"misintrupritated".
That was probably the smartest thing Kokujin X has said in this whole thread. :)
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"misintrupritated".
That was probably the smartest thing Kokujin X has said in this whole thread. :)
He's just imitating his Creationist brethren. Don't misunderestimate those Fundies' language skills.
haha good one, ertimonto
actually meant, stoker, but that's funny, ertimonto u2
i'm determined to find a question you can't answer just by writing it off with some bullshit excuse. your god is all knowing, can tell the future can change the past, can create and kill. so, with that being said, how the hell does he hold a grudge against human kind becasue two of HIS creations did something he ALREADY knew was going to happen? and we're sinners by nature becasue those 10 commandments are perfectly worded so that at some point you will sin. lets take the prime example 'do not covet your neighbor's wife (or sometimes says goods). you CANNOT help what you want, it' is a want, a desire an uncontrollable emotion 'god made us' so he made us covet, he gave us that trait. also, if god gave us freewill, why does he punish us when we exercise it, freewill is the quite the biggest oxy-moron i've heard coming from your god yet, he gave us freewill, yet he DEMANDS that we worship him, and follow his other 9 bullshit rules. if someone is demanding of something, how can they give you freewill? he doesn't try to encouage, he doesn't say 'i'm the only real god out of the religions and i want you to realize this and worship me, but i will not be angry if you worship others' (which would be true freewill) he says 'worship me or suffer forever'
and btw if it is due to 'misinterprutation' how is it true, truth is simply that, truth. if it is not correct then it is not truth. but since everyone seems to follow this god so blindly you refuse to ever listen to logic, i hope what i believe happens when you die (walk the earth in a spirit form for eternity) that i see you, so i can laugh at you for wasting all these years worshipping something that is not even there.
as to this, why would a deity that is incapable of making contact to humans be throwing natural disasters around to get people to talk to him? doesn't that just seem really retarded?Quote:
Anyway, Natural disasters are a combonation of 3 things.
1. Punishment
2. To show us the impact Sin had on creation
3. To get people to talk to God
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Originally Posted by God
"if god gave us freewill, why does he punish us when we exercise it"
I'd like to know the answer to that also. That seems like one of the most fundamental questions we should be asking. If God gave use free will, why does he punish us for exercising that free will? Well said, slipknot. :)
I wish and (gasp) pray that all fundies and creationists since they hate science so much would go live in caves without medicine and only clubs to hunt with (although even that could be argued scientific....). Since they reject science and demand we accept their whole book they should wholly reject science as well...
All I have to say is:Quote:
Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
"You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice.
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill.
I will choose a path that's clear, I will choose freewill."
-N. Peart
Kokujin, you have no ability to think for yourself and look at things critically. You're a little child, afraid to look out upon the world and realize what's REALLY there. I postes this quote by Nietzsche in another thread, but I think it bears repeating here, since it's very relevant to the current debate...
"The Four Errors.
Man has been reared by his errors: first he never saw himself other than imperfectly, second he attributed to himself imaginary qualities, third he felt himself in a false order of rank with animal and nature, fourth he continually invented new tables of values and for a time took each of them to be eternal and unconditional, so that now this, now that human drive and state took first place and was, as a consequence of this evaluation, ennobled. If one deducts the effects of these four errors, one has also deducted away humanity, humaneness and 'human dignity'."
Truer words have seldom been spoken.