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Originally Posted by Nicoli
Depending on which definition of freedom you are going by that point could be argued. Are the 'jihadists' fighting for freedom from us, yes, and perhaps the freedom to live in an oppressive and cruel Islamic Theocracy. They are not however fighting in the name of individual freedom or liberty.
Also the 'jihadists' that attacked us prior to the Iraq war or pre-Sept 11th, do you think were they also fighting for freedom? If so, freedom from what?
from what i gather, they fight for freedom rom american rule. from american opression. as ironic as that sounds. right now, if america came through canadian streets trying to impose their way on us, then fuck yeh im gonna be blastin some red white and blue ass. not because their american and i hate their freedom, but because someone is threatening my home for HIS/HER benefit.
Who's to say what's opressive and cruel? women arent viewed as having equal rights as a man? how are they wrong? how are we right? just because we let women vote and have a hand in everything doesnt make us some superior nation. we're just culturally different.
evil saddam has been deposed. and the jihadists that attacked on sep 11, 2001 WERENT FROM IRAQ. THEY WERE FROM SAUDI ARABIA. and guess what? id be willing to bet that if iraq owned about 7% of america like the saudis do, we'd be fighting evil iranian terrorists right now instead. I mean, shit. Theyre all a bunch of sandy arabs right?
I'd bet everything that if you grew up in an america where chinese fighter planes bombed your neighbourhood every week for years, and their people viewed you as some baseball playing savage, you'd travel to hong kong in a fucking second to make a stand that you wouldnt put up wit the shit any more.
Pro-Bush Demonstrators Counter Sheehan
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Originally Posted by Torog
Howdy Nicoli,
Thanx for pointing out what should be obvious to everyone..that the jihadists ain't fighting for individual fredoms like we are,they're fightin to put a brutal theocracy in place..why don't folks understand that ?
This ain't about rascism..folks presume that just because I'm from Texas and the South,that I'm reacting in a rascist way..which couldn't be farther from the truth. Playing the rascism card,is a favorite tactic of the Left..meant to discredit and discount the real problem.
Have a good one ...
Is it a leftist tactic to use common sense? because im not a lefty.
You're right, its not about racism, its about ignorance. Their culture and the way theyve been doing things for thousands of years just isnt good enough for Torog, right?
I mean, your country has been around for thousands....oops!..i mean hundred of years and has been in a perpetual state of war ever since. Name ONE time in american history it can be said that america was TRULY at peace. JUST ONE FUCKING TIME.
And somehow, SOMEHOW we're supposed to all just roll over and do what america says because you know best.
i think not, torog. starting wars in countries for oil and money is wrong. bush doesnt give a fuck about freedom or liberty for anyone except himself. Laura would be hauled to guantanamo before he'd admit his guilt.
Pro-Bush Demonstrators Counter Sheehan
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
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if by that comment you're referring to when i repeatedly stated i was only proving a point as to why mods. are basically useless, then that was pretty funny.
p.s. thanks for the welcome back in that other post!
Pro-Bush Demonstrators Counter Sheehan
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Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
Is it a leftist tactic to use common sense? because im not a lefty.
You're right, its not about racism, its about ignorance. Their culture and the way theyve been doing things for thousands of years just isnt good enough for Torog, right?
I mean, your country has been around for thousands....oops!..i mean hundred of years and has been in a perpetual state of war ever since. Name ONE time in american history it can be said that america was TRULY at peace. JUST ONE F*CKING TIME.
And somehow, SOMEHOW we're supposed to all just roll over and do what america says because you know best.
i think not, torog. starting wars in countries for oil and money is wrong. bush doesnt give a f*ck about freedom or liberty for anyone except himself. Laura would be hauled to guantanamo before he'd admit his guilt.
Liberals despise common sense..it's definitely not a leftist tactic..lol.
The 'culture' that you speak of,does not believe in individual rights and the women and children are all second-class citizens at the mercy of the males..part of the arab culture,is the practice of honor killings..do you support that ? How about clitorectomies ? Slavery and murder of infidels ? Do you really think that there's room in the world for such horrific things ?
Let me remind you..I have lived in Saudi and know much more about their culture,than you realize..I ain't operating out of ignorance.
If we were in Iraq to take the oil,we would have an over-flowing Strategic reserve and the price of gas would be lower,the oil is being sold on the open market..not being funneled directly to us. It behooves the entire world,for there to be a stable and democratic middle-east. Must I also remind you,that we didn't start this war,until after we were attacked and over 3 thousand folks lost their lives,we didn't come down on saddam and sons,until after they invaded Kuwait and ignored warnings and deadlines to leave.
Why is it,that you only hold America accountable for it's actions...and not the brutal,murderous thugs who started this whole mess ? Why is it,that you view terrorists as noble freedom fighters..when in fact,they seek to end freedom ?
Have a good one ...
Pro-Bush Demonstrators Counter Sheehan
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Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
oh torog, get a clue. you keep trying to push this weak-ass propaganda.
stop using the soldiers as your tear-wiping agenda. the soldiers fought for freedom for all during the revolutionary war. A REAL FUCKING WAR where britain threatened american independance. not some made up one for love of oil money and power.
oh and btw, you also convenently seem to have forgotten that after the british invaded, technically americans were insurgents too. swallow that yet?
if it weren t for militias, the army wouldve been overrun in no time.
american fought for their freedom and now muslim "jihadists" are fighting for theirs. whats the problem this time? whats the difference? britons thought america as uncivilised and barbaric. they tried to take shit over to liberate the people and bring them back under british rule.
the only difference i see is that most muslims must not be white enough for you.
PWNED :cool:
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Originally Posted by Torog
Liberals despise common sense..it's definitely not a leftist tactic..lol.
The 'culture' that you speak of,does not believe in individual rights and the women and children are all second-class citizens at the mercy of the males..part of the arab culture,is the practice of honor killings..do you support that ? How about clitorectomies ? Slavery and murder of infidels ? Do you really think that there's room in the world for such horrific things ?
Let me remind you..I have lived in Saudi and know much more about their culture,than you realize..I ain't operating out of ignorance.
If we were in Iraq to take the oil,we would have an over-flowing Strategic reserve and the price of gas would be lower,the oil is being sold on the open market..not being funneled directly to us. It behooves the entire world,for there to be a stable and democratic middle-east. Must I also remind you,that we didn't start this war,until after we were attacked and over 3 thousand folks lost their lives,we didn't come down on saddam and sons,until after they invaded Kuwait and ignored warnings and deadlines to leave.
Why is it,that you only hold America accountable for it's actions...and not the brutal,murderous thugs who started this whole mess ? Why is it,that you view terrorists as noble freedom fighters..when in fact,they seek to end freedom ?
Have a good one ...
GIVE ME A BREAK!
I don't suport honor killings and i don't support women being viewed as second-class. But guess what, torog. How does that mean i can go in and tell them what i want them to do? How does that justify me going to war? Did they come to us and BEG us to come to their country, or did we just assume it's what they wanted? How the fuck can you be so sure that the "american" way is so much better? It's been proven that men and women are different on so many levels, but yet we always hear some bitching from a woman about how its so unfair she didnt get a heavy lifting job over a man or complaining about why she's expected to go grocery shopping for the most part.
And you talk about clitorectomies as if there isnt a big issue of abortion right here. Alot of americans either hate or accept abortion, what are the muslim beliefs on it? Should we take their opinion and do the complete opposite because their ways are flawed?
Texas still fries motherfuckers in the electric chair. Isn't that the same thing as the murder of infidels? We just call em dead men walkin'. Are we so self-righteous and superior because we'd rather execute them in privacy so noone can see the glee in the wardens eyes when a really bad man gets it? But if the muslims have public spectacles to humiliate and ward off other potential wrong-doers, they're evil and should be forcibly converted to the american way of life, right?
Dont kid yourself thinking that just because the oil would be controlled by americans its instantaneously cheaper? YOU BELIEVED A POLITICIAN'S PROMISE!!?!? LOL. Jesus christ man, get a fucking clue! The barrels of oil has jumped up because bush and his buddies are paying for the war...the BILLIONS OF DOLLARS war..theyre paying for the fucking unbalanced treasury and money reserves because they squandered it going into the desert with no plan. When since the twenties have american-made products been one of the cheapest in the world?
Who the fuck says that the middle east needs democracy? did God tell you that during your golf game the other day? Not to sound like some commie, but why wasnt time put into planning and helping the iraqis set up their OWN system..from a distance. You know full well that saddam couldve been toppled without the invasion forces. Stop pretending the place would have gone to hell. the insurgents fight to keep americans out of their affairs, not because they love the grand and wonderful rape rooms and forced sodomy.
Every fucking day on the news i hear about how the shiites and the kurds keep pushing to pass a constitution without sunni approval. ANd as we all know, it only took the founding fathers a couple of days to draft the future of all americans :rolleyes: Sounds like the makings of civil war/genocide. if you'll remember the rwanda genocide, its a dangerous thing to repress the minority...
You mean we didnt start this war until after american intelligence "failed" miserably ;) and we were attacked by 19 SAUDI ARABIANS. Iraq had nothing to do with them. You can throw all your training camp mumbo jumbo at me but you always stop short of giving hard evidence or reasoning as to why the country HAD to be invaded immediately. It was FOR MONEY FOR OIL AND FOR POWER. AFGHANISTAN WAS WHERE BIN LADEN WAS! AFGHANISTAN WAS WHERE BUSH ORDERED TROOPS OUT OF!
After saddam invaded kuwait...or after saddam was put into power by the americans, given the gas used to kill kurds by the americans, or after the cia funded and trained al-queda?
WHy is it i hold america accountable? because america is supposed to be the exemplar! THATS WHY. Americans are so fucking round about and flip floppish its ridiculous! You want to go invade other countries because you think you have moral high-ground and youre "doing the right thing" but yet when you do something horrible you justify it by engaging in child-like tattle-tale attitudes. "I know it's bad to kidnap people and throw them in jail without evidence...but...but...Saddam did it!" Fuckin gimme a break!
Give me a fuckin break!
Who put brutal thugs into power? who supplies them with weapons! who fucking sends drug money to fund their operations! why the hell do you think afghanistan was only bombed enough to get the taliban out? i dont see any fucking dea agents stopping the heroin production. fuck you, torog! you're either blind or you dont care or youre a fucking spook agent trying to feed us propaganda to get us to enlist or collect info for the fbi.
You think the fighters dont want freedom? then why do they fight? if they didnt care about not being controlled wouldnt they just roll over and fart whe he troops came through? use your goddamn head man!
goddamn fuckin children....
Pro-Bush Demonstrators Counter Sheehan
Awesome post, nicholasstanko. Awesome fucking post.
Pro-Bush Demonstrators Counter Sheehan
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Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
if anyone needs a mod to solve their problems then theyre pussies.
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Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
OHHHHHH, BEEEEBLEBROOOOOX!!!!
Hey guys, i was just in the politics forum and guess what?
Makor1 called me a nigger!
Read the thread, "Unhealthy and Unwise" Page three.
So where are our wonderful mods now? Will there be any suspensions handed out? I wont be surprised, you guys seem to like more important shit like "demeaning grow names".
Fuck you guys. You're doing a bullshit job, and it shows.
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Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
The only reason i posted an obviously sarcastic thread like that was because i was told to do so. the last time i didnt give a fuck and did my own thing, i got banned for a week. let me repeat BANNED FOR A WEEK!.
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Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
if by that comment you're referring to when i repeatedly stated i was only proving a point as to why mods. are basically useless, then that was pretty funny.
when i repeatedly stated i was only proving a point???
Where was this?.... :confused:
So in other words, or better yet your words...YOUR A PUSSY! :D
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And then you got banned for being an asshole!
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Now come on Nich, try explaining yourself less the insults and foul language...10 to 1 odds says you can't!
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GOD YOUR EASY!!!! :D
Pro-Bush Demonstrators Counter Sheehan
Reason for posting the above.......
Nicky has been on a kick as of late stating that me and Torog must either be CIA or DEA because of our comments or beliefs. I think that with a past history that Nicky has its kind of ironic that he would have the balls to call ANYONE a narc. Pot calling the kettle black? Nicky's the only pot or kettle proven on this board!
O.K. Nick...look into the mirror and repeat...I AM THE POT, I AM THE KETTLE!
BWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
P.S. Before it can be stated otherwise, I didn't agree at all with the use of the "N" word but ol' Nicky does have a way of pissing people off...imagine that! :D
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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
Awesome post, nicholasstanko. Awesome fucking post.
thanks man. i just get upset sometimes.
