SOME THINGS SHOULD STAY IN THE BEDROOM
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Originally Posted by graph
I wouldn't rag on you for your opinion, I learned a long time ago you usually can't change people. However, to think less of someone for something that doesn't affect you in any way is wrong in my opinion. If I found out a close friend of mine slaughtered cats in his backyard I may be put off a little bit but that's none of my business. I think you missed the point of my post, it had nothing to do with gay or straight, it had to do with thinking less of someone for stupid shit.
I wouldn't want someone screaming fag the same way I wouldn't want someone screaming homophobe. Both are prejudiced. However, to think less of someone for something like that just seems entirely stupid to me.
Liberal bullshit that kids are growing up on these days? Well I guess you're a hypocrite too then, aren't you? Then again, we're all big hypocrites.:thumbsup:
Oh, and even though it may seem gay to have a guy's asshole penetrated, keep in mind it's a girl doing it. If he was gay, he'd be having sex with guys. To me, that's like saying that because girls and guys kiss, if two guys kiss they must be straight.
As for kenn, I think you see my point, even if it wasn't me who put the idea into your head. You seem like a good guy, just don't mess up a friendship over something as stupid as this.
So you don't think bad of people who torture, molest children, and kill them and their whole familes? Because it doesn't affect you personaly? Well.... ok... whatever floats your boat. Actualy it DOES affect me. It makes me angry and sick to see gays, that is an effect it has on me, and because of this effect, my opinion exists as it does. I am not comparing homosexuality to murderous pedophiles, I was only making an example in response to your statement. Because of course, if it's true for gay's and cat killers, than it should be true for all others if that is a value you have.
How am I a hyprocite for saying liberal bullshit kids grow up on? (By the way I agree that we are ALL guilty of hyprocite syndrome) I just want to know specificaly how saying that makes me a hypocrite?
I don't understand your last example of kissing. I never said it seemed gay, I said it simulated gay sex. A dildo is a simulation of a penis, you replace it with a penis to achieve the same effect a penis would, therefore it simulates gay sex. That's all.
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What about lesbians though? Using a dildo simulates straight sex, right? What about two males taking part in oral sex? How does that not simulate straight sex? A dildo isn't a penis, it's a girl doing it. If it was a penis in his asshole, I'd definitely agree with the gay idea.
The difference is with murderers and pedophiles, they're hurting other people. That's the difference between a girl putting her fingers in a guy's asshole and a pedophile touching a small child.
You were just telling me not to feed liberal bullshit, to me you calling it liberal bullshit is... kinda forcing your opinion on me. Doesn't really matter either way, I think we're all hypocrites in one way or another too. I mean, that's why we strive to be better.
Oh, and no offense, because I understand it could be me, I understand that completely, but if it angers and sickens you to see two men showing affection for each other, is it possible that they're not the one at fault? I mean, why should it affect you either way?
You know, we could use a good smoke right about now.
SOME THINGS SHOULD STAY IN THE BEDROOM
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Originally Posted by graph
What about lesbians though? Using a dildo simulates straight sex, right? What about two males taking part in oral sex? How does that not simulate straight sex? A dildo isn't a penis, it's a girl doing it. If it was a penis in his asshole, I'd definitely agree with the gay idea.
The difference is with murderers and pedophiles, they're hurting other people. That's the difference between a girl putting her fingers in a guy's asshole and a pedophile touching a small child.
You were just telling me not to feed liberal bullshit, to me you calling it liberal bullshit is... kinda forcing your opinion on me. Doesn't really matter either way, I think we're all hypocrites in one way or another too. I mean, that's why we strive to be better.
Oh, and no offense, because I understand it could be me, I understand that completely, but if it angers and sickens you to see two men showing affection for each other, is it possible that they're not the one at fault? I mean, why should it affect you either way?
You know, we could use a good smoke right about now.
Yes, lesbians with a dildo still simulates dick, but sense they are women it wouldn't be GAY sex like with the guy. I wouldn't say gays givin each other head simulates straight sex because the mouth is a body part we all have, a dick isn't. That is the diference there. I know a dildo isn;t a penis I am not sayingit is, I just said it simulates one. Also, keep in mind that I never even suggested that this person may be gay. I just said he liked simulated gay sex is all.
I understand the diference between a pedophile murderer and a gay, but your words were this:
"However, to think less of someone for something that doesn't affect you in any way is wrong in my opinion. If I found out a close friend of mine slaughtered cats in his backyard I may be put off a little bit but that's none of my business. "
He is hurting cats. So he IS hurting something. Using the value of "If it doesn't affect me It's none of my business and I don't look down on them for it" should apply to all people in all situations, otherwise it's selective values to meet a situation, and isn't truly a staple value of yours. Know what I mean? Like if it applies to cat killers and gay people, it should apply to pedophiles, otherwise the statement really isn't true, and you in fact DO look down on people for things they do that don't affect you. Why? Because they hurt people, it is a good reason.
I never told you not to feed liberal bullshit. I said I hate the liberal bullshit kids are growing up on these days. That statement wasn't even directed at you it was just a general statement.
"but if it angers and sickens you to see two men showing affection for each other, is it possible that they're not the one at fault?"
I didn't say anyone is at fault. In fact no one is at fault at all. They are allowed to be gay, and I am allowed to not like it. Or even better, it is OK for them to be gay and it is OK for me to not like it. That's life.
"I mean, why should it affect you either way?"
Like I said, for some reason it makes me feel ill and angry, for reasons beyond logical grasp. It's subconscious.
And yeah I am toking as I write this, so I'm completely chill. I'm finding the conversation to be interesting because we can express two diferent points of view without resorting to childeshness. Usualy I am flamed 100000 times over for writing about his subject.
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Yeah, my bowl was clogged so much with resin that I couldn't smoke weed. Cleaned it out, saved the weed for tonight. Conservationist, you know. So it's a high, just not a great one.
And is it so much to say that I just don't like cats? I really don't. I know my metaphor was bad, but I don't like cats.
I know what you mean though, actually thinking about sticking something up the hoo-hah makes me uncomfortable. Still, there's about a thousand good reasons to hate people. Ass sex just ain't one of em to me.
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Originally Posted by graph
Yeah, my bowl was clogged so much with resin that I couldn't smoke weed. Cleaned it out, saved the weed for tonight. Conservationist, you know. So it's a high, just not a great one.
And is it so much to say that I just don't like cats? I really don't. I know my metaphor was bad, but I don't like cats.
I know what you mean though, actually thinking about sticking something up the hoo-hah makes me uncomfortable. Still, there's about a thousand good reasons to hate people. Ass sex just ain't one of em to me.
Oh, I don't hate them as people, just their sexual choices.
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Originally Posted by FeastonThisSHITT
Oh, I don't hate them as people, just their sexual choices.
Im not out to hate anyone or rag on anyone especially my mate. This thread has opened my eyes to alot of issues if not for this thread i would have proberly never even discussed things like this.The thought of sticking things in my ass does make me uncomfortable but its not my ass its his and he can do what he wants with it.Time to try and forget the whole thing and just think of him as afriend not a LOLLYPOP.:smokin:
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Originally Posted by Kenn
Im not out to hate anyone or rag on anyone especially my mate. This thread has opened my eyes to alot of issues if not for this thread i would have proberly never even discussed things like this.The thought of sticking things in my ass does make me uncomfortable but its not my ass its his and he can do what he wants with it.Time to try and forget the whole thing and just think of him as afriend not a LOLLYPOP.:smokin:
There ya go..........
Just be glad I don't rule the world.
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But I still think its fkn wierd.
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Maybe your friend isn't a closet homo/bi-sexual. Maybe he's just into kinky sex. I like my wife to put on her school girl outfit occiasionally for a little game of teacher and student but that doesn't make me a pedophile. It's just something fun to do every now and then.
Let me tell you, the older I get, and the more women I've met, the more I've learned that people are into all kinds of things sexually. People have a tendency to experiment, especially after being with one person for a long time. Partially because you get comfortable with the other person and partially because you want to spice things up a bit. Don't get me wrong, sex is always great; but after several hundred rimes with one person you get tired of the same-ol' same-ol'. So, you try different things; things that might seem a bit weird and things you probably wouldn't tell your friends about. Sometimes you both look at each other and say "umm, let's not do that again". Sometimes it results in mind blowing sex.
If you overheard the girl saying your friend liked to fuck her in the ass you'd probably give him a pat on the back. You wouldn't automatically think he'd rather be pluggin a dude. But doesn't that simulate gay sex? I mean, there's a nice soft wet warm hole just an inch away, the one that nature intended to be used, so why go in the out-door if he wouldn't rather be with a guy? And what guy here doesn't like a blow-job? But isn't oral sex popular with gays? Does that mean we're all closet homosexuals? Of course not! We like blow jobs because they feel pretty damn good. Who knows? Maybe having a dildo up your ass feels good too.
Bottom line, just because your friend likes having a dildo up his ass doesn't mean he's gay. It could just mean he's comfortable enough with his own sexuality to experiment. Weird or not, he could be 100% hetero but having better sex than most of us.
SOME THINGS SHOULD STAY IN THE BEDROOM
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Originally Posted by Fengzi
Maybe your friend isn't a closet homo/bi-sexual. Maybe he's just into kinky sex. I like my wife to put on her school girl outfit occiasionally for a little game of teacher and student but that doesn't make me a pedophile. It's just something fun to do every now and then.
Let me tell you, the older I get, and the more women I've met, the more I've learned that people are into all kinds of things sexually. People have a tendency to experiment, especially after being with one person for a long time. Partially because you get comfortable with the other person and partially because you want to spice things up a bit. Don't get me wrong, sex is always great; but after several hundred rimes with one person you get tired of the same-ol' same-ol'. So, you try different things; things that might seem a bit weird and things you probably wouldn't tell your friends about. Sometimes you both look at each other and say "umm, let's not do that again". Sometimes it results in mind blowing sex.
If you overheard the girl saying your friend liked to fuck her in the ass you'd probably give him a pat on the back. You wouldn't automatically think he'd rather be pluggin a dude. But doesn't that simulate gay sex? I mean, there's a nice soft wet warm hole just an inch away, the one that nature intended to be used, so why go in the out-door if he wouldn't rather be with a guy? And what guy here doesn't like a blow-job? But isn't oral sex popular with gays? Does that mean we're all closet homosexuals? Of course not! We like blow jobs because they feel pretty damn good. Who knows? Maybe having a dildo up your ass feels good too.
Bottom line, just because your friend likes having a dildo up his ass doesn't mean he's gay. It could just mean he's comfortable enough with his own sexuality to experiment. Weird or not, he could be 100% hetero but having better sex than most of us.
You are being redundant. Who suggested that he is gay or bi? Not I. If the girl likes gettin it in the ass, it doesn;t simulate gay sex because she is a GIRL.
It's simple.
dildo in guys ass=simulated gay sex(because a male ass with a dildo in it simulates getting fucked by a cock)
dildo in girls ass= Simulated straight sex (because again, a dildo, simulating a cock going into a FEMALES ass would be straight)
Head=Neutral (Because all people have mouths)
Understand? It is the anatomy.
If simulated male anatomy goes into a male, that is simulated gay sex.
If simulated male anatomy goes into a female, it is simulated straight sex.
If anatomy that both genders have are being used it is neutral.
None of this makes anybody gay or bi, please don't respond suggesting I am saying it does because this is getting repetative.
