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No one said you had to "buy" the report. I simply said it was interesting. The WHO supports condom use, too, by the way, but most folks who are familiar with the African AIDS situation known that encouraging condom use over there is a losing battle. This article wasn't about that subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
parents are expected to make tons of decisions for children...i bet your happy mommy chose to give you that polio vaccine huh? Im not speaking specificaly to maggz, because I understand the logic...the kid cant choose, thats true...but as a parent you are expected to choose how your child will live, from breast feeding to bottle feeding, religion, medications, names,Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggz
and every other goddamn thing, at least until they can talk...every parent has a right and an obligation to make those choices....I simply made the choice that I, as my kids parent, thought would be right....unfortunately all the PARENTS that made the same decision I did, wont speak up about it because hearing someone without any experience in being responsible for a child criticize their parenting practices is insulting and ridiculous...I dont blame them for feeling like they shouldnt have to defend how they raise THEIR kids...I love the comments like "i wont have them cut, i dont care what the bitch says.." well the "bitch" you refer to is the mother...and unfortunantely for the "man-bitch" the real "bitch" has alot more to say about what happens to the child then daddy...especially if you knock her up out of wedlock, so i would suggest being nicer to your bitch...
shame on all of the people who speak like prophets on a subject they dont have any real-life experience in... I'll listen to the dude that got the cut at 30....he knows what hes talking about...Ill chat with parents who made the decision to do it or not... I wont, however, listen to the people who come on here "halfcocked" (heehee) just looking for a reason to bitch and flaunt their abilities to research random shit on the net (congratulations, by the way, you can read)....maggz...once again I am not speaking directly to you, i just like the point you made and thought your quote would start my rant off nicely...thank you
when all of you are lucky enough to have babies, you can bet that I wont be on here bitching about the kind of life you have chosen to start your kids with...and anyone who thinks they have the right to talk shit obviously has no idea of what kind of imperfect, double edged, damned if you do damned if you dont, type of decisions pop up in parenting....gain that experience and talk to me again, maybe I can actually respect your opinion
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Originally Posted by muncheemama
You are correct that it is a parents obligation/duty to make decisions for their children throughout life. I think the main variable here is that the decision should be on matters that could be life threatening or have no known negative consequence. Polio vaccine....polio is a debilitating desiese. Breast feeding....no known negative consequence. My point is that there is no known negative consequence with an uncircumsized penis.
I also, unfortunately, had my son circumsized, but that was due to my ignorance on the subject matter. I also had my son baptised and not that that will do anything bad in life, but since then I never guided him in any religous direction. He has wondered and looked into hebrewism, catholocism, hinduism etc. The important factor was on things that were not detrimental in life, he was able to research and choose for himself what he wanted to do or believe. No essential brainwashing with ideas that I might feel are relevant or irrelevant.
I think the most important thing that a parent/future parent can realize is that 1) parents should GUIDE their children in life and not try and force them down the path we want. There are many paths in life and many of them might lead to the same point, but it's the journey down various paths that alllow us to form into who we are and learn about whats right and wrong in life. Sometimes these paths can have many more obstacles than another, but we can only inform our children from a very young age about this and then just try to guide them. Ultimately it will be there decision and they, like we had to, will live with the outcome of those decisions.
Brutal barbaric practice.
FUCK THAT !!
For those less fortunate they have this http://www.4restore.com/fnr.htm
You can check out the reactions to when I first posted this item here : http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=6319
Uncut with pride.
First of all, I've been "researching" circumcision since long before the internet was around. I have also given my time, resources and money to the cause of stopping it. I don't "flaunt" anything that I believe in - but I don't let it die just because some misguided people have a different opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by muncheemama
You still fail to get the point. Nobody is blaming YOU, or any other parents, for anything. This barbaric practice has to be shown for what it is, and we have the rights to speech, assembly, petition, etc., until it stops. This procedure is beyond "malpractice" - it's a gigantic, malicious fraud, and the remaining cases of unnecessary foreskin mutilations in the world are diminishing every day. Your yelling and insults won't do any good - uncut is going to be the norm in the U.S. - and that goes for your future grandchild descendants, whether you like it or not.
People who think being circumsized is "right" needs to take the yard stick that seems to be oh so lodged up their rectal cavity, OUT.
IMMEDIATELY.
I'm circumsised, couldn't imagine it any other way.
I'm uncircumsized. I was teased when I was younger, but I'm only a better person because of it. I'm very happy with it too. Over time the nerves in the head die because their is no foreskin to protect it, thats why the foreskin is there. It looks cleaner cut, but you also loose about 3/4 of the nerves, making sex less enjoyable. But either way is cool.
wow this is great im still wearing the sweater and i used to be all insecure about it cus i thought it was really different and nobody else wasnt and all but this threadd makes me feel better about it haha. and to breukelen advocaat...your a fucking weirdo dude, what the hell is wrong with you? your OBSESSED with the topic. are you really that obsessed with dicks?? jees dude