Where Do You Stand On Homosexuality?
The assault on homosexuality is more than a weird idea though. I understand that it has some kind of biblical reinforcement but it isn't at all clear what that is. At the same time most Americans do practice this new-age interpretation of Christianity, observing some laws while ignoring others. While this has become overwhelmingly accepted you simply cannot then go back to "biblical fact" and 2000+ years of religious clout for justification of social policy that at times violates basic human rights.
Some people on here think I'm a Jew and while I'm comfortable with that, it isn't the case. I was raised in the United Methodist Church complete with Sunday School and mission trips. That being said, it is my understanding that as I human being I have the absolute obligation to seek the truth, whatever it may be.
Where Do You Stand On Homosexuality?
Let me try. Haven't had a priest able to answer this yet.
God made the earth.
God made all the animals and the creatures on it.
God made man.
God made animals with homosexual behavior.
God made man with homosexual behavior.
Since God himself, by our own doctrine, made man and animals then the religious people do not have a problem with homosexuality. They have a problem because they do not agree with the way God made people and animals. Sounds like they need to take their complaints to God and leave other people out of it.
There is nowhere in the Ten Commandments, the only words in the bible directly written by God or Jesus, does it say that homosexuality is against God. Only later in the bible is this written, not by Jesus or God, probably by someone with more than a little prejudice redneck in them.
Where Do You Stand On Homosexuality?
Is a womans opinion needed or what? Smile
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Where Do You Stand On Homosexuality?
How is it a new-age interpretation? Where in Scripture does it say that I am still bound by the Law as it was given to Moses?
As for homosexuality I think most people using the Bible to argue against it use Lev 20:13. In the NT it is lumped together with all sexual immoralty.
Where Do You Stand On Homosexuality?
I'm not sure how else to classify a modern adaptation of ancient religious belief. I don't believe that modern Christianity can consider itself authentic just because it has become socially acceptable to do so. When that occurs there is a weird breakdown of faith. It's one of the reasons I can't identify myself as Christian.
This isn't about scripture, it's about logic and how you reach conclusions when it comes to faith. My original comment was how people often reach back into the Old Testament (Leviticus) while ignoring all the other perceived "nonsense" it contains. It is indicative of an underlying bias or other personal shortcoming.
Where Do You Stand On Homosexuality?
I've never called any part of Scripture nonsense. I beleive 2 Tim 3:16,17 applies to the entire Word of God.
If you are right and I am still bound by the Law then I have a serious sin issue that I need to deal with. So, I'm asking you to show me where I went wrong so I can repent and change accordingly.
I myself am anti-religion and anti-tradition. I beleive in a very personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ. (oversimplified but its the root of my faith)
Where Do You Stand On Homosexuality?
I don't want to get entirely off topic because that isn't what this thread is about. I read some of what you wrote in the Spirituality forums so there is a chance we will get to further discuss. It was not my intention to call you a sinner though, I wouldn't do that.
I'm off to burn my mother for wearing a garmet made out of two different types of cloth. AWAY!!! :D
Where Do You Stand On Homosexuality?
i have two moms. i was raised in a same-sex household and i turned out just fine. gays are people too.
Where Do You Stand On Homosexuality?
Where Do You Stand On Homosexuality?
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Originally Posted by mont974x4
Slip, animals don't have a soul, therefore no sin issue.
I apologize if you feel I am judging or Bible thumping. I just see people quoting the Bible to fit there agenda and attack Christians and the Bible. They usually misquote it and all I'm trying to do is clarify.
As to your 3 points:
1. The Bible does say we are to spread the Word. That's part of the Great Commission
2. I've already covered the judging issue...it mainly has to do with our heart and motivation.
3.Yes, we all have free will.
ok.. i've heard you christians say your soul is what animates your body, and when your body gives out, your soul leaves it where it is judged to go to heaven or hell... that being said... if animals have no souls, how are they alive? next, god created everything (according to yal) therefore he created animals, therefore if his creation (animals) can be gay, and it's not a sin, i can only ask how it's any diffrent to humans... forget that quote of humans were created in gods image... explain it this way...
humans think, eat, feel and so on
humans have genitals to procreate
humans have sex to reproduce
humans seek companionism
humans were created by god
animals think, eat, feel and so on
animals have genitals to procreate
animals have sex to reproduce
animals seek companionism
animals were created by god
in essense, animals are in no way shape or form diffrent from humans, we both as a species have alot (if not all) the same 'innards' and same body systems (skeletal, blood, nervous, and so on) the only thing that really seperates us from dogs (medically speaking, we're also seperate cuz they are pets and we're not, but ignore that part, slightest little thing in history could of changed that all) is thier bodys (shape and stuff like that) and the fact we don't know how to fully communicate with them....
animals have gay sex, they are not against god, nor sinning when they do, humans are very close to animals (with the given choices, we sure aren't closer to plants) animals were created by god, as well as humans... if god doesn't get angry with his animals for having "unnatural sex" what makes you think he gets angry at his humans for doing the same? keep in mind, i don't believe in the bible, nor follow it.. i only use it from time to time to point out how hypocritical all of you really are.... whether you wanna face it or not, the bible was written by man, therefore it's subject to being full of lies and mistakes, since no human is perfect after all....