Khalid Sheik Mohammed Gets Civilian New York Court

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Originally Posted by Dreadscale

I don't believe you will concede the point when even the material you provided clearly states the right wing appears fascist.. :)

I will concede Obama could be a greater threat to the country than George W., just on pure intelect.This being said, he could also be a greater help to the country for the same reasons.

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Originally Posted by Islandborn

Obama is a threat on intellect? Obama isnt super intelligent by any stretch of the imagination. He tries hard to make it appear as if he is though... an intelligent, cultured, person would have known not to bow lower than your host in Japan because it's a sign of weakness in Japanese culture...not that it mattered one way or another...
im just saying. Obama was portrayed as many things during the campaign...none of which he has backed up or followed through on...hence his approval now below 50%.

I think my point is that if you look around the world right now and in America....the left currently represents a socialist...welfare & handout ideology. I also firmly believe there is a growing anti-jew ideology entrenched in the American and European leftists of 2009 which will be confronted sometime in the near future. The left also seeks to control and direct peoples individual lives in any way they can.....what we eat...how much I drive....what I set my air conditioner on.... what dr. i wanna use and for what...the list goes on and on and it's pathetic. Liberals would reach into your home and mine and tell us what to do if they could...

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Islandborn if you read the quotes posted I don't believe I said Obama is a threat of any type! The point is not that Obama is super intelligent. The point is, he is smarter than the man who had photo ops reading a book upside down.
Hopefully this is just a misunderstanding and not an attempt to make a point with misquoted material. I do have to wonder about it because that is a ploy the right uses a lot to make points. (Misstating facts = FOX NEWS)
Actually since you mentioned bowing it implies it does matter to you. Since it is important to you it is important to me. :thumbsup:
Bowing (ojigi) is an important custom in Japan.
Bowing is a gesture of respect. Different bows are used for apologies and gratitude, to express different emotions, humility, sincerity, remorse, or deference, and in various traditional arts and religious ceremonies.
To preform the bow that would imply weakness you would kneel, bow forward with your forehead and hands touching the floor.
A TIP ON BOWING:
If you are new to Japan, you may find at first that you are not sure when to bow or how low or for how long. Most Japanese just appreciate that you make the effort and try but, if in doubt, bow lower and for slightly longer than the person you are meeting. You canâ??t go too far wrong with that! And when you start bowing on the phone, youâ??ll know youâ??ve got the hang of it.:thumbsup:

"....the left currently represents a socialist...welfare & handout ideology."I'm not going to argue a lot on this point!! I also see socialist...welfare policies. Socialism has always been a part of the U.S. policy. It may be more apparent now that the left is using socialism to undo the damage the fascist on the right have caused. The elitist, military based policies that have pushed this country to the brink may need a touch of socialism to undo them. I don't know. If I knew the answers I would be in D.C. not here.:)

"I also firmly believe there is a growing anti-jew ideology entrenched in the American and European leftists of 2009"
Beliefs are a wonderful thing. Beliefs are even more wonderful when they are rooted in fact.
I don't believe the Jewish community is with you on this though.
According to NJDC - President Obama received nearly 78% of the Jewish vote.
According to Institute of Global Jewish Affairs -Obama received 78% of the Jewish community's vote, the seventh highest percentage in history. The Illinois Democrat trails only Franklin Roosevelt (1936-1940-1944, 90%), John Kennedy (1960, 82%), Lyndon Johnson (1964, 90%), Hubert Humphrey (1968, 81%), Bill Clinton (1992, 80%), and Al Gore (2000, 79%) in receiving such Jewish support.[1]
If you would point me to some FACTS that indicate a Anti-Semitic ideology on the left in America, I would be glad to look at them.
Once again FACTS are nice.
The Fact is NOONE has told me what to eat, what Dr. to see. This is more of an economic thing, I drive if I have Gas, I eat steak if I can afford it. If I can afford a specialist I don't go to the Community Clinic.

"Liberals would reach into your home and mine and tell us what to do if they could..."
The only argument I have with this statement is that it is not confined to Liberals!
Both right and left seek to control us. Some use methods that are direct and some are more indirect. We can be told not to drive or the government can make it less appealing to drive. We can be told which Dr. to go see or we can have it so expensive we can't afford health care.

Both sides want to control us they just implement different tactics to get the job done.

I hope you don't tire easily of these chats. :) I love your input!!
Even though we may disagree on some of it.:computerlove1:

Photographed holding a book upside down? Really? I dunno who ur talking about but that doesnt really tell ya very much. I have a geology book you have to turn upside down to get the mapping right.

Looking at Obamas 1st year in office Id say he is far less expierienced and educated than almost all of his predessesors.....in a year he has gone from the man with the plan to an international punching bag and laughing stock

Off the top of my head Cynthia McKinney, Democrat of California comes to mind for her anti-israel and jew BS.

I thought it was financial irresponsibility and idiotic home loans for people with no jobs got us into the financial mess we are in? The proposed Obamacare bill now dwarfs the cost of the Iraq war....

Letting all those car companies fail with no bailout was the right answer to the crisis...same with the banks...do bad buisness and you fail...story over

Removing Federal guidlines keeping people from buying insurance across state lines and TORT reform is the answer...not creating ANOTHER poorly run Govt agenc..

I was saying the Democrats WANT to be able to control those things. Dr.s, what kind of cars we buy, how much electricity we use and when....control. People see that now.....thats why Obama and most importantly...CONGRESS...is in deep shit IN 2010.

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Originally Posted by Islandborn

... Off the top of my head Cynthia McKinney, Democrat of California comes to mind for her anti-israel and jew BS.
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its unfortunate (for them :jointsmile: ) if she has said anything anti-semitic.

The only thing I knew about her (before I dogpiled her. :D ) was that she had some kind of brawl with the Capital security or something.


I wasn't even aware of her work in Gaza. Pretty gutsy chick if you ask me. :smokin:



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Free Gaza Movement

Ship Dignity

On December 30, 2008, McKinney was aboard the ship Dignity as it attempted to enter the Gaza Strip, which had its coastal area declared a "closed military zone" by Israel, while on a humanitarian mission by the Free Gaza Movement from Cyprus. Aboard were physicians, medical supplies, and activists, including Caoimhe Butterly. The Israel Navy confronted the ship at night in international waters. Members of the crew claimed that the ship was rammed, gunfire was directed at the water, and the ship was forced to dock in Lebanon after taking on water[75][76]. Israel officials claimed that the collision was accidental and occurred after the ship was informed they wouldn't be allowed to enter Gaza and tried to outmaneuver the patrol boat; they decried McKinney's actions as being irresponsible and provocative for the sake of propaganda.[76][77]

Ship Spirit of Humanity

On June 30, 2009, McKinney was aboard the Greek-flagged Free Gaza Movement's ship Spirit of Humanity carrying 21 activists including Irish peace activist Mairead McGuire, medical supplies, a symbolic bag of cement, olive trees and toys, when it was seized by the Israeli Navy 18 mi (29 km) off the Gaza coast. It is unclear whether they were in international waters or in Gazan waters, which is subject to the Israeli blockade of Gaza.[78][79] Although both the Cypriot and Israeli authorities were officially informed the destination was Gaza before the vessel's departure, according to the Cypriot government the ship "was given permission by the competent Authorities of the Republic of Cyprus to sail off the port of Larnaca in Cyprus on the basis of its declaration that its intended destination was the port of Port Said in Egypt."[79]

McKinney was held at the Givon immigration detention center in Ramle, until she was released on July 5.[80] The Israeli government would have released McKinney and her fellow activists immediately had they signed deportation papers; however, McKinney at least initially refused to sign, arguing that she could not be sure of what the papers, written in Hebrew, said, and that the papers would require them to admit that they were in violation of Israel's blockade, which they deny.[81][82][83][84][85] According to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Israeli officials have noted "that Palestinian Authority and the rest of the international community had agreed to the off-shore blockade to prevent arms smuggling into Gaza."[83] The Palestinian Chronicle reports that such an agreement to the off-shore blockade never happened. "No Palestinians have agreed nor did the international community agree to a blockade of Gaza by land or Sea."[86] On June 17, 2009, a group of United Nations agencies and non-governmental organizations (NGOs) called for an end to Israel's blockade of the Gaza Strip.[87]

On July 7, 2009, McKinney was deported to the United States.[88] The Israeli government has indicated it will deliver the supplies via land.

McKinney is more stupid than brave....they shoulda shot her and sunk the boat.

Jesse Jackson also has some pretty hilarious anti-jew comments also.....Ill post some Monday when I have some time....Senator Byrd D. the former Klansman has some good stuff to..

^ sounds like they did try to sink her boat. they prolly woulda shot her, too, if they could have got away with it.

I'm not going to turn this into a whole Israel vs. Palestine thing but do you remember what was happening about that time? I remember turning on the BBC to watch the early news that day and seeing an interview with the UN personal on the ground in Gaza. He was saying telling how they had given their GPS coordinates to the Israel Defense Forces and warned them hey had brought all the children to the schools to save them from the bombing. The next day the IDF bombed the schools and scores of school children were killed and maimed. If anyone could have got a boat load of doctors to the scene to help them, I don't give a fuck who might object.

I wouldnt even know where to start with the israeli palesinian war....it was going on before I was born and will continue long after Im dead....

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Originally Posted by Islandborn

... Jesse Jackson also has some pretty hilarious anti-jew comments also.....Ill post some Monday when I have some time....Senator Byrd D. the former Klansman has some good stuff to..

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true. Jesse has some classics. :D

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Originally Posted by Islandborn

I wouldnt even know where to start with the israeli palesinian war....it was going on before I was born and will continue long after Im dead....

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:jointsmile: okay, I agree. You get the final word on that. :D