger batch!
By the way, wiping the butter into the inside of a nutty bar tastes delicious and works well if you have no capsules.
Good suggestion.Quote:
Originally Posted by coolcat55
I have actually never used the capsules. I usually just wait till the coconut oil hardens, scoop a little out and drop it down the hatch (I could not do this with butter only the coconut oil).
after my third attempt i finally got it to work. i clarified my own butter by letting it simmer for about 5 to 10 minutes until all of the white crap was out and i was left with clear butter. then i added about 1.5 gs of finely ground mids. and then i just spooned out about a table spoon of butter and threw in the crock pot and voila. it ended up making about 16 00 capsules. the first try i took 3 and fealt a moderate buzz. then yesterday around 3:30 ish i took 4 capsules and was flying pretty good for about 2 or 3 hours. i did this on an empty stomach and it took a good 2 hours to kick in. i would highly recommend this because its extremely easy and when the cops raided my college dorm last night they were none the wiser :stoned:
thanks alot flameon these babies work great :D
Thanks dude, will need to give it a try some time..
Has any one else tryed these capsules? If so what are they like?
Here a link for buyin gelatine capsules Empty Capsule Shop - Empty Gelatine Capsules
Peace:hippy:
As an add on to Flameon's post about crockpots.
I spent the afternoon cooking capsules in mine, checking temps along the way and learned several interesting things. First the low setting is too low (180F) Second..the high setting is too high. (once it got to 275 and still going up I turned it down) so the answer was to watch temps and switch between low and high as Flame suggested. It was still much easier than standing there with the stuff as it cooked. I simply checked temps and made adjustments once an hour and that was plenty. All in all the process took about 4 hours.....made longer of course by my taking off the top and checking temps here and there but was MUCH less work than my other way.
Made these guys last night. Used 1/8 mids, 5 tsp coconut oil, in a 250 degree oven for 2 1/2 hours. Cured the herb for 15 minutes at same temperature then ground it up very fine before hand. It looked like a very dark olive oil when it was done. Ended up filling 30 capsules (a pleasant surprise, I was only expecting around 24). Just took one 15 minutes ago to see how strong they are. Should be a very nice afternoon. I'll update later on.
I have successfully made many of the edibles that we discuss here and have come to realize if you fail that you must try again. I made some capsules in a crock pot as was suggested,and they very mildly worked. Knowing in the practical world that you need fat to bind with and heat to decarb, and at least decent materials to work with. I set out to troubleshoot. I had made several beginners mistakes. The capsules more or less melted as soon as I put the mixture in as the water that errantly got in there from the crock pot will disolve the capsules that was Mistake #1. Mistake#2 was that I did not dry and finely grind the herbs. Mistake #3 the crock pot didn't quite get to 80c maybe 77 or so. So I see my mistakes, and am going to try to reheat the rest of the oil after chopping it some to make it more finely ground. Also at the same time I am making another batch with more potent materials. I hate to dry out these fresh greens but thats what's got to happen. Will post back with results
STIMPY21
I was sick of trying to hold the caps while filling them and didn't really want to fork over the cash for a capsule filling tray. I was at Michaels craft store and came across florist foam. It already had holes in it so every other premade hole I pushed a cap in to make the hole bigger/deeper. It works great and was a steal at $2.49.
so do these work like fursure
Iâ??m really glad I tried this. Smoking and I donâ??t get along so I am very glad to have this option. Thank you Flameon and the contributors for the directions and information on this subject. Iâ??ve learned a great deal by coming here. My first attempt at making this stuff was okay. The crock pot I used is very old (an original!) so I tested it first--every 10-12 minutes with an instant read thermo over a period of about two hours. The low setting of the pot runs too cool for this job. A heavy shot glass with a tablespoon of ghee was used as the vehicle. From a cold start, it took two hours to reach 257 deg F and then it hovered close to 258 for the next twenty minutes. Joy! Good to go. I donâ??t have a scale and it makes sense I should get one, but for this job I estimated the amount of bud to use based on one eighth of an ounce being about 3.5 grams. I oven-dried the bud for 15 minutes at 250 deg F, ground it fine with an electric coffee grinder and fed it to the hot oil in the pot for two hours. Then I let it cool in the pot for about a half hour with the lid off. While liquid, the resulting oil had what I would call a medium olive color. Later, I tried some of the results. It took a little over two hours before I felt it. I think this method is going to be great for me. Looking back, I just didnâ??t use enough bud to get the results I was hoping for, but it was good. Next time will be better. Thanks to all of you.
Keep in mind, the greener the herb, the greener the oil. Medium Olive, or maybe a shade or two darker, is what I get.Quote:
Originally Posted by toomanynics