The Psychoactive Forum is Closing !!!!!!!

Shutting down this board won't get cannabis legalized any sooner. Until people fault their own actions rather than inanimate objects, we'll be progressive.

This is a section of the board that was free from the "stupid ass crackhead" or "heroin will kill you" comments that would be posted if a topic about crack or heroin was posted in the lounge.

As sensi stated, ironically this is the most mature section of the entire boards. To get rid of this section epitomizes what the owner is most clueless about: maintaining loyal members and content.

If you want this to become a shitty kid fest with some high schoolers who think pot is so magical, fine by me. I don't see myself engaging about talking about just "cannabis" all the time. It's boring.

Nice guys.. real nice..

You realize that calling the owners "stalin" is pretty much the same thing as calling them "nazi" or "hitler". We're not being ignorant, you do not hear us saying that you shouldn't be talking about these things, educating yourself before doing something. There are however, MANY places to do it. This forum was one of them, until a decision was made to close it down for ...whatever reasons. Now that this is being done.. you're all biting the hand that fed you this freedom to talk about it in the first place. We're asking, not telling people to take this kind of talk elsewhere.. because.. that's just what they want.

I find it ironic that most of you participate in other websites that talk about this stuff, but still come to "cannabis.com" to talk about it. The only reason you guys do that, is because you can. Soon, you won't be able to do that...You may feel it's a negative change.. many people may feel it's a "negative" change... but to be honest there's rarely "good" or "bad" change on a website... just change and most changes will be both good and bad.

I don't think this is being done to shun the uses of these other psychotropics.. but if the objective of the site excludes other psychotropics then there's little that can be done about it.

If you're here JUST for this specific "other pychotropics" forum, then of course.. you're not going to like this change. If you're here for both Cannabis and other Psychotropic topics, then you may be a little dissappointed..and for that we're sorry... i don't think they intend to disappoint anyone, simply make the changes that they feel need to be made to meet their objective.

I'm sure a majority of people know about Erowid.org but perhaps we'll address making some sort of Sticky to help steer people in the right direction of where to look for this kind of information. But the fact of the matter is, this section has had little to do with cannabis since it was put up and the new owners wish to now make this site mainly but not soley about cannabis...

Happy Toking,
Bob.

We should all feel an obligation to promote responsibility.

Advocating or glorifying the use of dangerous and degenerative substances, like DXM or Heroin, which can kill a first-timer with as little as a gram dose, is extremely irresponsible. Advocating or glorifying the use of other physically addictive substances, such as amphetamines and cocaine, is equally irresponsible. While sharing information about the drug itself is not irresponsible, our first and foremost notion, in my opinion, should be to inform them that most of the substances discussed on that forum are extremely dangerous. When I see a thread about using cough syrup to trip or teaching someone how to properly inject heroin, it kind of knocks the overall quality of that forum down to abysmal levels. Its disgusting, imo.

I more appreciate the idea that we are here for the education of those seeking knowledge regarding Cannabis. While, not everything in the psychotropics forums is negative or disgusting, there are threads there that are going to give kids and adults alike good ideas about bad things. It is very tearing to know that we will lose quality information and exchange of ideas about certain narcotics some of us can enjoy as safely and responsibly as Cannabis, but, also a benefit in that there should be no excuse for our kids to be building up liver disorders and failing kidneys because someone said you can trip off of robotussin, or learning how to obliterate their veins with needles or get addicted to drugs that wreak havok on their nervous systems.

While there are two sides to it, I think the way they intend to go is more favorable than what is current. Personally, I would welcome open discussion about certain other narcotics. However, while some other substances may appear safe to me, they aren't literally safe. I would be happier knowing that hey aren't learning how to get high off of spray paint from some burnout in that place. A lot of the drugs being discussed there aren't safe. We shouldn't really be trying to preach the usefullness of drugs that are assured to cause severe degenerative effects with even casual to moderate use.

Its hard to not call it propaganda versus other drugs by deliberate omission of their discussion, however, there are other sites to learn about other substances. I'd say that forum is ruined by the sheer volume of people using unsafe drugs and failing to report, along with the psychotropic effects, the long term degenerative effects. That, to me, is irresponsible.

Stellar....WELL SAID!

If it were just to give a little knowledge that would be one thing but I can't even count the amount of posts from kids that go on the order of this:

Me and a buddy just bought 3 grams of coke...how big of lines should we do....how long will it last.

You said it all very clear!!!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

It's because of the war on drugs, that pot can be linked to a gateway drug.

If people were educated correctly in the first place, that pot is a mostly harmless drug, safer then alcohol, then people wouldn't be thinking this line of thought;

"Well holy crap. Pot is great! They said I would become a drug addict, my penis would fall off, teeth would fall out and I would lose 20 IQ points smoking my first bong!" ... "Since pot is fine, they must have been lying about the other drugs too! Get that heroin ready for me joe! This cat's going to town!"....

I'm sure this is how alot of kids first start. Thinking well, pot isn't bad, neither is the rest. We can only blame the goverment for their false propaganda and lack of real education regarding MJ.

~r

I hate to say it...
But I'm very relieved that i'm not the only person that thinks about these things..

Thank you,
Bob.

Maybe, the psychoactive forums should concern threads about the psychoactive properties of Pot?

Or, has someone said that...

i think the psychoactive forum is a good forum with good information on it. why not put a disclaimer on the website, rather than taking away the forum? it's not going to stop people from talking about smoking their godawful meth or their crack or dropping LSD (harmless in my opinion) or eating shroomies.

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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

Maybe, the psychoactive forums should concern threads about the psychoactive properties of Pot?

Or, has someone said that...

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That's also a good idea, i don't believe that has been addressed. Could that not fall under the Medical and Health Forum though? The problem that i'm seeing is that the Psychotropics forum was made specificly for talking about "Other" drugs...The topics aren't even about cannabis used with other psychotropics, just those other drugs..

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Originally Posted by IanCurtisWishlist

i think the psychoactive forum is a good forum with good information on it. why not put a disclaimer on the website, rather than taking away the forum? it's not going to stop people from talking about smoking their godawful meth or their crack or dropping LSD (harmless in my opinion) or eating shroomies.

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well, we can't stop anyone from saying anything.. if someone wishes to be racist or trying to sell illegal stuff, then they'll do just that.. but they'll also not be welcome to the site either, and they'll be told that. If you can't accept the changes as they're presented.. then perhaps a different forum would be for you?

p.s. i'm generalizing, not talking to anyone specificly.