The economics of MMJ?

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Originally Posted by throatstick

really? lmao ok

this was just the top.i veg all clones 1 month with training and thats it.from seed i might go 5 weeks depends tho.you can think or believe what ya want.i have no reason to lie...i could grow alot bigger than that and it would still be just as potent as those guys saying things like"i don't grow for yeild i would rather grow for stronger meds" what a crock......you still think im full of shit go look up doubled's grows or heathrobinsons grows.just because you have never seen it or cause you don't see these kindda grows on canna.com don't mean it is'nt so..

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Yeah--I just looked this system up--very complicated--meaning also very delicate. Have tried hydro before-very unforgiving-one little mistake and the entire crop is toast. I read most of the articles Robinson has posted and not anywhere did I find that he "says" to expect 1 lb. or more in yield per plant.

I hope he is successful at this experiment. If he is--he should patten the idea and sell it.

Again--the professional indoor growers/dispensory owners-whom have been doing it for years--that I know--are happy to get 4 oz. per plant.

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Originally Posted by rightwinger

Yeah--I just looked this system up--very complicated--meaning also very delicate. Have tried hydro before-very unforgiving-one little mistake and the entire crop is toast. I read most of the articles Robinson has posted and not anywhere did I find that he "says" to expect 1 lb. or more in yield per plant.

I hope he is successful at this experiment. If he is--he should patten the idea and sell it.

Again--the professional indoor growers/dispensory owners-whom have been doing it for years--that I know--are happy to get 4 oz. per plant.

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if ya go back and read what i posted from the start it says just that.you have to dump alot of money into it to grow BIG BUT IT CAN BE DONE.show me where i ever stated it could be done in a closet with cfl's?but there is a way thats not hard and it does'nt cost the big money where you can yeild good.to say that dispensaries are professional growers is pretty funny.most don't know shit about it and the others know alittle.very few know how to grow.also colorado is chalked full of wannabes too since it is med legal everyone has flooded in thinking it's just a weed and will grow by just throwing seeds in the wind....the rest think they are professional growers cause they have a few cfls in a closet and bought the best nutes the hydro store owner told them to buy......


btw i have yet to find a real grower that would give out good growing knowledge advice due to sarcasm....if i weighed in the stalks stems bins and so on i'd have way more than a couple lbs per light......

all in all do what makes ya happy so enjoy, peace...

Here in Colorado, Texas Kid, Sky High, and True Grit are all killing it. TK is getting something like a couple of pounds per plant. Sky High looks like he's going to pull about the same amount this coming harvest. And Gritty easily pulls a lb+

In case you didn't know "DoubleDs" is a username on another forum, NOT two clones per bucket - like someone earlier said. He's up in Canada and has pulled over 4lbs per plant. The system he's put together is a little complicated and definitely not for beginners. So much can go wrong and go wrong very quickly. It's similar to Current Culture's UnderCurrent Evolution XXL 13 system, the main difference being the water flow (one is being pushed, the other is pulled). DoubleD's system is supposed to be coming on the market I think in the fall. I know several people locally who have a UC system and they have had some great harvests!

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Originally Posted by ThaiBuddhaMan

Here in Colorado, Texas Kid, Sky High, and True Grit are all killing it. TK is getting something like a couple of pounds per plant. Sky High looks like he's going to pull about the same amount this coming harvest. And Gritty easily pulls a lb+

In case you didn't know "DoubleDs" is a username on another forum, NOT two clones per bucket - like someone earlier said. He's up in Canada and has pulled over 4lbs per plant. The system he's put together is a little complicated and definitely not for beginners. So much can go wrong and go wrong very quickly. It's similar to Current Culture's UnderCurrent Evolution XXL 13 system, the main difference being the water flow (one is being pushed, the other is pulled). DoubleD's system is supposed to be coming on the market I think in the fall. I know several people locally who have a UC system and they have had some great harvests!

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LOOK--I really don't give a dam about your big fish stories. I KNOW professional growers that have been doing this for YEARS--and they tell me that a maximun of 4 ounces per plant is all anyone can expect on an indoor grow. GET OVER IT! I don't believe your B.S. and I won't until I see it for myself. I think you're spaming on this board.

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Originally Posted by rightwinger

LOOK--I really don't give a dam about your big fish stories. I KNOW professional growers that have been doing this for YEARS--and they tell me that a maximun of 4 ounces per plant is all anyone can expect on an indoor grow. GET OVER IT! I don't believe your B.S. and I won't until I see it for myself. I think you're spaming on this board.

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i can tell ya what thai just talked about is not spamming or fake.i've talked to tk b4 and seen his grows on another forum he is legit.uc and dd's system is legit too.no need to get all pissed off just because your "pro grower" told ya it's a lie.dude must not have come outta the mountains in a long time or something?

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Originally Posted by copobo

throatstick - what method are you using? dwc?

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i mixed 2 methods i built my own system.dwc x aero mix.2 weeks i.....well it's all bs tho so who cares right.....lol all i can say is i don't pull dd's or the likes there of's ## but my system is simple small does'nt cost alot and i do well enough for how simple it is.sure i could fork out the big bucks and go big but im not in a spot to do that just yet.

i started out with this never grew anything in my life b4 this and my first harvest was 30oz dry off 2 plants.the strain was crystal,it's not a known yeilder but it does ok. i think rightwinger may have what im saying mixed up? this is not soil i don't think i have ever seen this done in soil,i don't believe it can be done in soil on this time frame.


btw i grow bushes not trees or single topped plants.......

i just reread that and it came off as if i just started growing lol.not at all i ment that when i first started growing that was what i did.i never grew veggies or had a garden.i started out with this sytem and hydro.i read up on gardening for 2 nites in a row and the diffrent types of systems.but i always like to do my own thing. so i built that system and went from there. to be honest it don't matter to me if no one believes me. i know what i have done and still do.the people i gave it all to knows the truth too,they could'nt believe it. cause i never delt with pot in anyway b4 i started growing.they thought i was full of shit too cause they knew growers and saw what the norm was.well i would'nt say "growers"i mean there was a few that grew in the past and they would have to sog a room to get any weight.

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Originally Posted by rightwinger

LOOK--I really don't give a dam about your big fish stories. I KNOW professional growers that have been doing this for YEARS--and they tell me that a maximun of 4 ounces per plant is all anyone can expect on an indoor grow. GET OVER IT! I don't believe your B.S. and I won't until I see it for myself. I think you're spaming on this board.

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Hahaha! Wow really!?! I'm spamming? How so?

Just because you know people who have been doing the same thing for YEARS doesn't mean they are doing it right or that they are pushing things to the max. So much depends on strain itself. Some produce, some don't. I love Jack Herer but I can't get it to yield hardly anything but what it does is pure bliss. Now Trainwreck I can pull quite a bit, but I don't like it and I think it's a pain to grow (too much support needed). Big Bud is the same way - huge yield, but it's not for me. 4 oz/plant is pretty much average for people who just let nature take it's course. But there are people out there who push the envelope and are getting huge yields. Am I getting those yields - no but this isn't a fulltime gig for me nor I have poured a ton of money into it. Depending on what strain I'm running, I usually get a decent yield especially if it's a strain I've run before and journaled the previous grow. So often people continue to make the same mistakes over & over again because they don't take the few minutes a day to journal what they have done. I also have a few buckets that I just let nature do it's thing mostly just due to lack of time and I want to see what happens before I start to tweak anything. Personally I think that's the best thing to do when you first run a strain. Just let it grow and see what it does, that way you have a idea if any changes you make help or hurt.

And why so hostile? Why are you taking this so personal? I never said you & your friends suck at growing, just that there are individuals out there that are killin' it when it comes to huge grows! I'm in awe myself and if I hadn't seen pics and in some cases in person - I wouldn't believe it either.

Spamming - ummm pretty sure I'm not advertising fake Viagra or posting false info or posting repeatedly the same info over & over again. Maybe you're a little confused what spam is. And I'm talking about spam on an internet board, not the canned meat-like product (which I grew to love when I live in Hawaii & Guam) - just so you're clear.

Anyway, I hope you finally get some decent yields and I hope it's good medicine for you. You definitely need to relax. It's a plant that should bring you joy & pain relief. Seems to just put you in a pissy mood. I recommend maybe switching to a different strain (Jack Herer is great!) or maybe go back to taking your pysch meds. Talk to your doctor about maybe getting on Wellbutrin - I've seen it work wonders in people's personalities, maybe it'll help yours. Or if you happen to have "mood swings", ask your doc about Lamictal. While I think MMJ works great for a lot of people, and helps with a lot of conditions, it's not the end-all cure-all for everyone. Some, perhaps yourself, still need prescription meds. Good Luck! I wish you the best.

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Originally Posted by rightwinger

LOOK--I really don't give a dam about your big fish stories. I KNOW professional growers that have been doing this for YEARS--and they tell me that a maximun of 4 ounces per plant is all anyone can expect on an indoor grow. GET OVER IT! I don't believe your B.S. and I won't until I see it for myself. I think you're spaming on this board.

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4 oz on an indoor grow is pretty light. I grew quite a few 1lb. + plants last winter in my greenhouse. Are you talking about a closet grow?

Rightwinger:

I just finished a giesel plant, first time i grew it. Far from dialed, actually some phos deficiency most of the cycle. It was grown in 5 gallons of coco with a modified lucas formulas (called H3ad's formula.) No CO2.

yield was 5.5 oz.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Here is a pic from my second run of her, hoping for 3x that amount, she has a lot more space to spread out this time.... ;)


edit: oops, first pic is actually killer queen. But that plant is identical in size and grown next to the giesel that is pictured in the second and third pics. KQ yields a bit less than giesel but I still hope for 10-12 oz minimum. :D