Do you think this might be a cheap and effective solution?
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Do you think this might be a cheap and effective solution?
Aireox Home, Office, Auto & Travel Air Purifiers
btw dont mention price. I just want my bud and I will be willing to pay that price if it really works.
OK, I am up bright and early to think this over some more. SO we cant tap into dryer vent, and we cant build a box to put fan in. So..........
Listen O-Man, why do you want to "stuff" this ductwork anywhere? I really dont get what you are trying to achieve by doing this bro. I mean once you draw the air thru the carbon filter its clean (odorless). If you just use a piece of duct (insulated-to deaden noise) to get into that space you want to vent to, thats all you need. By stuffing/cramming/jamming/forcing in there you are going to crush/kink/squeeze, etc. You do not want that d00d. Remember, the path with less resistance is best.
Tell me this, on a scale of 1-10, you consider yourself how handy? 10 being you are completely proficent with basically any power tool made, to a 1 meaning you wonder which end of the hammer to drive a nail with. Dont laugh, I have witnessed people who could not use a screwdriver.
I'd love to see this space in person. I swear to you we could fab something to work. I dont care if we had to cut the drywall and install some furnace ducting down into basement and then hook exhaust from fan to it. Then repair drywall, finish, prime and paint and when done and nobody would ever know outside of it had fresh paint on it.
I have been a DIY guy all my life. I do all my own home repairs, can repair small engines, can do basic wiring, plumbing, etc. Thats why I said previously if only I lived closer I could pack up the truck with tools and come design you the growspace for the 21st Century, unless this is an apartment. Then you are faced with whatever is there. Cutting holes in walls, floors, ceilings is an absolute no-no. You have no idea where wires, plumbing, etc is without access to blueprints and that will get someones attention if you should ask to see those. Plus, you can make one helluva mess in about 30 seconds with a sawzall should you cut a 3/4 inch water line. Even worse you can electrocute yourself and be dead.
I understand your frustration. Its hell to want to be able to do something, and not know how. You also need to understand thats its harder than the hubs of hell for me to try to picture what you are dealing with and configure a solution as well.
One other thing, why does everything need to be so stealth? Are you hiding from the 'rents, roomates, landlord, who ?
Anyone else EVER dealt with what O-Man is dealing with ? If so, give the man some suggestions..........damn Were trying for him, dont be shy.
Its rainy and shitty here today, I will mull over again and see what I can come up with, if anything, based on your situation. I mean, if we cant cut holes, you dont consider yourself very handy, then our options are really fading fast. And dont feel bad, probably 98% of my friends I would not be in the same room with if they had a power tool in their hands.
The ole lady thought I was nuts last night when I was in a closet upstairs looking around asking myself "what if I had to turn this into a grow area". To quote her it went something like this, "Have you lost what little bit of mind you had left?"........LOL:D But, here I can cut holes, run ductwork if needed, put receptables in, easily access attic/basement etc. I own this joint so my options are wide open.
b0nger
As far as the air filter link you gave, I have zero experience with those. I've never owned one, or do I know anyone who does to ask how effective they are. ALl I know is carbon filters work, and work very well actually. Unfortunately that doesnt mean jack shit to you based on your situation.
I have seen some here post about ozone generator filters or whatever, but I rarely pay much attention to those posts because I think those things rank right up there with snake oil. Thats ONLY my opinion. They very well may do an excellent job. But, I will never find out.
I have also read here that those odor control CFL's work very well. Again, I have zero experience with them, so I cannot comment. You know, if they really work, that could be a perfect solution for you. Stick 2 or 3 of those in your grow area and zero odor ????????????? Why dont you do some research and try to find out about there effectiveness. They fit standard light sockets, this might be perfect for you, IF they work.
b0nger
Just copied this from another site:
I just picked up a couple of "100" watt cfls from 1000bulbs.com. US$ 5.60 each. These have a special coating which is supposed to help control odors and in my two days of testing I have to say it works. I use the cfls for veg in a small cabinet, with a fan. I've always had a slight weedy smell, and now it's virtually gone.
BUT>>>>>>>>>>>1000bulbs.com website will NOT work.....>sigh< Might be temporary, or they are out of business. They sold every damn light bulb known to mankind. I have visited that site before. I shall try it again later. Surely they aint the only place in America that sells them either.
b0nger
Man I'm pissed off now, I think I'm gonna just order that thing and hope for the best. I need to get this on the road because I haven't smoked in a while and it's so boring and I want weed for the summer. The thing about it is right now it's impossible to do any construction I keep saying this it wont, wont, wont, wont, wont work. I can not cut holes in walls I can not add anything on the walls nothing. And if I buy a carbon filter and the ducting leads to no where but still in the room I don't see how that's getting rid of the smell...also the heat would still remain in the room. The reason why I wanted to stuff it in the back of the wall is because well that's my only option, it's not big enough to fit back there without any forcing. And I can't get it to go in the washer room, I'm sorry that space is way too small for anything like ducting to fit through and I'd have to order a lot of ducting because the grow room and the washer room is very far apart. I made a video of my room but I don't know how much help that'll be for you. It's not really that big of a space. All the fuck I want is a solution for the odor so I can start my grow.
I keep saying this room IS basically the stairs. The minute you come in the house you are stepping right on the room. It is the closet that is under the stairs. There is no windows, there is no way to alter anything to keep it stealthy. Thing about it is there are people that come in that check up on the house sometimes. NO don't say it's not a good idea to do then because they don't step over into that area. But if anything is leading out of that room that looks out of place I don't even want them thinking anything is going on. And there is just people in my family that comes over. The only person that is alright with this grow is the person that lives with me. I don't need to go into detail, if you were as paranoid as me you wouldn't go into detail either..just know that there is only one person that is ok with this grow and thats the person that owns this house. Everyone else doesn't know about it and I know they wont approve of it so I'm trying to keep it stealthy. And yes, it will work if I can find the right things this will work. Here is a small video of the room, it probably wont help much since I still don't feel like I captured enough (and yes I know it's ghetto but it's all I have). Also in place of those fuckin trash bags do you know of anything else I could use to stop light from leaking out? It was just a cheap quick idea I thought of because I thought it might work. Turns out it didn't work all that good. Please tell me when you have seen the video so I can delete it.
http://abok.net/blackjack/Pictures/100_2582.MOV
btw do you have MSN, AIM or something. It'd be way easier to communicate through that because it sounds like you are really the only one that wants this done as bad as me lol. And if UPS runs on Saturdays I should be getting my light, timer and nutes today :).
Will check video in a minute. Yes, I do know something other than trash bags. Get ya some panda plastic, white on one side (will face grow area), black on other side (side you will see when you open door). Cut it big enough to completely cover door and about 6-8 inches around frame. Once you have done that you can cut it down the middle and buy one of those zipper/velcro closures things from bghydro and you now have a pseudo d00r that is light proof. You could then stick a few staples in it to hold in place, or you could staple it to 1x2's and then screw them in the studs in the walls using drywall screws and then I promise you that would not have any light leaks. The side of the 1x2 you stapled it to would be the side against the wall. That way you have the staples, plus the pressure of the 1x2 pulled against the wall with screws to hold it in place. This way you wouldnt always be pulling the staples out and ripping the plastic, etc. That panda plastic is 6mil I think, its damn sturdy. You can even line your walls with it instead of mylar.
Here is a link to that closure:
Light Tight Tarp Zip-Up | Miscellaneous
Here is link to panda plastic:
Mylar/Reflective Coverings
Scroll down the page for that second link to see the plastic.
On other sites I have seen entire veg/grow rooms built with panda plastic on a wood frame and using that zipper/velcro thinger I am talking about.
Another question. Is there electric in this room ? If so, does it have grounded receptables (3 prong) If you got an extension cord running into that room that would certainly get some attention. Ideally, and again not an option I know most likely, but is your outlets for your grow on seperate breakers. For example, if my lights would ever kick their breakers, the fans for the cool tubes are on their own breaker and timer so they keep running to cool the lights down after they go off. And REMEMBER, never load a breaker over 80% of its listed Amperage.......NEVER EVER EVER !!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, the carbon filter idea is worthless if blowing the air back in the same room. As far as you needing to buy ducting, I understand it comes in 25' lenghts only, but you can cut it. Thats certainly not a big deal. I'd have just enough to get into that space versus cramming 20 feet of it back in there.
I am close to raising the white flag on this ventilation/odor control issue. I mean there are basically no options I can possibly think of. Unless one of those filter things you had link to works, thats about it. Harder than hell to vent something when you have no place to vent to. Thats pretty simple to understand.
D00d, is the house AC'd at least ? (please say yes)
And no, I dont have any messenger things. Sometimes I am deep thought at the computer and dont want to be interrupted by someone asking me some mindless question about nothing that means nothing. Like where my wife is or something because I wont answer the fone to tell them. I got rid of for that very reason.
Fuck, Bob Villa dont work this hard figuring shit out.....LOL
I am leaving here shortly, but I will be back on topic later this afternoon upon my return. Wife wants to go someplace and get something for something and insisted I go. She told me what it was, but as usual I forgot to pay attention.
b0nger
Well I was thinking about just ordering this one ducting that says it's flexible with no kinking. If I do stuff it back there in that little area then the carbon filter might actually work. I have envisioned me using a carbon filter every since I first started planning a grow so I think I'll just give it a shot and buy one and try to get the ducting to fit back there. this is the ducting. here's the description
I think I'm gonna order the 4". When you see the video you might have a better idea of to how the room looks. And yes there is electric outlet already in the room. Unfortunately they aren't 3 prong but I was thinking about buying some adapters. Maybe it will work, maybe it won't but I figure if I can buy a 2-prong adapter for a 3-prong plug for my computer and everything that's connected in this room then it'll work for the grow room also. And btw when the grow starts I might have a grow log or w/e and that'll be my way of communication because once this grow starts off I'm gonna unplug the computer and stay off of it a lot more than I used to because I don't want to use too much electricity in this house.Quote:
Our expandable air duct is made of aluminum, designed for years of use. It will handle temperatures up to 140 degrees and will not kink. It comes in 25' sections which can be cut to length. Available in 4", 6", 8", 10" and 12" diameters.
I hope this strongly worded post is not aimed at me I am in the exact same position as you as I have explained in my posts. And what you quoted me saying was a genuine question not an attack on your growing methods! Chill out dude!Quote:
Originally Posted by orangeman
Look I'm sorry alright but if you were in the same situation as me then you'd know how stressful it was. I didn't mean to say it like that but I was fed up with not being able to come up with a solution. Hopefully I have figured out everything but on that day I just about had it with this whole grow thing and if my lights and shit wasn't already ordered I would have considered just forgetting about it.