Phat Jays 2nd Grow (CFL/Coco) w/pics

[quote=PhatJay]I don't have any special skills, I think it is the coco, plants love it.




Glad you like my ladies, I checked out your grow, I wish I had your lights!



I really like Coco, although I have never grown in anything else. Growing friends of mine recommended it to me, it seems so much easier than soil. I am surprised that you say you had to be careful with overwatering though, one of the benefits of coco is that it is hard to overwater, it maintains 23% air even when wet. You have to be careful at the start (I think it is to stop overfeeding rather than overwatering), but once my girls were 2 weeks old I was watering till runoff.QUOTE]


Thanks PhatJay....this is my first time with LED's and so far I'm loving them! It was a costly investment, but will pay for itself in just a few harvests. I'm saving alot on energy and not worrying all the time about heat has been a huge relief! :jointsmile:

Coco has been good to me, still working out the quirks of ph balancing. I just ordered a ph pen so that should end that problem. I just notice that with the coco you don't have to water nearly as often. I'm watering once a week with nutes and once a week with water and molasses. I think because with the LED's there is no heat sucking up the moisture. All in all it's been a great experience!

I will definately think about trying the cold ph water before the dark period. You'll have to let us know how those babies smoke! :jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by moody420

Coco has been good to me, still working out the quirks of ph balancing. I just ordered a ph pen so that should end that problem. I just notice that with the coco you don't have to water nearly as often. I'm watering once a week with nutes and once a week with water and molasses. I think because with the LED's there is no heat sucking up the moisture. All in all it's been a great experience!

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I must admit that I don't measure outgoing PH, I just make sure that what goes in is 5.8. My plants drink around 25% more water on a really hot day and pot size has an effect on watering frequency aswell, I use 10" pots and water everyday, Weezard uses larger pots and waters every 3/4 days.

your girls definately love the coco ! I think you should create a thread on growing with cfls and coco - I for one would probably convert to coco if i had an indepth schedule to follow. Share you knowledge (if ya got time) :jointsmile:

Keep it up mate

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Originally Posted by COOLWHIP

I think I am going to try Co Co next grow just have to keep it away from the dogs it will kill them if they eat it, atleast thats what I was told

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I havn't heard that, so I don't know. Coco is just ground up coconut shells, I don't see how that could kill a dog. Dogs have very strong stomach acid, they eat other dogs poop and all sorts of other nastiness.

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Originally Posted by Charbud

your girls definately love the coco ! I think you should create a thread on growing with cfls and coco - I for one would probably convert to coco if i had an indepth schedule to follow. Share you knowledge (if ya got time) :jointsmile:

Keep it up mate

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I think someone messaged the ops asking for a seperate coco thread. I have to scan in a schedule for Greenthumb, so I will scan in the schedule I am working to as well, it's really easy to follow, like painting by numbers.

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Originally Posted by PhatJay

I think someone messaged the ops asking for a seperate coco thread. I have to scan in a schedule for Greenthumb, so I will scan in the schedule I am working to as well, it's really easy to follow, like painting by numbers.

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Ill keep an eye out for it on your thread when you post it. When are you harvesting ? Whats your estimated dry weight ? :thumbsup:

...or, going to get around to doing, soon, as soon as real life stops p!ssing m3 0ff :)

I have heard that it needs some nutrients boosted, but if ya just soak the airy stuph regularly with what they need, and make sure the ph is correct, how can a plant hate that?

Looking great, mon. How many lumens are you getting off those CFLs, and from what bulbs? (forgive me for being lazy--I promise to search the thread as soon as I post this ;) )

Fabulous. REP+

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Originally Posted by Charbud

Ill keep an eye out for it on your thread when you post it. When are you harvesting ? Whats your estimated dry weight ? :thumbsup:

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I have added them to my Album, I will post them in this thread later.

I am harvesting on day 77, I'm hoping for the same as last time (130g total dry weight), but I think I may get less, the secondary buds havn't filled out as well this time. The mother these came from is from the same family as my last grow, but has poorer genetics.

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Originally Posted by CovertCarpenter

How many lumens are you getting off those CFLs, and from what bulbs?

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They are not very powerful, only 5U each and I run two of them. They are 125w CFL's made by Eco-Light.

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Originally Posted by xxMrGreenThumbx

jst a few questions u growin in soil? And did u use canna pk late? On canna guide it ses wen small fruits develope..

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I am growing in Canna Coco, it is a hydroponic medium. I started adding PK at week 5 and stopped 2 weeks before harvest. According to the schedule I am going to post up for you, this also applies to soil.

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Originally Posted by xxMrGreenThumbx

Im rong init its gna take mor dan 7 weeks u rekn? So dere anuva stage in bud developement? Wil the buds change 2 look mor lyks ur babys? Its at 6 weeks this sat.. So u fink a few mor weeks.. And lookin at thb plant all triks r cloudy.. Wt u fink?

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My plants are Sativa yours are Indica (judging by the broad leaves) Indicas mature faster than Sativas (Sativas can take up to 13 weeks depending on the strain). I think 49 days flower is too early, but thats just my opinion from looking at other grow logs, I don't recall seeing any successful log that flowered for less than 63 days. The grow shop that produces the schedules in my album don't even have a schedule with less than 9 weeks on it.

You are able to see the Trichs I think you need to make this decision based on what you see and your gut instinct.

Here is a grow schedule for you, It is produced by my local grow shop and they have a REALLY good reputation for giving good advice. I am not saying this is the best feeding schedule in the world, but if you follow it, you will get good results and you can use it as a base for experimentation.

If you are flowering for more than 9 weeks you add weeks between weeks 5 and 6. I'm not sure what you are supposed to do if you flower for less (maybe remove weeks between 5 and 6?) Not all these products are necessary to produce good results.

thank u so much 4 takin the tym out 2 scan dat. Yea its indica mate.. So it 6 weeks 2moro.. Yea i fink i giv it anuva 2 weeks? Wt wud u recomend? I go on holiday wednds day 4 2 weeks so i dno wt 2 do u fink dere b ok? I gt sum1 waterin em jst about harvest.. ? Ow ur plants doin.. And it ok 2 add ppk 4 3 weeks? I keep 2 dis guide on me nxt grow.. Thnks agen mate x

Thanks a lot Jay, appreciate you took the time to post it up for us. Also, 130g dry of 2 125w cfls ! That sure is something. My first grow i got around 8 grams per plant. Really goes to show what a good feeding schedule can do with cfls. I doubt you could achieve 130g easily with a 250 hps but with 250 cfl !!! madness. Well ye thanks for uploading it and will def give it a go next grow, one question though, which nutrients did you use out of the ones on the schedule ? Cheers