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Originally Posted by copobo
no, I'm not wrong at all. The subculture of growing for patients is what this is all about, and is also why you don't get it. Funny, I know a dozen growers. none of them are or were making big bucks, and all are 100% about this movement.
Since you think these type of people are 1 in 1000, it is very clear to me why your posts are what they are, and where you are coming from.
Look at it from a different perspective.
While 1 in 1000 of you caregivers might be in it for 'the cause', 99% of the income you caregivers enjoy, comes from selling to potheads and high schoolers. Your income comes from people who smoke recreationally, not patients who need this to medicate. So in my opinion, your subculture should welcome people who are new in the industry.
Are you saying that 'patients in need of free meds' constitutes more than 1 in 100 or 1 in 1000 smokers? Seriously? In your opinion, what percentage of the people who have applied (100,000ish) have done so and are your customers, patients who 'need' this medicine to survive.
I guess I'm still used to seeing it as a medicine. My entire life it's been a drug, now it's a medicine. This is just my unique experience. I don't have hippy parents or family members with cancer, so I don't have a lot of experience in that area, it seems like you do. I'm not sure why you are judging.
SprngsCaregiver:
When you state that you are in compliance, are you talking about A20 or 1284/109? It seems like you are saying that you don't recognize this new legislation.
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blackhash, I made a thread about remaining compliant post 1284, maybe this discussion would fit better there, I don't know.
As I understand the legislation, there can be only one caregiver per residence. Caregivers can't come together for the purposes of cultivation, so I see the plant count maximum being 5 patients (30 plants) plus 5 plants for each patient in the house. The only way I see that number going up is if there is a husband/wife who are both caregivers. They came together for marriage not cultivation right? So they could each have 5 patients?
Also, I have a slight problem with you seemingly recommending that people be non-compliant. That's a strange position to take with everything you could lose. Are you growers really just ignoring the law?
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Originally Posted by cologrower420
While 1 in 1000 of you caregivers might be in it for 'the cause', 99% of the income you caregivers enjoy, comes from selling to potheads and high schoolers. Your income comes from people who smoke recreationally, not patients who need this to medicate.
Total bullshit!
I've kept my mouth shut as you've talked crap to everybody but this ignorance takes the cake.
It's obvious you just come here to start trouble.
Go play on somebody elses board.
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Originally Posted by COzigzag
Total bullshit!
I've kept my mouth shut as you've talked crap to everybody but this ignorance takes the cake.
It's obvious you just come here to start trouble.
Go play on somebody elses board.
yea, that's where I'm at with him. It seems like he just wants to argue and doesn't want to listen. I've HAD teenagers LOL.
I was once young and knew it all too.
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Originally Posted by cologrower420
While 1 in 1000 of you caregivers might be in it for 'the cause', 99% of the income you caregivers enjoy, comes from selling to potheads and high schoolers. Your income comes from people who smoke recreationally, not patients who need this to medicate. So in my opinion, your subculture should welcome people who are new in the industry.
SprngsCaregiver:
When you state that you are in compliance, are you talking about A20 or 1284/109? It seems like you are saying that you don't recognize this new legislation.
I want to respond first to the disinformation in your first statement. Most caregivers were making profit by selling wholesale to dispensaries. How can you make such a statement when you really have no idea of how things work?
Where have I ever said I dont recognize the new laws? I have said I dont think they are constitutional. I am 1284 compliant. I personally never had over 5 but I did turn 1 patient away a few months back. I'm a small time nobody out here in Colorado and thats the way I like it for now. Although even I would like to be able to help 15 patients, which would keep me well under the federal radar as far as plant count. I refuse to go over the federal limit period. Anybody growing over 98 right now, dispensary or not, I don't know what to tell you other than good luck.
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you have it wrong, 420. The 20-somethin kiddies who are using this all as an excuse to get baked are the ones flocking to "Broadsterdam" and the dispensaries. Set in one of these places for an hour and watch the parade. They are texting their friends as they sit there waiting to make a purchase while offering the menu choices/etc. via text.
Sit there for more than an hour and you may very well see the same kid come back in as I have....making yet another purchase.
Gosh..those young uns sure do medicate quickly, huh? What an amazing generation!
I actually heard one dispensary owner here in town tell a kid who had just been there an hour or so earlier "don't be late for class...see ya LATERRRRRR!!!"
i believe it is the dispensaries who are pushing the boundaries and who sell the majority of the weed to the recreactional users, either through a non-qualified patient they signed up that day for $200, or through those same purchased "patients" friends, eagerly awaiting young Jimmy John's return with "medical" bud from the local dispensary.
there's shady folks on both sides but i guarantee the dispensaries are NOT giving anyone FREE meds whatsoever
that in itself tells the tale here.
Respect goes out to those who remember what this is truly all about.
blackhash
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i guarantee the dispensaries are NOT giving anyone FREE meds whatsoever
that in itself tells the tale here.
Well, to be fair, most of the dispensaries I've been to do give some freebies, blackhash.
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Originally Posted by blackhash
there's shady folks on both sides but i guarantee the dispensaries are NOT giving anyone FREE meds whatsoever
blackhash
I know firsthand that your statement is false. To the tune of several thousand dollars worth of free meds to patients EVERY SINGLE month.
It's not always about how much moola you can rake in....
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Much respect for those dispensaries who do give away free meds.
I have not seen the practice locally. I actually inquired about donating meds to a local outlet to distribute and the guy went on and on about the great program they had set up to give away TRIM to terminal patients. Wow, don't put yerself out Mr. Dope Dealer.
I'd love to help but I don't trust these folks any farther than I can throw them so i am looking into other options.
blackhash
