Question for Bible believing Christians

This thread began wit a simple question that can have no answer . I recently had a revalation into a the true nature of the Holy Herb . Yes I said that Marijuana is Holy the indica is marked with a leaf of seven fingers, and seven is the number signifing Holy perfection. The name Marijuana when broken down to its roots means Mary beloved of God. Msri= mary > juana[fem]>juan[male] = John = Yahn. Yah is one of the Holy names of God in hebrew. So the Holy name of God is hidden in the name Marijuana.

The whole drug war is a jihad of Satan to destory the relationship of man and cannabis. For 5000 years cannabis was the very backbone of the economy. It provided food canvas for sail an tents ,caulking for ships rope and cords medicines and incense and oils for light.

king James 29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all
the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for
meat.

here the word meat is important. For at this time meat was all of these things. Meat was food it was tobe shared it was a sacrament to god it was medicine and its fat provived light sinues made cords hides rope. These thing cannabis can do.
And here is a prophecy for the true belivers as our holy Sacrament is banned by the goverment

1 Timothy 4

1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall
depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of
devils;

2Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot
iron;

3Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which
God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe
and know the truth.

4For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be
received with thanksgiving:

5For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

Just some quick questions:

I wonder what you would have thought if you were contemporary with David? Would you consider him a lawbreaker, a murderer? Or would you have considered him doing the will of God? What would you have thought of Moses? A radical, a murderer, a law breaker or a follower of the word of God? You see, when it comes to the law and God there is a thin line which is only a matter of perception. Peace.

Hi Haze and Blue cat:

I was glad to see you guys could happily reconcile. It was a really good thread looking back through it all. I got a really good picture of you two especially. Thanks! Oh and Haze I am one of those people you were looking for in your first post. I am not trying to be mean or insensitive TO ANYONE as well but I am just looking for people who interpret the love of Jesus in the same way as I do. I think thats the Calvinist in me though :)

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Originally Posted by RichieRich

I think thats the Calvinist in me though :)

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Now there's an argument, lol! Armenian here :D


I still love you, tho....


:hippy:

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Originally Posted by Herbal

What kind of god would make pot and then tell you not to smoke it?
None that I know of. I never read "Though shall burnith in hell for puffing thy Jay."
Besides, church is waaaay better high. IMO.

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What kind of god would make an apple and tell you not to eat it??


fuck i hate religion

I dont believe in the whole TULIP, just parts of it. Armenian and Calvin make no difference to me as long as you love Jesus, you know?

ok. God created weed not man.....man created beer and God said gettin drunk is a sin....da bible doesnt say smokin its a sin im pretty sure if it was a sin da bible would say cuz weed was aroud back then....i think if U choose weed over God then dats a sin.........weed is nature and God put it in this planet for us to enjoy God said if we dont use or appreciate da things he has created and given us den dats a sin......thank U God for da beautiful plants U have given us

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Originally Posted by krazy chino

ok. God created weed not man.....man created beer and God said gettin drunk is a sin....da bible doesnt say smokin its a sin im pretty sure if it was a sin da bible would say cuz weed was aroud back then....i think if U choose weed over God then dats a sin.........weed is nature and God put it in this planet for us to enjoy God said if we dont use or appreciate da things he has created and given us den dats a sin......thank U God for da beautiful plants U have given us

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not anything personal
but i felt like a retard as i read this...it has some valid points...but all the replacement of "th" with "d" makes me feel like a complete moron

am I a sinner cuz im happy, hungry,laughing,thinkin deep,calm, and laughing even more .... well if doin dat its a sin den im goin to hell..... :)

Hey,
I already approached this topic when you asked me about it in the thread I started looking for other conservative Christians. But I'll post my answer here too since it is exactly what you're asking about and people might be interested.

The specific verse that comes to my mind when people talk about the Bible commanding Christians to "obey the laws of the land" is Romans 13:5 which says, "Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience."

Notice what that says is a little different then "obey the laws of the land." What comes to my mind when seeing how the majority of Bible-following Christians interpret this verse is speeding. We all do it. Well, there are a few that don't... but almost everyone does. The way I've come to see that verse is basically if I get caught speeding... submit and pay the penalty. But (here's the kicker), if I'm doing 5-7mph over chances are I probably won't even get pulled since cops and D.A.'s don't really enforce those laws until you're at least 10 or more over. So in a sense, at 7mph over the speed limit I'm still "submitting" to the authorities... maybe not to the letter of the law, but I'm at least submitting to how they enforce the laws. There are a lot of obscure laws on the books that typically aren't enforced at all or enforced very strongly. So it sort of depends how you define "submission."

It's sort of a weird way to look at that verse. However, its really the only way it makes sense to me given that it is actually *unsafe* to follow the letter of the law sometimes (like when everyone around you on the Interstate is doing 15mph over and you're doing 1mph making them dodge you!) and even the authorities themselves don't follow all the laws.

I of course would not argue with a Christian who feels that all laws should be obeyed. If that is where their heart leads them, then that's where they need to be. But I would question their consistency of they were ok with a little speeding, but freaked out if someone smoked a joint... you know?

What helps is that my state (North Carolina) has decriminalized marijuana to a large extent. So simple possession (1st offense) typically gets you a $100 fine and your record stays clear. So I sort of see that as one of those laws the state doesn't really care too much about. There is probably a lot of cops and judges that smoke weed... just like there are a lot of them that speed a little.

That being said, I couldn't justify a huge grow operation, since the state obviously cares very much about that (years in the slammer). I'm thinking about growing a plant or two of my own now... and I'm still considering the risks, the legal ramifications, etc. I think even one plant could get me 12 months in jail and a felony conviction. And if they decided to hand the case over to the feds for whatever reason I could get 5 years. But, chances are one plant would be dealt with lightly.

So yeah... I'm having questions about growing. But I don't really have options where I'm at since I don't know any dealers. So I my just try to flower one plant, keep it small, and try to keep my yield down. As far as smoking only though, I don't really have any problems with it biblically and/or morally. Again though, every Christian needs to decide this for himself.