Did God create evil?

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Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf

....god is no being or deity, but the essence of consciousness/awareness/mind/and thought, in that sense, we are all god....

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if you take out that objectionable word "god", it has far too many negative connotations, and eliminate the idea that there is a direction to this force; even i could find common ground with your concept. the major stumbling block for most schools of spiritual thought is that they tend to anthropomorphize that force, giving it their own face and goals. all natures have no aim but growth, whether spiritual or physical, and no end but eventual death and rebirth in another, usually totally unrelated, form. the very idea that such a force could have any desire at all is just another of man's many conceits. the desire for worship and conformity belongs to man alone.

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Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity

if you take out that objectionable word "god", it has far too many negative connotations, and eliminate the idea that there is a direction to this force; even i could find common ground with your concept. the major stumbling block for most schools of spiritual thought is that they tend to anthropomorphize that force, giving it their own face and goals. all natures have no aim but growth, whether spiritual or physical, and no end but eventual death and rebirth in another, usually totally unrelated, form. the very idea that such a force could have any desire at all is just another of man's many conceits. the desire for worship and conformity belongs to man alone.

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i only use the word to familiarize people with what i speak of.


god is the same as awareness, consciousness, mind, thought, and idea.

well from my understanding... god created a angel and it was his best angel. But the angel become jealous of gods power and wanted to be more powerful than god and god punished the angel and sent him away and that when this angel turned into pure evil wanting to be the "better god" or whatever... The only thing I am lost about is why dosent god just destroy the evil a long time ago before sin ever started so none of us will suffer because if god can tell what the end of the world is going to be like in the bible must means he can see into the future then why would he have created the angel knowing that it was going to turn evil? which is one question I am lost about??? anyways thats all I kno comming from a christian point of view.....

stories concocted by man, by man with nary a shred of understanding of what god IS.


so naturally, god is portrayed as a person, or being, because truly, it is impossible to be better than the ALL of reality.


you are lost because you do not recognize god as the mind, the thoughts, the ideas of the universe, but as a being of immense power and knowledge.


the superconscious mind is the only semblance of this kind of a god, the collective minds of all.


the reason we do not is because we have free will, for we ALL are god, we from the ant to the rock, from the dog to the human being, are all god.

sin and evil exist so long as WE allow it to, and as you should know very well, two wrongs dont make a right, if we are to use evil to cast out evil, we only create more evil.

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Originally Posted by Matt the Funk

Yeah I have. Spiritual experiences, ghosts, aruas, talking to "god". I've done/expierienced it all. And then at one point I relieved and learned, no god, I'm just crazy. You don't need god to have a purpose in life, for it to be fufilling. A lot of times I feel like religion is for the hopeless/weak minded. Now don't get me wrong I don't think I am any better than you. I have more experiences I can not explain which I have had on psychedelics. Your life is pointless. You live for experience, and when you die you become part of the higher chain of life. That is the true meaning of life, it is the infinite cirlce of life.

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i tottaly agree i think god and the idea of heaven are for the weak ... it is something someone created to help them cope with the idea of death and life

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Originally Posted by gabee42ee

i tottaly agree i think god and the idea of heaven are for the weak ... it is something someone created to help them cope with the idea of death and life

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i see your machismo point of view a sign of weakness. :hippy: live and let live, that's what i say :smokin:

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Originally Posted by gabee42ee

i tottaly agree i think god and the idea of heaven are for the weak ... it is something someone created to help them cope with the idea of death and life

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yup. thats it.

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Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf

i see your machismo point of view a sign of weakness. :hippy: live and let live, that's what i say :smokin:

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I see your self-superiority point of view as a sign of insecurity. :rasta:

i recently read a comic... a Spawn comic, he battles both god and the devil, this particular one saw the big fight, armageddon, everything on earth dead, spawn wipes out both the armies of god and the devil... leaving just them, they both kill spawn (for like the 4th time) and it is revealed that god and the devil are actually brothers, both immortal, both unlimited power, both hate each other with a vengeance, they end up fighting each other on a dead planet once known as earth (when i say dead i mean dead, not even a single blade of grass left)....

anyways, spawn is now a god himself at this point, he has control over a new earth (in which everything has been restored to the way it was, kinda like another dimension), aswell as heaven and hell thanks to the universal being known as "The Creator"...

thing is, everyone now being back alive still have the memories of what took place on armaggedon, there is now world peace, spawn then decides to destroy heaven and hell and also requests that he be made human again, which he is, right after he explains that "humans now control their own destiny, that it's time they grew up and learned how to get by themselves".

so now, without religion of any kind whatsoever, there is world peace and united harmony, very cool story imo, take from it what you will :D

Peace :hippy:

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Originally Posted by Polymirize

I see your self-superiority point of view as a sign of insecurity. :rasta:

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LOL i see all machismo as a sign of weakness :P also, i am superior to no one, i simply see that accusations are generally stemming from the self more than the accused.


if you see a lifestyle as weak, i believe it is an insecurity that your own is weaker.



also, have a random penis:


Jannet jacksons!


:wtf:


i didnt know she had one :D




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oh yeah, and im not insecure about my beliefs, so that wouldnt apply :P

im insecure about my gender, and that's the only insecurity i am consciously aware or