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Originally Posted by BobBong

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Is another example of how overfishing is throwing a lot of things off all over the world.

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Are you against fishing for food, also? I would say the average fisherman, like me, has little effect on the eco system. At least any negative impact. It's the commercial fisherman that do the damage.

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Originally Posted by Bob

I don't blame you for being looked down on but surely you have to understand how the other side feels.

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Are saying that I should be looked down on, Bob? I do understand the other side, I just disagree with their views.

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Originally Posted by Bob

Animals are food for us. We are at the top of the food chain and it's been proven that sport hunting has destroyed countless species.

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Which is why we have laws in place to regulate what is killed. It works when people follow the rules...

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Originally Posted by Bob

I find it kind of funny that you can shoot an animal that was born in the wild, has enough to contend with already but don't agree with raising animals specificly for food.
Look at chickens even .. we raise them, take and hard boil their children then eat them.

We do it by the millions too..

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At least those animals in the wild have a chance, Bob. Live stock is raised to be slaughtered, for profit, and so we [consumers] don't have to do the killing ourselves. That way, we can turn a blinded eye, and eat in content.

When I was young, I was taken to a slaughter house, and it effected me deeply...cruel sh!t, man! I would rather kill, and eat wild animals, than to eat the beef, chicken, pork, veal, etc. that are raised, and slaughtered for the average consumer. Yes, I do eat steak, chicken, and pork, but I have a complex about it, and always feel guilty.

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Originally Posted by Bob

This however is what keeps us from starvation.

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Yup, but it's a no better way than those of us who choose to hunt, and could even be considered worse.

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Originally Posted by Bob

I simply don't see any reason for hunting a wild animal unless you have the full intentions of using that animal as food and or clothing.

Bob.

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Agreed, only I don't use the hide, I just eat the meat...

Much Love,

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Originally Posted by JunkYard

Are you against fishing for food, also? I would say the average fisherman, like me, has little effect on the eco system. At least any negative impact. It's the commercial fisherman that do the damage.
Are saying that I should be looked down on, Bob? I do understand the other side, I just disagree with their views.
Which is why we have laws in place to regulate what is killed. It works when people follow the rules...
At least those animals in the wild have a chance, Bob. Live stock is raised to be slaughtered, for profit, and so we [consumers] don't have to do the killing ourselves. That way, we can turn a blinded eye, and eat in content.
When I was young, I was taken to a slaughter house, and it effected me deeply...cruel sh!t, man! I would rather kill, and eat wild animals, than to eat the beef, chicken, pork, veal, etc. that are raised, and slaughtered for the average consumer. Yes, I do eat steak, chicken, and pork, but I have a complex about it, and always feel guilty.
Yup, but it's a no better way than those of us who choose to hunt, and could even be considered worse.
Agreed, only I don't use the hide, I just eat the meat...
Much Love,

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I used to fish a lot when i could.. so no, i'm not against fishing for the simple enjoyment of fishing...maybe if the dumb creatures wouldn't swallow the hooks I would've been able to release more of them.
That's more than likely why we differ in opinion because i was never exposed to those kinds of things as a kid. If I was, well.. i very well could and probably would feel different about it. I know now what animals go through in order to just be a T-bone on our plate or the chicken in our sandwich. It bothers me? Not really.. What bothers me more is the millions of people that starve world wide while restaurants throw food out by the kilo.
It bothers me more that the food we actually do produce ends up being wasted on levels we can hardly imagine.
Sport hunting laws MUST be followed.. and unfortunately there are people that ignore those laws.
Same with fishery laws.
Hence the overfishing.
Nobody should be looked down on for their choices but like you.. I understand that people's opinions vary. I don't blame you for being looked down on by some people because in this day and age hunting for sport is seen as just that. Sport. However, I feel that it's no longer a "sport" so much as a way of life if you're actually consuming what you're killing.

Cheers,

Happy Hunting ;)

Bob.

Cheers...

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yay saturday morning....gun season opens for deer. Im fucking pumped. I can't believe most of you...getting all pissy about shooting deers, and how we should only kill them for food and clothing and all this shit. When I kill a deer I do eat it all...deer steaks, deer hamburgers, deer jerky....I eat it....but even if i didn't...hunting is still needed to keep the population down, It also gives me a thrill when i kill one, It's an adrenaline rush like no other, and Im still waiting to find that monster buck so i can kill him and hang him on my wall

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Originally Posted by dryst

bear hunting is just creul...ur dogs chase em up a tree and u walk up and shoot em out of the tree...fuckin prick, why dont u climb up there and fight the fuckin thign...

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Bear hunting isn't even a sport; it's like shooting fish in a bucket. I watch hunting shows from time to time, and people go to these places where they feed the bears. Yup, they lay out little traps, and sit in a tree above the food. When the bear comes, they get shot.

That is just cruel, and serves absolutely no purpose at all. Do people actually eat bear? I don't know, but the methods used to hunt them are pathetic, imo.

At least we agree on a couple things, dryst...

Much Love,

Erm.. Deer are allowed to be hunt.. They are overpopulating the forests.. if we didnt hunt them they whould all die of starvation anyway..And now your bitching because somone killed an animal.. and probably will eat it so nothing is wasted..Put it this way.. YOU cause hundreds of deaths a year due to food.. Cows,Chicken,Turkeys etc... now stop bitching because somone is doign the area a favor by lowering the high deer population every now and then.. If it was a mother.. big deal.. They will survive.. Deers arnt solo animals

As for bear hunters..its not like they are going to go down on ground to face a bear head on and get mauled by a big mofo.. What they are doing may not be the most brave way.. but many hunters have gotten mauled by just being near a bear let alone on the ground hunting for them..

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Originally Posted by Nochowderforyou

But with no guns, none of these problems would exist.

Hell I'll do my hunting with a whistle and stick. The cave men did it when they first bonked a wolly mammoth on the head.

We can survive just fine without guns. They aren't needed i my opinion. :)

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Cave men actually were able to train wolves (the beginning of the domestication of 'dogs'), and use them as an aid in hunting large animals like that. And they did have very crude axes, which were made out of sharpened rocks.

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Originally Posted by Sabron

As for bear hunters..its not like they are going to go down on ground to face a bear head on and get mauled by a big mofo.. What they are doing may not be the most brave way.. but many hunters have gotten mauled by just being near a bear let alone on the ground hunting for them..

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Yeah, if I saw a bear in the wild, I'd freeze up, and whimper like a little puppy, lol! :D

I hunt deer in a tree stand, but I don't bait them like bear hunters do. Where's the challenge in that? They come for a nice meal, and while they're eating...BANG!

I think it's pathetic...

Black bears are about as threatening as my mother in law, actually less so. As a backpacker I've had more bear encounters than I can count. I even had one walk right up to me while I was cooking dinner one day. I just turned my head and there he was, about 5 feet away. I just did what I usually did, bang some pots and pans together and yell at it. So anyone saying they need to hide in some tree to shoot black bears is fooling themselves. Big grizzleys are another story but, from what I've seen, it's usually the blacks that are being hunted.