New Jeezy ....

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Originally Posted by footpaul

Most of the rappers you listed are good and most on the list are better than Jeezy IMO, but let's be fair to Jeezy, he's not a bad rapper. He has a decent flow and talks about the hood while still allowing his words to mostly make sense (which is tough for some Southern rappers;) ). At least he doesn't completely suck like Dem Franchise Boys or D4L.

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I agree...but most? Which one is he better than? But it's not about that...I'm just trying to say...if the music is good...that's all that matters. 50 Cent is very fake and doesn't do shit that he says right? Yes we can agree...but you must admit his first album is a classic, every song hit the mark...I'm not a 50 fan...but that shit was goood music...then he fucked up with his second effort..I dunno what he was thinking there.

Jeezy is not as worse as half the 'rappers' in the south, but he shouldn't be accounted for just because he is telling the truth...I agree he should be respected (if you call it that) for his street cred...but he still makes annoying as fuck music...and is not much of a lyricist.

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Originally Posted by Its a Plant

Maybe people just want a *true* artist, and not some "actor." Otherwise, why would anyone listen to what they're saying?
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Because it's music and it sounds good to him. Exaggeration is a form of poetry is it not? And doesn't Rap stand for rhythm and poetry?

Some of the illest shit, go listen to some children of the corn, cam was spitting fire, bloodshed was ridiculous with it, mase was killing it, and big l was killin it....... Fuckin with a known felon is a big track

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Originally Posted by spliffstar22

Some of the illest shit, go listen to some children of the corn, cam was spitting fire, bloodshed was ridiculous with it, mase was killing it, and big l was killin it....... Fuckin with a known felon is a big track

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Hell yeah kid...we can finally agree...Cam is obviously not a prime lyricist, but he can rhyme better than most, and make great music...and Murder Mase used to do his thing to...and Big L...go get "7 Minute Freestyle" with Jay-Z from '95....OMG...spits such fire.

And Footpaul...you hit the mark man...that's a great way to put what I'm trying to say here...thanks for helping me out..I've had a tough time trying to say what I mean I guess.

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Originally Posted by MacWQ33

I agree...but most? Which one is he better than? But it's not about that...I'm just trying to say...if the music is good...that's all that matters. 50 Cent is very fake and doesn't do shit that he says right? Yes we can agree...but you must admit his first album is a classic, every song hit the mark...I'm not a 50 fan...but that shit was goood music...then he fucked up with his second effort..I dunno what he was thinking there.

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50 was trying to make money on Massacre. His record people were telling him that shit sells, so he makes it.

Don't waste your time trying to convince other people about how you think this music is better than their music. It's a losing fight.

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Originally Posted by footpaul

50 was trying to make money on Massacre. His record people were telling him that shit sells, so he makes it.

Don't waste your time trying to convince other people about how you think this music is better than their music. It's a losing fight.

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Yeah..I agree..that's really not what I was trying to say..sorry if that's what you got...I just meant even though he's a bullshit artist..I'd deem that album a damn good one. Rhythm and poetry baby...I like that.

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Originally Posted by MacWQ33

They're all actors...except maybe big Jeezy over here...most of the artists I named probably didn't live those lives, but they're the greatest of all time. Eminem for example...one of the best lyricists/rhymers/rappers of all time..hands down no discussion. Do you think he really fucked some girl with his 10 pound dick and fuck her to death? I don't think so, but the way he describes it in words is amazing...not to mention all the other fictional stories he's come up with over the years...Big L...another one no discussion...listen to one of his songs...detailed down to a pin, but obviously over the top just a bit...

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Well Eminem's a circus act, really...

I was thinking more along the lines of Tupac. Now THAT man lived what he spoke, which, surprisingly enough, was more than just your typical ramblings of money, parties, drug deals, whatever... And he did it well.

I can't really respect an artist that was never a part of what they're laying down. That's no heart, to me. Where did they get their inspiration to rap? Is it money? Fame? My guess is half...no, 3/4...of the rap artists are in it for one of the two.

I have to listen to shit that's got some heart and passion, but apparently I'm one of a few. ~

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Originally Posted by Its a Plant

Well Eminem's a circus act, really...

I was thinking more along the lines of Tupac. Now THAT man lived what he spoke, which, surprisingly enough, was more than just your typical ramblings of money, parties, drug deals, whatever... And he did it well.

I can't really respect an artist that was never a part of what they're laying down. That's no heart, to me. Where did they get their inspiration to rap? Is it money? Fame? My guess is half...no, 3/4...of the rap artists are in it for one of the two.

I have to listen to shit that's got some heart and passion, but apparently I'm one of a few. ~

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Listen man...I DO agree with what you mean. (Em's great though you gotta admit haha...his first album was a little crazy, but his recent shit is top quality and he's changed a whole genre of music, so you gotta give him that.) The people I named though...are poetic geniuses...nothing more nothing less. Fuck yeah they're probably in it for the loot, but if you're good at what you do, you get a little greedy at times...don't we all. I'm sure all these guys were a PART of what they're laying down, but obviously some things are embellished. Nothing wrong with that, like Paul said...exaggeration is a poetic device just like when people write fictional books..I just find it amazing how their minds work...I could never think of anything that Em has said...he's fucking nuts..and that's what's great about him..lyrical genius. Tupac is great in a different way..he takes things he knows and turns them into poetry. It's different, but it should all deem the same respect...

Whewww...my brain and hands are moving much too quickly...the beer is getting to me now..must slow down..lol....

Lol, oh yeah, you won't hear me saying Eminem's NOT one-of-a-kind.

His first album tore it up, and that's an understatement. After that, it's like he tried to re-discover himself or something, when in reality, most already saw him as the wacked-out white guy with lyrics so far out there you had to listen...

EIGHT MILE! ~

i don't know......cam is still sick, a lot of people think he spits gibberrish but you just gotta listen and it all makes sense....... The next man to blow should be papoose but he's too street for mainstream, he could never spit that inextiguishable fire on mainstream tracks....I don't think he even cares, he puts out a new fuckin mixtape every month and it sounds like an album.......