Warning to washington medical marijuana patients

The reality is Gypski feels threatened by the documented problems with joining pot clubs or co ops,and does not want to admit he or she has a conflict of interest in this discussion..

The reality is when a medical marijuana patient joins a pot club or a co op they might as well join a biker gang,or a street gang. People are selling something that is illegal to sell,and the can be subject to a rico act investigation or a WSP Organized crime investigation.

I speak of this because I want the medical marijuana patients to know what happened to me,and I don't want them to go thru what I have gone thru.I have taken a lot of flac for voicing my views on this.For the longest time Dale Rogers,and his cronies would call and hang up at early hours for telling patients about my ordeal on the DOH website.

Sarich has admitted that he is selling clones again on this thread.Selling clones is illegal.Every current member of cannacare is subject to an organized crime or Rico investigation right now.You don't think the feds monitor these websites....

The fact is people will join anyway,because they have no black market contacts, they don't care, or they don't know about Rico or the WSP Organized crime units. I didn't.

Some people need to know.Some people have kids or are in a bad position to hire a lawyer.One charge that was levied against one of the 200 people in my case was a failure to report illegal activity.This is some federal charge that was used to scare someone into copping a plea,or working for the feds in the Sarich case.(Contact Attorney Stephan Illa if you don't believe me)

No it wasn't me, the feds will have a hard time tying me to Sarich,and as far as reporting illegal activity I have documented evidence that I quit cannacare because of it.Plus the initiating agency has already admitted to a claim of retaliation,and settled out of court, so I would be hard to charge now.

My lessons are now passed on.do with them as you wish.Running a pot club or co op and don't like the message... tough.

FYI,

Jeff steinborn was caught involved with a boat full of marijuana in Oregon.A federal Judge lied for him and said he was in his chambers.Steinborn was investigated by a grand jury for helping to launder drug money.There is another case involving an airplane,so Steinborn I believe has been busted by Air, land and Sea.Doug Hiatt and Muracco run several of these marijuana websites from the offices of Steinborn and Hiatt. Sarich operates with the approval of Norml and the MPP.I have long thought and still do think that they are all in cahoots.Along with the Green Cross. All of them have been busted ,and all of them have done no time.All of them should be avoided.

We're all at risk for MJ whether recreational or medical. All you can do is educate yourself,weigh the risks and come to a decision which way you want to go.
Hopefully at some point this will al become mute when the masters of the universe at the federal level finally legalize both cannabis and hemp.

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Originally Posted by sandybarr

FYI,

Jeff steinborn was caught involved with a boat full of marijuana in Oregon.A federal Judge lied for him and said he was in his chambers.Steinborn was investigated by a grand jury for helping to launder drug money.There is another case involving an airplane,so Steinborn I believe has been busted by Air, land and Sea.Doug Hiatt and Muracco run several of these marijuana websites from the offices of Steinborn and Hiatt. Sarich operates with the approval of Norml and the MPP.I have long thought and still do think that they are all in cahoots.Along with the Green Cross. All of them have been busted ,and all of them have done no time.All of them should be avoided.

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More conspiracy theories. I guess the medical marijuana issue breeds them. I'm not welcome in Steinborn's office. I haven't had one conversation with Doug Hiatt in months...and don't intend to. Muraco is not on speaking terms with Hiatt either. I have a particularly nasty relationship with Keith Stroup, who's still in charge at NORML. I do speak with people at Green Cross from time to time over MMJ issues, but we have no other relationship, business or otherwise.

I do speak occassionally with Nathan Miller, an attorney at MPP, over common legal issues. I never speak to Rob Kampia, the head of MPP, and I've never asked for any type of grant from MPP...and never will. I don't know why I would need "approval" to "operate" from NORML or any other organization.

I have always stated, very publicly, that our organization provides clones for our patients. I believe I supplied you with your first plants. I don't remember you complaining at the time. We have also replaced the gardens of countless patients that have had their gardens destroyed by drug task forces. We've done that for free.

Is providing clones legal? Actually, the way we do it, it is. I don't care to share with everyone here (including the cops) how we can do this legally...you'll just have to trust me on that one...or not. I would much rather see the patients that can, grow their own medication. Without the availability of good genetics, how would they do that? Buy "illegal" seeds instead of "illegal clones"?

To think that we have to be completely "legal" or we shouldn't be helping patients is simply not compassionate. Not one CannaCare patient has ever been successfully prosecuted and the vast majority have never been charged. I'd say that's the best record in Washington. It hardly implies that we're "putting patients at risk"...quite the opposite. Not one of these patients has ever been charged a dime for our help. And we're "greedy"?

I currently have three broken fillings that are killing me. I wish I could afford to go to a dentist. Please don't imply that I'm some greedy criminal preying on patients. Nothing could be further from the truth. If I really was greedy, I'd simply drop out of the public eye, move out into the country and grow like crazy. Instead, I have not one single plant in flower...anywhere...and haven't for quite some time. I buy my meds like most other patients who aren't flowering a garden. Sorry to disappoint you.

For the last time...I have never been "busted". I don't know why you keep spreading that BS. The only one that thinks "the sky is falling" seem to be you. I'm sorry...I choose not to live in fear. And I certainly don't want to spread fear. I'll leave that to all the conspiracy theorists. ;)

Steve

Hi All !!! :thumbsup:

It just sickens me to see all the name dropping here!!!

I am here for help with MMJ in Washington!!!

I don't agree with everyone here but I don't list their names on the NET!!!

I am no expert on WA law but I know listing people's names can not be a good thing!!!

Are you all sucked up into some kind of CO_OP war that is ongoing?

If I don't agree with you, thats fine, I will argue my point!!
I will Not post your name for the world to see!!!

The Sky May be Falling!!
I just hope you all got my back!!!

Please don't use this forum to post names of people who may be involved in things you don't agree with!

If you got a legitimate bitch, call the DA!!!

I am here for the help I get from my piers!!
I have felt bad naming "Screen Names" I cant believe you all got the balls to name names!!!

Suck it up!!! or go to another forum!!!


In Washington we all try to help each other, try to fit in!!!

Steve,

How long have you known that Marijuana is not properly scheduled,and that Washington State is not following the schedule I test. 2 years...at least since 2007.What have you done besides talk about it..not a goddamn thing I filed it because you wouldn't.How many trips have you taken since then....

How long did you talk about writing the counties to see what plant limits they were enforcing..6 months.Who finally wrote the counties Me..What was your response when I did.You went frigin nuts.Then the responses came in and you were all over them.Off to the media you ran even threatened legal action againts Yakima..How is that going. Like I thought great advertising.

I sat in on some of the early cannacorn meetings when you were asked point blank to get the proper licenses to protect us all.I still have the thread to this day.What did you do.You mean you couldn't pay 25 bucks for a goddamn business license.WEAK very fucking weak.You and Ling should be strung by your thumbs for that.Irresponsible.Baked goods another high risk .

You posted on a blog that you had the support of the MPP and Norml to open cannacare.When I sent them both a copy of that thread (which I still have,and their responses) they denied being involved with you.When two men say they are Jesus one of them must be wrong.

You can not keep a group together period.It is just a matter of time before they see you living the life of a vacationing pharoh and want to hold the locnar for themselves.Your latest sophist promotion is to make money in Washington State and run an initiative in NEVADA.Sheer genius..I would not hold my breath.

You are not a movement head this state needs you have made thousands of dollars exposed hundreds of patients,and have not filed one meaningful lawsuit to do what you know needs to be done,but you take credit for them in the media.You could have hired Carl for One thousand,had him draw it up and file it for another grand.You mean you have not made two grand off of your high risk business ventures...Oh its always somebody elses fault or there is always a train ride to California or a plane ride to Amsterdamn.Hell I am surprised you had the time to respond to this blog.Did you come back early from your trip to nova scotia to see the total eclipse of the sun.

The fact is law enforcement came to my house with Jason Ling's authorization for me to use medical marijuana to try to get into my house.. I had no HIPPA protection period. none. Zilch.Why because you couldn't afford to spend 25 ffing bucks.That says it all.Now the old cannabiogen team is back together. Well fine.

I am going to be your biggest critic.Every day that goes by and every clinic that you run goes by and every dime you make that does not go towards what we both know is the battle that needs to be fought,I will berate you.

I have tons of public disclosure documents and filed several lawsuits all with thousands of dollars of my own money.You run a MMJ clinic sold clones,and god knows what else,have made thousands and have only vacations to show for it.

You lost another group what a surprise. what is this your 15th group.You better run along and catch another train to where the heck ever. When you say "we" you mean me.You should be suckering another group of volenteers into another USA for Steve promotion.

My goal here is to inform patients.I am letting everyone know what happened to me so they can make their own judgements.Some people if you don't tell them they won't know.

The movement heads are advertising as saviors of the MMJ patient.They are totally against the effort to reschedule marijuana on a state level.They will not push for duly authorized state county or city employees they wanted 99 plant 79 ounce limits and have the courts sort everything out.

The patients need to know the issues,and who is and who isnt a white night that is going to come running to the rescue. I ahve access to patients that have made serious claims against the people that I have mentioned.Steve knows who they are. They relied on these movement heads and ended up in a federal prison with a felony charge of growing to much medical marijuana in a state without a plant limit law.

They sat back and let us all grow into a trap.They took our money and left us with the false impression that they were there to do what is right.Conspiracy theory eh Steve.I have some emails of you berating these guys too be careful.

Steve knows very goddman well that there are specific things that should be done immediately poste haste.Everything else is a foolish waste of time.

1.CHALLENGING THE STATE SCHEDULE FOR MARIJUANA
2.An amendment to the Washington State medical marijuana law allowing growers to be licensed as duly authorized employees contracted to provide a service.

We should not have to rely on somebody that makes 740 bucks a month on SSS to be doing what is right.You wanna be a movement head fine lead the way.That stick you feel upside your head is my way of telling you that you are wasting time and hot air. You have access to the arguments you know them better than I do and have known longer than I have.

Personally I feel this thread should be closed by the mod. Too many personal attacks and comments with little facts to back them up. Names should never be used on these sites unless its to post the name of a narc or an undercover officer.

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Originally Posted by Dreadscale

Hi All !!! :thumbsup:

It just sickens me to see all the name dropping here!!!

I am here for help with MMJ in Washington!!!

I don't agree with everyone here but I don't list their names on the NET!!!

I am no expert on WA law but I know listing people's names can not be a good thing!!!

Are you all sucked up into some kind of CO_OP war that is ongoing?

If I don't agree with you, thats fine, I will argue my point!!
I will Not post your name for the world to see!!!

The Sky May be Falling!!
I just hope you all got my back!!!

Please don't use this forum to post names of people who may be involved in things you don't agree with!

If you got a legitimate bitch, call the DA!!!

I am here for the help I get from my piers!!
I have felt bad naming "Screen Names" I cant believe you all got the balls to name names!!!

Suck it up!!! or go to another forum!!!


In Washington we all try to help each other, try to fit in!!!

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Just Saying If You got Proof, call the DA!!!

If it,s hear say "PLEASE STOP"

Dread

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