Is a company really going to lower the prices of a good or service because they get a tax break?
hell no
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Is a company really going to lower the prices of a good or service because they get a tax break?
hell no
If one company doesn't, another will. It's about $$.Quote:
Originally Posted by allrollsin21
Because your argument seemed to target the working/middle class. Which the majority of the middle class are in that tax bracket, but since you insist I'll fill in the blanksQuote:
Originally Posted by allrollsin21
100K a year = $1009 under McCain and $1290 under Obama.. Divide by 52 and figure out the amount that'd be weekly on your check.
249k a year = $7800 under McCain and $12 under Obama.. This is where things start to seem off, but we are starting to delve into Business income at this point which really skews it. When people see 249k they think of individual income not realizing small business is lumped in here as well.
Feel free to scrutinize. I anticipate you will.
For the majority of the middle class it would be an extra 40 to 80 a month. The economy is not so great right now. So regardless of the tax cuts; by your logic, it won't really make sense if they got a tax cut in if they decide to go out or eat or not. Even if it did.. the extra 40/80 doesn't make a large enough difference to where there would by a pyschological effect when they look at their pay check. I fail to see the point of your argument.Quote:
Now as for people spending the money, and going out to eat. I am not talking about the tips. I am talking about the business owner making money. In the restaurant business in particular, peoples perception of the economy has as much to do with actual wealth in deciding whether they go out to eat or not.
There's not a problem except that I'm probably the only person who holds some conservative beliefs that's viewing the politics forum at this particular time; but thank you for taking time out to tell me to shut up in a round about way. Unfortunatley it won't work. :thumbsup:Quote:
"I notice your thread is particularly aimed at me yet I am the only person currently in the dialogue arguing my point."
uh yeah. your the one arguing your point and that is why i am referring to your argument. Whats the problem?
A perfect example is to look at competing gas stations at opposite sides of the road on a freeway.Quote:
Originally Posted by thcbongman
They will match each others prices as soon as the other one drops it; however if you drive further down the road and you find a gas station with no surrounding competition you'll find that they do not lower their prices when the two competing gas stations do.
It is all about the money.. and money does not have to do with increasing costs.. you can make more money by increasing the volume of which you do business.. which can happen by lowering prices.
The point of the argument was that in knowing they were paying less taxes they may spend more money. Thats all. As far as the state of the economy, yes this will prevent people from spending more money on non necessities. Things are looking grim. Fact is a lot of business will close their doors. As they should. we have grown too fast and there is too much credit, and most folks have some debts. So the fact that people are going to be spending less money that they don't even have is not always a bad thing. And business' will suffer and Darwinism will prevail.
"but thank you for taking time out to tell me to shut up in a round about way. Unfortunatley it won't work. "
please dont try and explain how i tried to tell you to "shut up". Ridiculous. Overly defensive. I was asking for explanations, and making them. Instead of agreeing to disagree you seem to take the route of confrontation instead. Remember these are ideas we are discussing not each other. Its not personal. I respect the fact that you are one of the few proud folks hanging onto the sinking ship, but lets not get personal.
is it ridiculous?Quote:
Originally Posted by allrollsin21
uh yeah. your the one arguing your point and that is why i am referring to your argument. Whats the problem?
Your statement insinuated that since I'm the only one arguing from my point of view that it was irrelevant/moot. You're the one that took it personally.
And I am debating with you.. you keep bringing up points and I counter them. There is nothing wrong with that; and saying I should agree to disagree when you insist that you're right would require me to concede. Which would not be a negative thing if there were other people participating in this thread that was from the conservative base; however if I conceded then everyone posting in the thread would be patting each other on the back because you share the point of view of the political left; which again is not a bad thing provided you have another person providing contrast to your view.
What's the point in carrying on a conversation where there is no diversity in opinion. Or perhaps that's what you want?
Who knows.. I certainly don't know what you or anyone here wants. I'm just participating in a thread.
ps: thanks for the positive rep.
:hippy:
In the case of distributive justive, inequality is justified when it benefits the least well off, thus the 95%.
Your statement insinuated that since I'm the only one arguing from my point of view that it was irrelevant/moot. You're the one that took it personally.
Honestly i have no idea what you are referring to. I am a plain speaker and was not insinuating anything. How could the number of people arguing a certain point having any bearing on it's validity? I can only assume that i have been misunderstood. Whether this is due to my lack of concise explanations, or a certain prevailing defensiveness in the political forum, i do not know.
I actually already stated that i respect your ability to share your opinions. What i dont respect is when you turn personal and question people's validity based on post count numbers and what forums the posts are in.
Anyway this is a touchy time to be on these forums and as my words are being misrepresented i am going to go and continue to learn how to grow the herb in the hopes that i can produce medicine up to the standards of which i enjoy.
I hate to drop out now that we are getting into the "you made it personal," "No YOU made it personal" portion of our debate, but I've got a camping trip to get to. See you all next week!
oh boy.. whatever floats your boat. I could personally care less. It seems like no matter how I word it to express why I'm in this thread you will construe it to be a personal attack. Fine by me.Quote:
Originally Posted by allrollsin21
Have a good day.