he has a point, breukelen...
you and your family may have never actually killed or raped any natives directly...but what have you done to stop it?
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he has a point, breukelen...
you and your family may have never actually killed or raped any natives directly...but what have you done to stop it?
Why should any1 be held accountable for what their ancestors have done? We all have skeletons in our ancestral closets. IMO, what really matters is what we do now... With that said, I do hate that this country was built on the graves of the braves (just a little playful slang for native americans, please don't take offense) that originally occupied it. Our forefathers had no right to kill, cheat and evict the native americans that lived here.
err, well, it wasn't my forefathers, but I'm sure my ancestry has its own problems.
most folk won't even acknowledge that it was even done, they say shit like it was bound to happen anyway. it is the same now in Iraq, they are only poor natives after all.
the government will have all you guys stripped naked, implanted with chips (for you own good) and your heads stuffed in a helmet before much longer anyway. so i guess it is a moot point for you to do anything about anything anyway.
I make a contribution every time I go to the casino! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
I haven't done anything to stop it, it was hundreds of years ago!Quote:
Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
My ancestors had a very good relationship with the Natives. They built schools for them, and gave them many other things. http://history.vineyard.net/hfnorton/history.htm Look for the name ??Mayhew?.
My 10th great grandfather was Thomas Mayhew, Sr. (b. England 1593), and his son Thomas Jr. (1620-1657) AKA ??Friend to the Indians?, was my 9th g grandfather. Here is a little about them, and their dealings with the Native Americans. I do not happen to be religious, but at least these people were kind and fair with the Natives. You can easily do a google search of the Mayhew family of Nantucket and find plenty of information ?? their dealings with the Native Americans made for a very advantageous, mutually beneficial, and peaceful relationship between the whites and Indians (several tribes) on Martha??s Vineyard and Nantucket. Thomas Mayhew Jr. died at sea, whilst traveling to England for the purpose of bringing back more materials and teachers. I don??t like most ??missionaries?, or religion, but these people were cut from a different cloth ?? and I??m proud to have them in my family tree. They were truly "ahead of their time".
http://www.pptkids.org/index-20050805.php
??A man named Thomas Mayhew bought the islands from the British in 1641 and later that year he sent his son, Thomas, Jr. to check out the new purchase. The next year, Thomas, Sr. came to Martha's Vineyard, settling in Edgartown and bringing with him many tools and animals to begin making a life and a community there. He also brought something else that was important--people!
Before long, Thomas Mayhew, Sr. was made the official governor of the area, under the British crown. The Mayhews were a Puritan family who were utterly devoted to Jesus Christ and serving Him in every way that they could. Along with responsibility for the well-being and governance of the island, they had a great burden for the spiritual well being of its people--all of its people
As the Mayhews began meeting and trading with the Wampanoags, they made friends with them. Young Thomas Mayhew, Jr. was the first missionary to the Indians, teaching them about God's love as well as sharing the Bible with them. At first, Thomas preached in English. In time, he realized that he should learn their language so that the stories of the Bible would have the greatest impact when the Wampanoags heard them. So, just as he had learned Greek and Hebrew at Oxford University, Thomas, Jr. now tackled the Algonquian language of the Wampanoags. He found that many more people would listen to him if he spoke in their own language. Soon he was preaching to them regularly at many of their favorite sites around the island--the great interior ponds and the cliffs of Gay Head/Aquinnah. Many came to understand the Bible and God's love for them.
Thomas' ministry was truly unique among the missionaries of his day. Many English men and women were concerned for the spiritual lives of the natives they found when they settled, and shared the Good News of God's love with them. But some required them to become like Englishmen when they accepted the English faith in God. They made them wear English clothing, live in English-style housing and adopt English manners.
Today's missionaries know that it is not necessary for people to change their culture just to love and receive God. But in Thomas Mayhew's day, many didn't believe that--except for Thomas! His approach to the Indians was remarkable. He did not require that the Indians change their habits, but rather showed respect for their customs, only asking that they not observe certain customs when the customs directly conflicted with the Bible. As a result, he quickly earned their respect, and has been remembered in history as a gracious and compassionate missionary who always treated the Indians fairly.
As a result of Thomas' kind treatment of the Wampanoags, the people of Martha's Vineyard did not experience the horrible tragedy that many other New England towns did during the Indian Wars. They experienced unity and peace and at times the white people were protected by the faithful Wampanoags?
Edgartown! :eek: :D
I support this, and would go far farther. Did we accept German or Japanese tourists during world war 2? Of course fucking not!!!!! Yet we accept arabs into this country today. We love to bomb third world countries, but the simple concept of NO FUCKING ARABS is beyond us.
i'm more concerned about military industrial complex/establishment bureaucrats in expensive suits with electronic voting machines on their sides and self appointed government 'officials' and 'lords' and 'kings' and 'gods' who gain from the 'terrorism' than i am about arabs...
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Originally Posted by Edgar
A lot of my ancestors were from Edgartown.
"Martha's Vineyard, with Chappaquiddick, No-Man's-Land, and the Elizabeth Islands comprise the County of Dukes County, which was incorporated November 1, 1668. The county was named for the Duke of York by the first governor, Thomas Mayhew, who was hoping thereby to gain royal favor. There are six towns on Martha's Vineyard. Edgartown on the east, named for Edgar, son of James II, who bore the title of Duke of Cambridge....."