god can not exsist

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Originally Posted by Nero

How can you not believe in God? Look outside and see the world or better yet just look at your own body. How could something as complex as the human body with the brain the organs all working together so perfectly? Just look at how compicated child birth is from conception to birth. Also how could one have morals outside of the bible. The bible itself is a proven book with 1000s of years of history and not one error is found in the bible despite its many authers over a long range of years. How could live have evolved from simple matter, how could matter have evolved from nothing how did the nothing get here? To not believe a God created the universe and the life within it is simply illogical.

Im sorry I don't buy it, if someone wants to try to convince me God is real go ahead I will listen but really I don't see it happening. I wrote this post to try to get my self to see from that perspective but for me it is just a bunch of closed minded arguments.

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Are 2 of your personalities having a debate, Nero?

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Originally Posted by Nero

How can you not believe in God? Look outside and see the world or better yet just look at your own body. How could something as complex as the human body with the brain the organs all working together so perfectly? Just look at how compicated child birth is from conception to birth. Also how could one have morals outside of the bible. The bible itself is a proven book with 1000s of years of history and not one error is found in the bible despite its many authers over a long range of years. How could live have evolved from simple matter, how could matter have evolved from nothing how did the nothing get here? To not believe a God created the universe and the life within it is simply illogical.

Im sorry I don't buy it, if someone wants to try to convince me God is real go ahead I will listen but really I don't see it happening. I wrote this post to try to get my self to see from that perspective but for me it is just a bunch of closed minded arguments.

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There are a ton of errors in the bible.

http://www.infidels.org/library/mode...adictions.html

And the human body is the product of millions of years of evolution.

"Once people get hung up on theology, they've lost sanity forever. More people have been killed in the name of Jesus Christ than any other name in the history of the world." Gore Vidal

The creation of anti-matter proves that something can be made out of nothing because that is exactly what we have accomplished.
There are two types of matter.
The 1st being the obvious, everything is made of matter in our every day world.
The 2nd your anti-matter, which was believed to be out of our reach in the universe, now however has been created by scientists.

When anti-matter and matter touch in anyway, it's way way way worse then any nuclear explosion.

However this basically proves that "God" is energy, the energy that connects everything.

Well I guess it would take a lot more to explain it, however this is all I can do at the moment :)

I highly recommend everyone see What The Bleep Do We Know that hasn't already

we've harnessed anti-matter eh?.......... (source?)

God existed man simply because he wanted to see a creation flourish that had free will. A creation that could survive on its own merit, think for itself, choose to believe and worship God, or choose not to. I don't have any other explanation as to WHY God created man.

In God's eyes, humanity is perfection. We have to right to choose our lives, live them, and die at the end of them. That is why Lucifer was so angry. God loved the race of men more than He loved the angels, the ones who carried out His every order, and they had to love Him. Lucifer thought we were weak and pitiful because we weren't as powerful as angels. He wanted God to love them more, and when God didn't, he thought that God Himself was weak. That he was better than God. So he rebelled, and some angels fought with him. They were exiled into what was first referred to as the Darkness. It was just a fiery ring and when the exiled were cast into it, when they first landed, it was dark. Then the flames roiled and burst from the ground, and Lucifer, the bearer of light, became known as Satan, the Deceiver.

Now, I'm a very religious person, by my standards. Smoking marijuana has only increased my faith in God and my spirituality. I believe that any person no matter what they have done in their life can go to Heaven. All they have to do is pray and ask for God to forgive them, and truly mean it. I don't believe that people go to hell just for having a different religion, though. I think that anyone can go to heaven, if they're a good person in life. Of course, that requires me to go onto why I'm not a Christian. Christians believe that people who don't believe in Christ, go to hell. That people who do not even know the word of God, go to hell. I don't think God is that cruel. Live a good life, and you'll go to heaven.

Another big reason why I can't be called a Christian is because I don't believe in creation the way the Bible says. I believe that God created humans, but that he had us evolve from a single celled organism. That he is the one that put that one-celled amoeba into the ectoplasmic soup that, ultimately, created us.

I'm sure no one has really heard this belief, but ya know...its my believe.

By the way, the reason why NONE of ANY of your questions can be answered is because its FAITH. The word alone should say it all. You believe or you don't. Every person has their own belief, even if their belief is that they don't believe. Its faith, man. Get with it. lol

Mr.Devious

I wouldn't exactly say "harnessed" , in that it cannot yet be safely adapted for use.
They've created particals of it. Which is about all they can do at this time, considering the danger of creating large amounts. And it would need to be kept from touching any matter whatsoever, which since everything is made of matter is quite a feet to say the least.

My source is actually from a book I read, I know your not suppose to be believe everything you read but he is a very credible author and also I did some research regarding it to get more information.
The book is entitled 'Angels & Demons' by Dan Brown
It is an exceptional read it your into books at all and very enlighting. He uses alot of facts.

The people who have succeeded in this are located in Switzerland. We like to think of the US as ahead on all this type of stuff but were not. Infact I believe that the US was working on creating a machine to create Anti-Matter but the project got pulled.

The organiztion is called CERN-Conseil Europeen pour la Recherche Nucleaire
"Antimatter is the most powerful source known to man. It releases energy with 100 percent efficiency(nuclear fission is 1.5 percent efficient). Antimatter
creates no pollution or radiation, and a droplet could power New York City for a full day.
There is however one catch.
Antimatter is highly unstable, it ignites when it comes into contact with absolutely anything, even air. A single gram of antimatter contains the energy of a 20-Kiloton nuclear bomb-the size of the bomb dropped on Hiroshima."

I know this seems a little off topic of the orginal thread, but what this means for science and religion is a complete break through.

And even though CERN has created particles of it, they have developed the technology-Antiproton Decelerator-which has the capability to create antimatter in large quantities. Who knows, maybe they have already created large quantities.

Now even though this is an amazing step forward for us, it also raises the serious question of,

Will it be used solely for the good of humankind or will it fall into the wrong hands and become the most deadly weapon ever made?

Sorry if I've bored you all. I find it fascinating.

1. Evolution has the key part that creationism doesnt.....Evidence.....(please dont quote apologetic's websites as they've never used confirmed science....gee I wonder why....)

2. Weedracer you contradicted yourself several times with your proclamations of our impending punishment(while claiming you dont judge...) by a fairy tale character made up of an amalgam of every major "white" religion in history.....Fluffy white robe beard....It's not god its Zeus...No Wait It's Odin.....Oh wait wasnt Ragnarok supposed to have already happened? My bad.

Hopefully logic will pull you through that post and you'll understand what exactly in your post I was referring too. ;)

Okay guys, I'm so effing high, but I think I've got the answer... Okay... things which exist today had to have had a beginning right? matter, time, the universe. So God must have a beginning ergo a creator... BUT God created, along with matter , and the universe also created time... So before that, things wouldn't be able to be measured temporally, because time just didn't exist.

And another thing... If God is infinite, then God is infinitely old, but God is also infinitely young.
lol man i'm not sure if any of that shit makes sense.

er so i mean God wouldn't have a creator because got wouldn't have a beginning, because beginnings wouldn't exist, because time hadn't been invented yet.