1st closet grow - Indica - 400w HPS

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Originally Posted by indicloset

day 21 continued...

I got a couple sheets of info about the nutes I have. I dont think it is that fish poop, because it doesn't stink, it doesn't really smell like anything.

Here is a link to some info about it as well as others, its the 3rd one down - "Hydro Fuel" :

http://www.rambridge.com/products/ga...t/greenpl.html

Also, here are pics of the sheets that I got with it and a couple more of the plants.

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The pic on the far right... one of the leafs on the bottom looks exactly like mine do ..i dont think its a nut problem i think its a temp/humidity problem because my plant isnt ready for nutes and its looking like yours ..is your temp still around 85? should do sumthin to get it around the 70's maybe adding 2 fans in the duct :p ..i dunno im not a expert or anything but yeah...about the fish poop ill take a pic in awhile of what it looks like...its basicly grounded up waterd fish guts ..its called alaskin fish fert..or known as fish emulsion..plants love it, so do dogs i guess lol

My temp is steady at 80 right now. The last two pics on the bottom post on the right is just the runt, its always been like that even when the others were fine. The seed was twice as big as the others, and it took forever to sprout, it cant even hold itself up right now because the stem is so thin. Anyways, that one I'm not too concered about, I'm just interested in how its going to do, i've treated it exactly like the others. The others are showing different symptoms though. They do seem to be doing better though, and growing more since the nutes, I'm just hoping they are recovering and I'm doing everything correct now.

Alright, well a bit of progress in one of the plants, the lower leaves look kinda crispy, but the top and new growth is looking decent, more alive.

I did a bit of rearranging last night and was able to get the temp at 81-82 without the glass and thats with the thermometer directly under the light, if I put it on the far wall with the the bottom level with the plantsl, it reads about 78-80.

Now, when I move, the new closet is going to have to be sealed up for light and has to have a carbon scrubber. I will be able to make holes in the closet door. My current fan will remain the intake.

I was planning on using the fan in the link below (made by the same company as my intake fan) for the exhaust and to blow into the carbon filter :
http://fieldcontrols.com/ab-1.2.html

Now, the opposite side of the fan that you dont see in the pic is just a smaller round hole near the middle of the opposite side, lloks like it would fit a 4" duct. Does anyone know if this fan has to be installed into a duct like the instructions say? Or, what I was thinking, is to just mount the smaller 4" opening of the fan into a hole in the closet door, then attached to the ducting and carbon filter and just have the top part of the fan open on the inside of the closet...will this work?

I was having the same problem with the heat. I had my 400w in my closet with 4 plants and it was about 100deg.f. all day. I left the door open with a fan on the inside and one in the doorway blowing air in. It helped but wasnt sufficiant (oops SP). So i went to home depo and bought a "wall closet" for $150 along with some $10 ducting. I also bought a themostat for $13 from target. The average temp in there now is 80 deg. f. during the day and 70 at night. One thing i would say is invest in some floros and use them for veg if you dont have the money, time, or space to do what i did. I have a bathroom in my room with a large space under the counter, i use that space with 120watts in floros for my veg. This way i can flower and veg at the same time. happy smokin fellas

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Originally Posted by IrieInSocal

I was having the same problem with the heat. I had my 400w in my closet with 4 plants and it was about 100deg.f. all day. I left the door open with a fan on the inside and one in the doorway blowing air in. It helped but wasnt sufficiant (oops SP). So i went to home depo and bought a "wall closet" for $150 along with some $10 ducting. I also bought a themostat for $13 from target. The average temp in there now is 80 deg. f. during the day and 70 at night. One thing i would say is invest in some floros and use them for veg if you dont have the money, time, or space to do what i did. I have a bathroom in my room with a large space under the counter, i use that space with 120watts in floros for my veg. This way i can flower and veg at the same time. happy smokin fellas

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What were your leafs looking like when you had high temps?

IrieInSocal, looks nice :D . Thanks for the advice. I havn't been having an issue with the heat since I've had the cold fresh air blowing in over the top of the plants. My temp is at about 78 - 82 over the day and night with 24 hours of light. I was thinking of using a cabinet inside of a closet before, but I figured I could cut holes in the closet door and seal off the cracks easier and cheaper than building or buying a cabinet, my place now only has the one extra closet in the hallway and I was going to do it to this door, but I am moving into a new place and didnt think it was worth it to buy a new closet door. In the new place I am going to be using a bigger closet and doing the original plan with one more exhaust fan blowing through a carbon filter.

I figured I was underwatering since I have not been watering until the water starts to drain out of the holes in the bottom. I read somewhere you were supposed to do this, so I tried and the next day, they were all perked up and looking alot better.

Today, two plants started to droop, the pots were light, but the soil was still somewhat moist after an inch down (in the small pots, 6" wide x 5" deep), so I watered them again and now they have kinda revived a little. However, one of those two plants is looking like it is getting burnt from the nutes, but why just the one, wouldn't others look burnt as well? I am using the 2-part mix of Hydro Fuel for "seedlings/cuttings 200-400 ppm" (the first stage on the chart I posted above) with every watering now (says on the program, "dirt farmers use with everywatering"), its been about 3 waterings so far. Should I be using the one for week 3 since thats what I'm on? Its 1000-1400, that sounds a bit high, but the percentages of the nutrients are low on the bottle.

I was also thinking that maybe its time to transplant, I'm not sure when to though. The two bigger pots are 6" wide x 7" deep, 1 gallon pots and the other smaller ones are 6" wide x 5" deep. Should I transplant to 3 gallon pots? Or what size pots should do me through the rest of the grow?

day 24 pics...

How they lookin so far? ..Update :)

Well, the crispy one is looking crispy, except that there are secondaries growing from where the old branches are. The runt, I took out and put under fluorescents, if it lives, it lives, if it dies it dies. The other three are doing really good, still a little droopy, but much more alive now and look bigger everyday.

Actually, I think I have to transplant tomarrow. If I look up the drainage holes, there are white roots starting to become visable. I'm assuming I should transplant ASAP. I'm going to try to find some 3 gal. pots tomarrow, but I only could find 2 gallon and 5 gallon pots today (for the cheap black ones anyways), so I'm thiking I'll go with the 5 gal. Anyone think otherwise, will the plant grow too big with a 5 gal. pot?

What do I have to watch for while transplanting? Any special techniques anyone uses? Should I cut the bottom off the pot or should I take everything out of the pot?

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Originally Posted by indicloset

Well, the crispy one is looking crispy, except that there are secondaries growing from where the old branches are. The runt, I took out and put under fluorescents, if it lives, it lives, if it dies it dies. The other three are doing really good, still a little droopy, but much more alive now and look bigger everyday.

Actually, I think I have to transplant tomarrow. If I look up the drainage holes, there are white roots starting to become visable. I'm assuming I should transplant ASAP. I'm going to try to find some 3 gal. pots tomarrow, but I only could find 2 gallon and 5 gallon pots today (for the cheap black ones anyways), so I'm thiking I'll go with the 5 gal. Anyone think otherwise, will the plant grow too big with a 5 gal. pot?

What do I have to watch for while transplanting? Any special techniques anyone uses? Should I cut the bottom off the pot or should I take everything out of the pot?

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Transplanting > http://www.overgrow.com/growfaq/t7

I transplanted 3 of them last night to 3 gal. pots. Guided by Hardon's stress free transplanting FAQ, it worked out great. The plants have already perked up a bit overnight. The only things I did different was that I used Stim-Root No. 2 with .4% IBA instead of the Schultz rooting hormone and a green light so the roots didn't see any light. I read somewhere that plants cannot see the color green, so you can use a green light as the only light source to reduce stress during transplant, this way you can see, but they cannot. I hope it is the correct light, they didnt say anything specific about the green light, just that its green, so I just got the cheapest one I could find.

I am very limited in space, so I cut the bottom off the 4th plant (the crispy one), used the double potting technique that is in the above link and just used a 1 gal. pot underneath. I just cut the very bottom off only, instead of the last inch, I hope it doesn't make too much of a difference...I missed that part. Since is the worst plant, I did it like this to save space and also money on soil, I dont know if its going to live, but if it does, this pot should do me up until sexing, then I will see if its a keeper or not.

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